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Old 09-14-2021, 10:27 PM
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Question Sig Sauer to stop making metal pistols?

Rumor only- No more metal pistols and its polymer only in the future.

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Old 09-14-2021, 10:33 PM
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I just bought a Sig 320 AGX Classic with a metal frame.
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Old 09-15-2021, 10:04 AM
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I havenít seen anything specifically about that but it wouldnít surprise me if they scaled down production of their ďclassicĒ pistols, maybe just doing a special release here & there since the polymer guns are the hot sellers these days. But then, what about the whole 1911 line?
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Rumor only- No more metal pistols and its polymer only in the future.

Anyone else hear this?

If this happens, count me out as a Sig customer. I have enough polymer Glocks and HKs. The loss of the P series guns would be a real shame


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Product production costs would be a factor.
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Old 09-15-2021, 11:47 AM
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My SP2022 9mm shoots lights-out with the Hornady 115gr. Critical Defense load, to be honest, I was kinda surprised at the out-of-the-box accuracy and problem free feeding with every load I've put through it.
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Old 09-15-2021, 11:51 AM
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Iíve read that they have decreased their production numbers of p22X guns in favor of their polymer striker fired guns, but completely stopping production? That would really be awful for those of us in California subject to the roster.
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Old 09-15-2021, 12:45 PM
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That would really be awful for those of us in California subject to the roster.
If all manufacturers stop producing the old guns still on the roster it will be a forcing function to take on the roster, as it has nothing to do with "safe" guns.

Same goes for the exceptions on it for certain individuals, etc, etc.


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Old 09-15-2021, 12:52 PM
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highly unlikely, unless it is for emergency war production
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If all manufacturers stop producing the old guns still on the roster it will be a forcing function to take on the roster, as it has nothing to do with "safe" guns.

Same goes for the exceptions on it for certain individuals, etc, etc.


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Maybe, but we would have to lose nearly all the handguns on the roster before that would happen. Weíve already had guns fall off, and thereís been nothing close to success in getting the roster rules repealed.

Iíve been waiting to get a p226 MK25, but I would probably get it sooner if Sig really is planning to discontinue making them.
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probably just keeping the popular p-series so that they can focus more on p3xx, that where is the money is i'd think?
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As long they making money of those pistols. I Highly doubt they will stop making them.
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I've got P238 HD and P938 both shoot better than my P365.
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It wouldn't be the first time that SIG has kept guns in production just for the CA market...SIG 220ST
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Rumor only- No more metal pistols and its polymer only in the future.

Anyone else hear this?
These days "its a rumor" doesn't cut it. Source and paper trail...
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Old 09-16-2021, 1:24 AM
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Rumor only- No more metal pistols and its polymer only in the future.

Anyone else hear this?
Goes counter to recent news that Sig has added p229 Elite to production.

What is true is the 40 and 357 have been cut out of manufacturing.
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Old 09-16-2021, 9:26 AM
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Why did they start using plastic tiggers and mainspring housings? Are the guide rods plastic?
If it's steel, why not all steel? That's what people want
Cost difference would be insignificant.
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It wouldn't be the first time that SIG has kept guns in production just for the CA market...SIG 220ST

And the SP2022.
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Why did they start using plastic tiggers and mainspring housings? Are the guide rods plastic?
If it's steel, why not all steel? That's what people want
Cost difference would be insignificant.
Recycled Plastic. Dont want to burn coal to smelt the iron ore because that is bad.
Its all the Zero Carbon mandates that are kicking in.
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I don't know if that rumor is true but these type of rumors are like New Coke... it will make people buy more metal Sig products because they think they won't have any in the future or they might buy them thinking they'll be solid investments for resale in the future because they won't be available so this type of rumor only benefits Sig Sauer.

Even if that rumor is true Sig Sauer would go back to making metal pistols if there was a huge demand in the future, like a military contract or enough people wanted them.

I'll also mentioned that if Sig Sauer stopped making Metal products / pistols or whatever there are plenty of other manufacturers, in Europe, like in Turkey, that will gladly copy / clone / reproduce very similar pistols made completely out of metal if that's what the market demands.

They won't have that fancy Sig Sauer brand name stamped on the side but with today's computer-controlled Manufacturing they will be close enough for the lower price they would be being sold at.
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Old 09-16-2021, 9:54 AM
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I don't know if that rumor is true but these type of rumors are like New Coke... it will make people buy more metal Sig products because they think they won't have any in the future or they might buy them thinking they'll be solid investments for resale in the future because they won't be available so this type of rumor only benefits Sig Sauer.

Even if that rumor is true Sig Sauer would go back to making metal pistols if there was a huge demand in the future, like a military contract or enough people wanted them.

I'll also mentioned that if Sig Sauer stopped making Metal products / pistols or whatever there are plenty of other manufacturers, in Europe, like in Turkey, that will gladly copy / clone / reproduce very similar pistols made completely out of metal if that's what the market demands.

They won't have that fancy Sig Sauer brand name stamped on the side but with today's computer-controlled Manufacturing they will be close enough for the lower price they would be being sold at.
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Old 09-16-2021, 10:14 AM
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No way. The P226/229 are mainstays of DA/SA class pistols. Baretta too. Hard to imagine.
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Old 09-16-2021, 10:16 AM
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Recycled Plastic. Dont want to burn coal to smelt the iron ore because that is bad.
Its all the Zero Carbon mandates that are kicking in.

I would be surprised if it is zero carbon related. Production of plastic items
also comes with a carbon toeprint.
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I've been hearing that rumor on an annual basis, and while they might reduce production or remove certain models that don't sell well off the production catalog, their aluminum framed models aren't going away anytime soon.

To my recollection the major ones that got pulled out of their catalog in recent years was:

Sig P239- Couldn't compete with newer single-stack subcompacts like the M&P Shield, and got effectively replaced by the P365 line.

Sig P225A1- Wasn't competitive and sales were lackluster due to their not being a large market for single-stack subcompacts with metal frames/hammer fired. Also was a logistical move since the 225A1 was build off the 239 frames.

.40 S&W/.357 Sig pistols- they cut out most of their .40 S&W/.357 Sig lineup because they don't sell anywhere near as well as their 9mm models. That and it's kind of hard to compete at a competitive price point when police departments have their police trade in Sig .40's/.357's that sell for half the price of a new pistol.

On the flip side, the P210 and P320 AXG models have proven to be more successful than expected, so it's far from a "polymer is the only option going forward" scenario many people make it out to be.

I can see Sig maybe trimming their catalog down to fewer models to streamline production, and drop off certain lineups if their popularity drops dramatically, but I honestly doubt the likes of the P220/P226/P229 are going away anytime soon.
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Old 09-16-2021, 2:11 PM
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Didnít they just add new RXP slides for p226 and p229 9mm models this year as well? I canít imagine they would do that, then discontinue them.
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I donít care, I have my P 226 & beloved P220. I can honestly say, if I ever buy a poly pistol, it would only be as a carry gun. Havenít bought one yet.
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