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Old 10-04-2018, 6:25 PM
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Heard this was the best, what do you think?
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I guess that depends on your requirements.

I prefer a handheld HAM radio with AM/FM & NOAA channells, an LED flashlight, and a solar charger. There are many options for each, it depends on your specific desires and price range.
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Does anyone actually use those hand cranks?

I have a couple of Kaito Voyager radios kicking around, but strictly for background listening, and then only if there are no working cars nearby... for hiking or otherwise bugging out, I'd also go with a multiband HT and a solar panel charger.

Lots of choices for lighting. Doesn't need to be attached to your radio. I have six lights (regular flashlight x2, tacticalish penlite, clip-on LED, headlamp, D-cell strobe / area light) plus cyalumes in my first responder bag...
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Having an emergency am/fm/noaa radio has value if you don't have anything now.

Most of these radios are cheap ChiCom crap. Not robust for hard use and they're still expensive for what they are. I have an old Eton tho. Paid $30 for it and it's basically a kitchen radio. Always plugged in and charging.

Charging a smart phone from NO BOOT batt condition to bootable will give you carpal tunnel. Topping off a phone? Maybe, but you'll burn lots of calories doing it and still get you carpal tunnel. Like reeling in a 12oz. bass on 1k yards of Spiderwire.

There are better long term solutions the others guys have already mentioned above.
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"When the battery stops charging, can you replace it?" is always the questionI ask myself...

$45 for an item that only supplies 800mah juice seems pretty steep to me... When my phone is 3200mah.

If you could drop in new 18650's or something, I'd pay 1/2 that price for it... As a mid-grade 18650 hold about 2400mah...
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Yep at that price a Baofeng UV5R and AAA battery holder pack is a way better deal for a few more dollars.


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I like this one: https://smile.amazon.com/Midland-Eme.../dp/B015QIC1PW

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I like this one: https://smile.amazon.com/Midland-Eme.../dp/B015QIC1PW

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Boafeng UV5R has all that minus the handcrank.
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I'd get this.

https://www.amazon.com/American-Emer...CJL&ref=plSrch
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One thing I like about the Midland is that it uses a standard 18650 LiON cell to store power. I also like the brand for historic reasons but of course this radio is Chinese.
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Yep at that price a Baofeng UV5R and AAA battery holder pack is a way better deal for a few more dollars.


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This right here.

If something local going on like power outages/fire/natural disaster...you can bet your bottom dollar local hams will be on with the 411.

Just the other day we had a power surge and everything flickered. I turned on the old 5r and sure enough, the 2m repeater started relaying it was on battery power. Few seconds later, the usual hams came on saying they were without power. With their conversation and with one of the hams being car mobile, we could estimate what part of the city went dark and could plan to avoid that part of town for shopping.

Another example is during a big fire a few years back, with the same 5r, we could monitor the primary fire channels coming out of the Onxy Peak repeater. We could hear real time vehicle logisitics, firefighter personnel medical emergencies, firefighter vehicle breakdowns, fire containment and more. Way better than the local radio stations.
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Does anyone actually use those hand cranks?

I have a couple of Kaito Voyager radios kicking around, but strictly for background listening, and then only if there are no working cars nearby... for hiking or otherwise bugging out, I'd also go with a multiband HT and a solar panel charger.

Lots of choices for lighting. Doesn't need to be attached to your radio. I have six lights (regular flashlight x2, tacticalish penlite, clip-on LED, headlamp, D-cell strobe / area light) plus cyalumes in my first responder bag...
I have a Kato Voyager too and yes I've used the hand crank several times. I think its a great radio for emergencies to have in your house or vehicle. Lots of features...shortwave and NOAA (in addition to AM/FM), solar, USB, emergency light, etc. It picks up stations very clear in my experience. I always keep it handy.

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The guys recommending the HAM Radio NOAA AM/FM combo are correct.

We had a blackout here and the NOAA band was worthless wished I had a HAM that night.
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The guys recommending the HAM Radio NOAA AM/FM combo are correct.

We had a blackout here and the NOAA band was worthless wished I had a HAM that night.
I wonder if a wind turbine feeding a battery with an inverter powering a internet modem, router, & laptop would be a worth while investment? I have cable internet, I believe it would still function in a localized power outage.
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I wonder if a wind turbine feeding a battery with an inverter powering a internet modem, router, & laptop would be a worth while investment? I have cable internet, I believe it would still function in a localized power outage.

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I wonder if a wind turbine feeding a battery with an inverter powering a internet modem, router, & laptop would be a worth while investment? I have cable internet, I believe it would still function in a localized power outage.


My router and modem, switches, and backup drives are connected to a APS BackUps uninterruptible supply battery. I still lose cable internet every time. I think it depends a lot on local infrastructure, we must have a switch node nearby that goes down.


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Yep at that price a Baofeng UV5R and AAA battery holder pack is a way better deal for a few more dollars.


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Combining multi functions into one package sucks and is full of compromises.

Get a quality radio. Only a radio.

Get your light from Fenix with rechargeable batteries. Make sure one of your lights is a headlamp. A light is of limited use when you can't use both hands for whatever task you're trying to do. This one from Fenix is AWESOME and I use it frequently. It's hands down the very best headlamp I've ever encountered. Buy the 3500mAh batteries. Three....one in the lamp, two as standby spares and for charging.

https://www.fenixlighting.com/produc...able-headlamp/

If you're not using it at full power, it lasts an incredibly long time on one battery.

Make sure you have some solar means sufficient to charge the batteries in a reasonable amount of time.
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Get your light from Fenix with rechargeable batteries. Make sure one of your lights is a headlamp. A light is of limited use when you can't use both hands for whatever task you're trying to do. This one from Fenix is AWESOME and I use it frequently. It's hands down the very best headlamp I've ever encountered. Buy the 3500mAh batteries. Three....one in the lamp, two as standby spares and for charging.
I'm sure a lot of people will argue with me on this, but I have one good quality headlamp, one good "tactical" flashlight, and 2 Maglights - other than that they are all Harbor Freight LED free gifts. They are not perfect, but they shine a lot of light for a short distance, and I have them everywhere, I can't imagine a scenario where I could not lay my hand on 2 almost immediately. Get as many of these as you can!
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The FCC just banned Baofeng UV5R radios.


Tripper is correct, they did not. You are probably thinking about the recent rules change that prevents a radio marketed as FRS from also including any GMRS or removable antenna capabilities. They cannot be combo FRS /GMRS anymore. The UV5R is not marketed nor is it actually authorized for either FRS or GMRS although it is capable of it.


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No they didn’t
Yeah you are right. FCC didn't ban them. They have never authorized their use. What I was thinking of was the FCC citing the manufacturer.

https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-18-801A1.pdf
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I'm sure a lot of people will argue with me on this, but I have one good quality headlamp, one good "tactical" flashlight, and 2 Maglights - other than that they are all Harbor Freight LED free gifts. They are not perfect, but they shine a lot of light for a short distance, and I have them everywhere, I can't imagine a scenario where I could not lay my hand on 2 almost immediately. Get as many of these as you can!
I agree with having lots of flashlights around the house. I have more than a dozen. But I won't use an el cheap light. If I need a light fast for some emergency, I want it to be a good one. I use these which are top notch but don't break the bank.

https://www.amazon.com/TerraLUX-TLF-...s=TerraLux+300

They can be found cheaper.
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I agree with having lots of flashlights around the house. I have more than a dozen. But I won't use an el cheap light. If I need a light fast for some emergency, I want it to be a good one. I use these which are top notch but don't break the bank.

https://www.amazon.com/TerraLUX-TLF-...s=TerraLux+300

They can be found cheaper.
You have more than a dozen $40 flashlights? That's over $500 in flashlights! I have easily twice that number and they were all free. In 5 years of gathering them and using them I have never had one not work if the batteries were good - that includes the one I ran over with my truck and the one that fell off my moving motorcycle. The main factor in a flashlight working is fully charged batteries.

As I said, I do have a high quality headlight, a mag light in each vehicle, and one good quality tactical light - but most of the time I use the Harbor Freight freebie, and it has never failed me.
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I bought them all about 27 each. The price fluctuates. I also bought them over a period of a few years. And they're really worth it. The beam pattern is superb, battery life is excellent, and they really put out 300 lumens. I would bet money they're way better than a freebie from HF.
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I bought them all about 27 each. The price fluctuates. I also bought them over a period of a few years. And they're really worth it. The beam pattern is superb, battery life is excellent, and they really put out 300 lumens. I would bet money they're way better than a freebie from HF.
TerraLux lights are great. I have several of the AAA versions of your light. I have no idea how many lights I have but it numbers in the 100s. I've even got my Mother in law carrying a good light with her all the time. The HF lights are ok but only worth a little more then you paid for them. The biggest problem with cheap lights (including Costco lights) is they are battery hogs. They will drain the batteries even when off and that can cause the batteries to leak faster than normal.
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I bought them all about 27 each. The price fluctuates. I also bought them over a period of a few years. And they're really worth it. The beam pattern is superb, battery life is excellent, and they really put out 300 lumens. I would bet money they're way better than a freebie from HF.
I have a few 3xAAA battery lights, and all my 18650 lights also run off of 3xAAA bats too.
I only buy what's listed as Crees from China, which might be factory-rejects, or even knock-offs, but at <$4 a pop, they are zoomable, and I can get... ~6.7669+ of them for the same price you drop for one, and consider them disposable if they die (not one dead yet).
These are similar to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUNcXoNlESc

I tried a few, and the ones with the zoom ring work okay, but really like the ones with the whole zoom-cap that extends for the zoom, like these:

eBay search terms from China are "Cree T6 zoom tactical", and maybe a "XM-L" (no quotes used in the search), and throw a Q5 or T6 in there, for testing your search results.

The "Q5" (3-bands of LED in the "castle" while focused, as I recall) is typically in smaller flashlights with less light, and the "T6" (5-bands off the top of my head) cover more area and are brighter.

I don't care about the 5-modes, and find it pretty annoying, so I usually grab the 3-mode, Hi-Low-Strobe, as I do not need an SOS feature, or the 5th mode (Medium, or is it real-low?).
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