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Old 10-09-2018, 9:53 PM
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Question I was suppose to get my handgun today on the 9th but I bought it on the

24th or the 25th it was delayed I think because I dont remember if I put my social also I did not put my middle name how long does the delay last what can I do
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I don't EVER put my social unless 100% necessary
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I’ve never put my SSN. Something is wrong.
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SSN is optional. Shouldn't have any effect.

Have you bought a gun recently? I ask, because if you have and there wasn't a delay, I'd be curious what is different now

Is it a PPT transaction?

Honestly, your FFL should be able to give you a little bit more info on how to handle a delay.

Some more info from CA DOJ:
https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/dlrfaqs

How will I be notified regarding DROS denials and delays?

If DOJ determines that a purchaser is ineligible to possess a firearm, the dealer will be notified not to deliver the firearm electronically via the DROS Entry System, via telephone, and a letter via U.S. Mail.

The same process is used to notify dealers when a DROS has been placed on delay.

(Pen. Code, § 28220)

Does a DROS background check expire?

Yes. If a purchaser does not take physical possession of the firearm within 30 days of submission of the DROS information, the dealer must cancel the DROS via the DROS Entry System. If the purchaser still wants the firearm, the dealer must submit a new DROS including fees.

(Pen. Code, § 26835)

If a purchase transaction is delayed by DOJ, how does it affect the delivery within 30-days restriction?

The 30-day delivery restriction begins upon notification from DOJ that the delay has been lifted and that the dealer is authorized to deliver the firearm within 30-days of the notification date. The firearms dealer must retain all notifications and correspondence.
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Have you had any legal problems in your past?
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Have you ever been in jail? Or held in a mental institution? Or used a fake id to buy a gun?
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That’s is such a vague question....could be so many things. Did you ask you FFL if they had an info?


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Wait for letter from the DOJ or a call from the FFL. All you can do at this point.
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Helpful posts, on point for the problem in the OP, are what we provide in How CA Laws Apply to/Affect Me.
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No legal problems very clean record and this was my 1st purchase I dont know if I ever put my middle name on the ffl application and the letter from the doj said it was delayed but they delayed it before I passed my live scans so what can i do
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Live scan for what? Your middle name on a 4473 makes little to no difference as that is not the paperwork for the state. I believe that is all online and the dealer swipes your DL/ID card to input your info, at least mine does.
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I did the fourm at the gun store live scan for my ccw and I do have a middle name but I dont know if I put it also me and my dad share the same 1st name
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I did the fourm at the gun store live scan for my ccw and I do have a middle name but I dont know if I put it also me and my dad share the same 1st name
OK back the bus up. Do you know what a Live Scan is? I've been in quite a few gun shops and have yet to see one with a Live Scan system. Live Scan is a finger printing system, when people here refer to a Live Scan, it generally means they have had their finger prints taken and sent electronically to the FBI and DOJ for a criminal records check.

DOJ does a computerized records check with your name, and DOB when you purchase a firearm.
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Yes I know I got the delay letter on Oct 1st the live scan did bot pass till Oct 5th do you think that is why it was delayed and this was my 1st purchase and how long is the delay last
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Yes I know I got the delay letter on Oct 1st the live scan did bot pass till Oct 5th do you think that is why it was delayed and this was my 1st purchase and how long is the delay last
The Livescan for CCW has nothing to do with your delay.
Delays are not uncommon, but I'm surprised you got a letter. Normally, they only send letters on denials.
If the delay goes 30 days and goes "undetermined", then the FFL may legally release the gun, but many won't. Check with yours to see what their policy is.
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Yes I know I got the delay letter on Oct 1st the live scan did bot pass till Oct 5th do you think that is why it was delayed and this was my 1st purchase and how long is the delay last
I don't like to do this, but many of your posts descend into near incoherence.

Please take a bit more time, and try paragraphs and complete sentences.

For example, what I quoted above would be much better as
Yes I know; I got the delay letter on Oct 1st.

the live scan did not pass till Oct 5th.

do you think that (some noun or phrase that explains what you mean by "that" here) is why it was delayed?

this was my 1st purchase; how long is the delay?
(and, the answer to 'how long' is 'however long it takes' - no rules.)
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Does Brady rule of law not apply .??? 3 business days
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Does Brady rule of law not apply .??? 3 business days
If your "delay" goes to "Denied", the DOJ will send you a letter explaining why.
Legally, Brady requires a request for the information.
Since the delay is not (yet) a denial, there is nothing to request... the DOJ is simply backlogged and delays are not uncommon.
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It is just very weird because I have a very clean record
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The delay has nothing to do with your record.
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What do you think the reason is then
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What do you think the reason is then
Read post 19, last sentence.

Also, if your real name is very common, they have to make sure you are not the criminal with the same name.
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Is there a number to call the doj
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Is there a number to call the doj
Check the letter DOJ sent. Look for their contact info.
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Is there a number to call the doj
Don't waste your time. They will not tell you anything over the phone. Even if you get through to an actual person.
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Don't waste your time. They will not tell you anything over the phone. Even if you get through to an actual person.
What do you suggest to do
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What do you suggest to do
The same thing everyone else has said, wait it out. There isn't a lot you can do other than be patient at this point.
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I hope I put my social cause I dont know if I put my middle name
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I hope I put my social cause I dont know if I put my middle name
Did you do a LiveScan CCW gun store middle name missing first name same as father check?
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How's your father's record, since you said you share a name with him?
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My father has high security clearance and works for the military
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Macbeth06, you already have all the collected wisdom we have about the problem, so closed. That means do not start another thread on your delay.

Also, it’s closed because of the persistent inability of some members to stay on topic for this forum. Here, we try to offer practical advice to obey the labyrinth of CA gun laws.
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