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Executive Orders
Just read this article
https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-hou...180754699.html My understanding is that executive orders are not laws and hat laws have to be passed by congress and then signed by the P. So basically Biden signing some gun control Executive orders don't really amount to much. I am no expert and maybe I am wrong .
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Depending on what they are, they amount. If Biden said all imports are banned, say goodbye to any guns not made in the US. Glocks made in Austria? Hk Germany. Depending on what he actually did, it could be very bad. However, if Obama didn’t go that far after Sandy Hook, I doubt he would. He actually hasn’t done much. At the press conference yesterday, I think of the hour he spoke, MAYBE if you add in all the time he spoke about guns it would have equaled 4-5 minutes before be pivoted to other things that had nothing to do with guns.
He campaigned that “day 1” he would enact EO on guns, were on day 60 something and nothing at all. That’s why so many gun groups are ticked off at him. |
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Private citizen's are not subject to the President's orders. But the President can still do a lot of damage via Executive Order. They can be used to withhold government services, and to interpret existing laws to the detriment of particular groups.
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When it comes to having "much the same power" and "can have the same effect," such expressions allude to the idea of who voluntarily/involuntarily follows the order, what the 'interpretation' of the order is in the context of implementation, how much time is involved in legal challenges, and what the result of those challenge(s) is/are. Again, as we are seeing with the bump stock ban, the Courts are not 'helping us' in terms of negating the order and the Legislature doesn't appear interested in going down the rabbit hole of Executive vs. Legislative authority/power over 'bump stocks.' Likewise, this is part of why you see much debate regarding sanctuary cities/counties/states, the power of sheriffs and who they 'answer' to, and a number of other issues. It becomes an issue of enforcement and the leverage a President, via the Executive Branch, has to 'compel' enforcement; which, I believe, is a big part of what the previous posters were getting at. Last edited by TrappedinCalifornia; 03-26-2021 at 7:13 PM.. |
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