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Offhand advice
I'm getting back into rifle marksmanship after several years away from the sport, and it's giving me the opportunity to approach it from new perspectives. I've always preferred the offhand, or standing, position and I've recently gained new appreciation for basics like sight picture, stock weld, and front sight focus. One thing I've discovered on my own is that a good athletic posture - the boxers' stance - balancing on the balls of the feet with the knees slightly bent, helps to absorb much of the heart beat vibration compared to a traditional posture where the body is firmly planted on the ground.
Do you have any techniques to recommend that have especially improved your offhand shooting? Last edited by IronsightsRifleman; 08-05-2020 at 10:48 PM.. |
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https://www.sunnyvalegunclub.com/activities/silhouette I try to thrust my hip out toward the target, push my support arm elbow firmly against my chest, weight down so the it pushes to my hips, forearm straight up to support the rifle. When I do it I do kinda get a weird bend with back arched and weight in back leg. Then I try to get into a slow rhythmic sweep over the target and time to break my shot. Have been experimenting with legs - slightly bent, locked, weight distribution, etc. still trying to figure this out! |
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good marksmanship starts at your feet
but yea, learn to use your sling to lock it up
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The "classic" target stance gives the best support since you use bone structure from the elbow against the chest, hips and legs locked. I will use a variation of my High Power stance if shooting Practical Rifle or run-and-gun type matches. The "boxer's stance" requires muscles to do all the support thus inducing wobble, pulse, and fatigue to impact your accuracy.
CMP website has some good tips for standing: http://www.odcmp.org/1007/default.as...USAMU_STANDING Caliber also influences standing technique. 308 requires more shoulder engagement/higher arm than a 223. Here the bullet has already left the barrel and I'm maintaining follow-through. |
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For hunting, I prefer off hand with a tripod rest for support. In a pinch, a monopod or bipod rest will help too.
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There are optimal stances and techniques that are different between different sports. Accuracy competition is quite different from action competition. You should be familiar with different techniques and when to use which one.
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A few tips I use: Find your ‘natural aim point’ using your feet position to adjust. Take your offhand position sighted on the target, close your eyes and hold position for a few seconds, open your eyes and see where the sights are, adjust your front foot left to right to bring WINDAGE adjustment back to the bullseye, adjust front foot front to back to adjust for ELEVATION, close eyes and open repeating foot adjustments as needed. Develop a routine for each shot, I shoot an M1A in Highpower and slightly readjust the butt to shoulder fit after almost every shot starting with the muzzle high and lowering it into the target after readjusting my butt to shoulder fit/cheek weld/hand & trigger finger position, you want all 4 to be the same for each shot. Hope that helps, Mac
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Based on these films, I had written of the the elbow on chest strance. But based on your recommendation, I'm going to give it a try, and the CMP link you posted. Thanks! I used to do a fair amount of boxing and I can say that, done properly, there is very little fatigue. Regarding wobble, I was concerned that might be an issue. But I have not find it so. At least so far. Maybe as my technique improves I'll find it's not as stable as other alternatives. Basing stance on caliber is something I hadn't considered. I suppose it makes sense that the various aspects of any technique all have their pros and cons, and heavier rifles with more recoil may demand different approaches than lighter firearms with less recoil. |
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Good luck with it! |
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