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Old 08-16-2019, 5:30 PM
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Old 08-16-2019, 6:09 PM
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Indeed, there's another thread on this from a few days ago. Wear your waders though, the internet Special Forces operators are bent out of shape and evacuating their bowels.
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Old 08-16-2019, 7:05 PM
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Indeed, there's another thread on this from a few days ago. Wear your waders though, the internet Special Forces operators are bent out of shape and evacuating their bowels.
That Japanese guy is not your average Airsoft kid, but pulling triggers is always better than clicking a mouse. At the very least it was entertaining as hell... but really, that kid did shred pretty good after a day of feeling that atomic 9mm / 5.56 recoil Good stuff from Botkin.
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Old 08-16-2019, 7:18 PM
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Repetitively drilling good habits regardless of the platform is always a good thing and should carry over into live fire drills. Those who don't repetitively practice will never be able to execute in crunch time
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Airsoft pistols are as good or better than dry-firing for pistol practice at home.

PRO:
1. You'll get the same weight and feel for draw because Airsoft guns are usually built the same weight (sometimes accomplished by lead inserts in frame) and external dimensions as stock real-steel pistols so you can use the same holster.

2. Airsoft green gas mags have close to the same weight as a loaded magazine (give or take a round or two) so you can practice reloads realistically.

3. Most airsoft pistols can accept the same accessories so you can set up your pistols to be an exact match for grips, sights, etc. You can even modify Airsoft trigger pull and reset though you'll likely have to send that to a specialist 'Airsoft Gunsmith' for that.

4. Convenient: Airsoft BB's only require a blanket or throw rug as a backstop.


CON:
1. The only thing missing is the full feel of recoil. And Green Gas pistol has less recoil impulse than a .22LR.
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What's a good Airsoft Glock 17?
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Old 08-19-2019, 9:40 PM
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Iím looking at the Umarex G19 for some practice. Besides recoil, the trigger will probably be different. But practicing draw and lining up the sights is at least half of what needs to be practiced.

Plus I can use all my weapon lights and holsters.


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not just airsoft.
90% of my practice is dry fire real guns with a laser cartridge.
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Old 08-20-2019, 10:25 AM
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Down rabbit hole of Airsoft brands and Green Gas vs CO2, etc... yeah I'd probably opt for a cheap Umarex CO2 to play with it... already have tons of CO2's and a couple Umarex select fire BB guns. Green Gas seems like it might be cheaper per gram, but $25 per pair and lower pressure... I probably won't care if it is tougher on a $100 Umarex G17 to use CO2. The dual fuel models are interesting but I bet they are $$$$$
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You can also try the electronic based models for a little more economy over the CO2 variants.
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That Japanese guy is not your average Airsoft kid,
In what way?
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In what way?
Heís really serious about it and he practices like some people do here with firearms - in Japan he canít have them. I assume heís well known and relatively famous to be picked to come over for training... in those ways.
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I'm sure every bit helps, But I have to say.

When I built my 510 Wells Express CZ 550 Safari magnum, I built at the same time a geometrically identical CZ 455 in 22 WMR to use for cheap practice.

it did NOT translate well.

Not saying airsoft doesn't translate in this case, just saying that report and recoil are not insignificant even if you train with a 22 to fire 223.
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Having instructed MANY folks to shoot, I can say that it might help for initial basic firearms handling (removing the mag, finger off the trigger etc) but racking the slide is much harder on a real firearm (at least for many of the women I have helped with), and as soon as they feel the recoil and blast (even from a 9mm) the flinching and anticipating begin.
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