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CRPA - To Support or Not Support POLL
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I was a member for a year but started reading some negative news about the organization. I am once again considering supporting CRPA but do not want to waste my money. So fellow gunners, what do you think? Last edited by socal147; 10-11-2019 at 4:32 PM.. |
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Issues like this. And no response from CRPA. |
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Go to the link that you yourself provided. And read the entire thread. paying attention to the last post. Here is a relevant excerpt; Quote:
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Seriously?? Support both. FPC has Miller vs Baccerra in San Diego that could overturn the AW ban. CRPA has numerous lawsuits that are important to our freedom.
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I agree wholeheartedly, CRPA really is as effective as can be reasonably expected in California. Any success with cities and court cases is being led by CRPA.
FPC I am really unsure about putting money in their hands. Their briefs do not seem as effective and I have been unimpressed seeing video of their spokesperson in committee hearings representing 2A causes. Not that you would expect them to sway anyone on the committee, but just on how they spoke about the issues. |
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I was a member decades ago and quit as the organization was a horribly run inner circle old boys club that was not truthful with me.
Of late they are doing what they do as it should be done. I would say that yes supporting them now is a good idea. Because of my experience I'll keep my donations going to the NRA instead. OP, your question was valid. There are "pro gun" organizations that collect funds and actually do nothing but press releases and ad campaigns to get more money.
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In all honesty, there is no reason for exaggeration, or dishonesty.
Sniff was NOT ANTI 2A. He wasn't as PRO 2A as Bianco for sure. And assuredly not as Pro CCW as Chad. Even with his last ditch effort, a month before the election to change his ways. It was too little, too late. And both in 2014 and 2018 no one was more vocal against Sniff than I was. If you doubt it, search SNIFF and my user name. And yes, it rather pissed me off that I got no response from CRPA, as a LIFE MEMBER. Because I disagreed with their choice for 1 candidate. In one local district. Doesn't now nor then, negate ALL THE GOOD they do for 2A in Ca. And NO ONE does more for 2A in Ca than CRPA. That is why I continue to support them, and the MASSIVE effort they put forth for OVERALL 2A in Ca. I don't agree with ALL of what NRA does on the National Front as a LIFE MEMBER either. But I continue support for the same reasons. Would we have THE DONALD as Pres or 187 new Conservative Fed Judges, including 2 on SCOTUS without NRA? And all the 2A civil rights cases in Ca? DON'T BE SMALL MINDED, THINK BIG PICTURE! AND OVERALL GOOD! Here is a re-quote from this thread, concerning same CH!T. https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...F#post22324399 Quote:
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With the Legislature passing anti-gun laws left and right, including a bunch that Governor Newsom signed today, and lawsuits filed by CRPA being the only way to stop them, why is not supporting CRPA even a possibility in any person’s mind? Just read this post. https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...32&postcount=2
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Does every calgunner support every pro gun organization? In spirit or monetarily? Is every "pro gun" organization worthy of our support ? I am just asking a simple question. Sorry for amazing you. Not really ... Sheepdog, thanks for the link. Last edited by socal147; 10-11-2019 at 7:06 PM.. |
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^^^Agree. Millennials, no doubt.
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Jeeze. Clearly you seem to have some beef with CRPA...so what is it? And facts only please.
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What makes you think otherwise? Because I started a poll asking a question? Only facts please. |
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You started a poll but added in details of your being confused about things you previously claimed to have read but did not take the time and energy to seek facts or you sought them out and were not capable of comprehending them. So you call in a lifeline via the forum. Jeeze.
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While this is an amazingly silly question I'll answer it.
YES, you very much should support the CRPA, especially if you enjoyed Freedom Week. Why do I say that, because I know very well what is going on with the CRPA given that I sit on the Board of Directors and am Chairman of the Communications and Technology Committee. The CRPA is committed to fighting for our 2A rights, ALL aspects of our 2A rights and that means having a full time lobbyist in Sacramento, bringing forth thought our litigation to stop or overturn bad laws (not just rushing to be 'first' with questionable lawsuits to enhance fund raising or making big noise on social media), engaging in outreach to bring new people in to the shooting sports, working with pro 2A LE to give a louder voice in Sacramento and work on better CCW procedures and more. Yes, the CRPA had some issues several years ago, and in those years all of the personnel involved have been removed, the structure of both the Board and the Org has been revamped and the CRPA today is nothing like the CRPA of several years ago. Back then I was removed from the Board because I and a few other stood against the policies and personnel that were dragging the CRPA down. When I was asked to return to the Board after the housecleaning it took a lot to convince me it was worth it, I'm still on the Board because I am convinced that the changes have made a better, stronger and more committed CRPA. So now it's my turn to ask questions. Are you a CRPA member? If not what are you doing to further 2A rights? Like Calguns the CRPA is not a singular individual or Board it is the sum of it's members and while the Board can and does do a lot it can not do it all. The members need to be involved, engaged and take action themselves. Unless you're just looking to pay $35 for a membership expecting to just sit back and hope your yearly dues pay for someone else to fix everything for you and then complain when that doesn't work. There are plenty of '2A orgs' who will take your money and promise you exactly that, it doesn't matter if they can not and do not fulfill that promise because they already have your money. ETA: OP looking at your signature you are an NRA Life Member. You are aware that the CRPA is the Official NRA State Affiliate for California correct? Nearly all of the NRA efforts in California are run through the CRPA and our CRPA lobbyist works hand in hand in Sacramento with the NRA State lobbyist every day.
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NRA Benefactor Life Member / CRPA Life Member / SAF Life Member Calguns.net an incorported entity - President. The Calguns Shooting Sports Assoc. - Vice President. The California Rifle & Pistol Assoc. - Director. DONATE TO NRA-ILA, CGSSA, AND CRPAF NOW! Opinions posted in this account are my own and unless specifically stated as such are not the approved position of Calguns.net, CGSSA or CRPA. Last edited by Kestryll; 10-11-2019 at 9:55 PM.. |
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I am a recruiter for the CRPA, you would be surprised how many people have no idea that the CRPA even exists. We need more members now. |
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Do you still need to keep this “poll” open until July 7, 2022 to answer your simple, innocuous question?
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What type of community events do you have a presence at or around the SoCal area? |
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We just started to get Turners up here, so they are giving us a push as well. It is mostly Gun Shows we are at, but yes I would like to see a bigger presence shown all over CA. The problem is finding volunteers to help do that. There is only me and one other member that do the gun shows in about 3 or 4 counties. It is not like there is one every weekend, but enough this time of the year. They have been talking about having an office up here, but when I don't know. They do come up here and go to as many LGS and ranges that they can.
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Thank you Mr. K!!! |
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One learns by asking questions and that is how you can turn an enemy into an ally. Most times you can't but it is worth the try. And what harm does it hurt to leave it open for a while longer? Just ignore it or let the mods deal with it.
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How one can be a California gun owner, see the results the CRPA have procured since Chuck Michel joined the fray, and not also be a CRPA member is beyond me.
Some 15 years ago or so, yes, there was some justifiable criticism buoyed about due to what appeared to be a lack of open-voting of the Board and those in charge resting on long-ago laurels. Not so any more. The current CRPA is doing a fine job, and one of the last prongs we still have left on the trident, now that so many CA gun owners are becoming closeted dissidents of the 2nd Amendment calling for "common sense gun safety laws" or simply apathetic to their 2nd Amendment Rights, which only reinforces those that wish to abolish them. The CRPA is out there in the REAL WORLD fighting against that, every, damned, day.
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I have a limited budget for charitable contributions but I am signed up to auto-donate via paycheck deduction to 5 organizations each and every month. One of which is the Second Amendment Foundation and another of which is CRPA.
My paltry $10 every month doesn't make nor break either of these orgs, nor does it cause me the kind of pain that makes me wince and put my hand protectively over my wallet. But it ends up being $120 a year to each of them. Now imagine everybody on this board doing the same. It wouldn't break anyone's budget, nor cause any spousal arguments. And it would mean thousands of dollars of monthly support for an org most of us would say we enthusiastically support.... yet, many don't... WHY? I am sure there are many answers to that question... but nearly none of them are good excuses. The biggest one I am sure is simple apathy. With all that is going on we need them representing us before the legislature and especially IN COURT more than ever. These cases take time (years in most cases) and cost MONEY. As Special K says, CRPA had some issues years back, basically they had become an Elmer Fudd support group who didn't seem to mind any gun law that didn't impact them owning a double-barrel duck hunting shotgun but those folks are gone and it's a brand new day at the CRPA. Today they are in the game and playing for keeps, representing the 2A rights of ALL Californians, not just the Fuddites. If ANYONE is doing work worthy of a CA gun owner's support, THEY are.
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