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Old 10-15-2020, 4:09 PM
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Default Burbank hires outside company to issue citations and collect fines for no mask

Is this even legal?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/watchou...e-fines/%3famp
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Old 10-15-2020, 4:11 PM
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How would they issue the citation? Ask me for ID? I would just ignore them.
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Old 10-15-2020, 5:08 PM
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There is NO legal code in ANY LA County City or the County, that has gone through the proper legal process with public comment or a vote by any city council that has not violated the Brown Act.

The best thing anyone can legally do is suggest you cover your face when outside on public property, Private Property like Cal Guns are the rules of the owner, If a business requires a mask and you want to do business with them, you will have to wear the mask or go elsewhere.

As for a private company handing out citations, good luck enforcing them.
The Abuse of Authority during this over reaction to the COVID virus this year is astonishing.

COVID has been around in one form or another for decades, possibly centuries.

Today any virus can catch a ride to another country within hours and spread with greater speed than in the past.
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Old 10-15-2020, 8:58 PM
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Good luck detaining me.
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How would they issue the citation? Ask me for ID? I would just ignore them.
Then the call the cops. At least that is what the article said.

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Old 10-16-2020, 2:18 PM
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Then the call the cops. At least that is what the article said.

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PD can't do anything unless there is a penal code or municipal code violation.

As far as I know, there are no laws in place for not wearing a mask.

But, if you are asked to leave a place of business for not wearing a mask, and refuse...then you have a trespassing charge.
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Old 10-16-2020, 2:28 PM
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Good luck detaining me.
This.

Somehow, im not surprised. Its the same state that passed Prop 47.
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F that.
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Old 10-16-2020, 2:47 PM
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PD can't do anything unless there is a penal code or municipal code violation.

As far as I know, there are no laws in place for not wearing a mask.

But, if you are asked to leave a place of business for not wearing a mask, and refuse...then you have a trespassing charge.
I have been frantically told I must wear a mask by an employee of a small used tool business. There were no other shoppers, it was semi open air. I turned and walked away, got in my car and left. The person who jumped me over the mask chased the car for a few seconds waving his arms.

Masks are mostly not enforced around here. If a business hires Karen to give me a hard time I am quite happy to go elsewhere. I predict they will be out of business soon. Good...

IF some self appointed mask cop wants to try to detain me they better not touch me. IF they do I will pepper spray them.

The enforcers appear to be from Willdan engineering. http://willdan.com/about.aspx They seem to be in the business of fake technology and securing government money for nonsense.

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Old 10-16-2020, 3:06 PM
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Canít detain a person let alone ask for ID which youíll need to issue the citation if youíre not LEO. Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen if youíre detaining pedestrians illegally with no legal authority.
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Old 10-16-2020, 5:51 PM
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Old 10-16-2020, 8:24 PM
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Can’t detain a person let alone ask for ID which you’ll need to issue the citation if you’re not LEO. Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen if you’re detaining pedestrians illegally with no legal authority.
If there's a city or county ordinance with a fine attached to it- can someone make a citizens arrest and detain? I doubt it but just trying to figure the worst that can happen here.
Aren't there enough senseless stories in the news every week of security guards/rent-a-cops getting killed over being the one that has to engage a random nut-case who isn't wearing a gov mandated "face covering" in some store? Deplorable if you ask me
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I wonder, how many vagrants will be cited?

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I have been frantically told I must wear a mask by an employee of a small used tool business. There were no other shoppers, it was semi open air. I turned and walked away, got in my car and left. The person who jumped me over the mask chased the car for a few seconds waving his arms.

Masks are mostly not enforced around here. If a business hires Karen to give me a hard time I am quite happy to go elsewhere. I predict they will be out of business soon. Good...

IF some self appointed mask cop wants to try to detain me they better not touch me. IF they do I will pepper spray them.

The enforcers appear to be from Willdan engineering. http://willdan.com/about.aspx They seem to be in the business of fake technology and securing government money for nonsense.
Really? Aren't you the same guy that screamed right to refuse service when baking a cake for a gay couple? The hypocrisy is strong!
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I am going to test this! It will be fun!
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So Willdan Engineering reps are going to try to enforce this... ha. First off, as long as they are NOT law enforcement, im going to say " go f them selves".. not going to comply in any way with that bs... id like to see them make me show my id to them so they can write me a nasty gram...
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Old 10-17-2020, 6:27 PM
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Why not just walk away from them?

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Saw a report today on local news of non compliance. But there are those that are going to be intimidated thinking they need to show ID and just go along.
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