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Old 07-01-2018, 3:06 PM
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Default Fired FBI Director James Comey Pushes Gun Control, Bashes NRA

Fired FBI Director James Comey Pushes Gun Control,
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NRA-ILA. FRIDAY, JUNE 29, 2018
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"Surely there are things we can agree upon that relate to who’s able to buy
a weapon, what kind of weapon and at what age, what the capabilities of the
weapon are, how many rounds does it hold, and things like that, that in no
way threaten the rights under the US constitution of people to keep and
bear arms."
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Addressing NRA, Comey stated, “One of the worst things that goes on in the
US is the current voice of the National Rifle Association, because it sells fear
in the wake of any incident.” The former FBI director went on to add,

[NRA’s] constant argument is: ‘It’s a slippery slope. If we restrict a particular
kind of weapon or raise the age of purchase, it means the end of gun
ownership in the US.’ And that argument is a lie… There’s no slippery slope
in America when it comes to guns. It’s a concrete staircase, which is our
constitution…. We just have to decide should we go up a stair or down a stair.
Why would Anyone put this guy in charge of anything ?

Comey's level of Incompetence is so complete, he shouldn't even be
trusted with a Fruit Stand, never mind running a Government Agency.

Comey made the statements while in the UK, you know, that Gun-Free,
Leftist Paradise, with the highest Violent Crime rate in Europe
, where they
now imprison people for stating an opinion that differs from the State, or
daring to report on immigrant Rape Gangs, telling politically incorrect jokes,
or simply posting "Wrong Think" online.

London is now more Dangerous than New York, with its suppression of
basic Rights, like Self Defense & Free Speech, & its violent crime rate, so of
course instead of cracking down on the criminals, politicians are now pushing
for "Knife Control", which will be followed by "Rock Control" when that
doesn't work.

I think Comey should stay in the UK, don't you ?

The UK now has Orwellian Policies he can Embrace and Enjoy, and if he just
happens to get violently mugged or raped, that is just a Small Price to Pay
for living in another Leftist Gun-Free Utopia.


Some people just can't seem to Connect the Dots about what happens
when citizens no longer have the Right to Keep and Bear Arms.

The Brits lost their Gun Rights, and now they are losing their Freedom
of Speech
, with all the Nasty Government Encroachment that follows.


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i think he's searching for supporters in advance of his looming indictments.
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In before Carlos danger comes in here telling us how.great a patriot he is.
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The Bill of Rights isn't supposed to be a staircase. Its supposed to be a concrete wall.
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He is quite the "special idot in charge" who belongs in an orange jumpsuit in GITMO.
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Too bad he got his *** fired. Who cares what this loser thinks?
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Fixed it for you! See, he DID mean well.

“Surely there are things we can agree upon that relate to:”

Who’s able to buy a weapon: Americans

What kind of weapon: the kind used for shooting bad guys and tasty animals

At what age: old enough to require self defense

What the capabilities of the weapon are: must go BANG!

How many rounds does it hold: 1+

“... things like that, that in no way threaten the rights under the US constitution of people to keep and bear arms.”
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A (former) federal official, who DOESN'T understand the Constitution he's sworn to defend?!?!


Well who'da ever thunk it?!?!




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He (Comey) has convinced himself of the lie is truth. sign of a dolt.

Also, the oath he did take meant nothing to him, like so many today.

And in reality it is a VERY slippery slope, & yes the (left) do want your guns. it has already be openly admitted.
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Old 07-02-2018, 8:56 AM
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Many of us believed the FBI had changed into a credible LEO agency after the horrible 1990s.

Unfortunately Comey,Rosenstein,McCabe,Page,Strzok and several others prove this agency at highest levels is a partisan democrat organization that has lost any credibility it once enjoyed.

Come coming out for more gun restrictions! Yeah surprised it took this long.
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Many of us believed the FBI had changed into a credible LEO agency after the horrible 1990s.

Unfortunately Comey,Rosenstein,McCabe,Page,Strzok and several others prove this agency at highest levels is a partisan democrat organization that has lost any credibility it once enjoyed.

Come coming out for more gun restrictions! Yeah surprised it took this long.
It's been a totalitarian entity since its inception.
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This douche bag is the reason we have a 2A. He is the epitome of tyranny and the unequal application of law.
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It's been a totalitarian entity since its inception.
Not so sure Mike! IIRC at one time they had agents and admin who were part of the gun culture.

G Gordan Liddy for one is a patriot who honors 2A .
Guessing J Edgar Hoover was a patriot as well.
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Why are you guys baggin on Comey?

Do you really think ANY law enforcement officer at that level truly supports your right to bear arms? They don't even support your right to be secure in your possessions and papers. Why should any of them support your right to shoot back?

None of Father Trump's appointees have done anything to expand your 2A rights. None of Father Trump's appointees have done anything to protect your 4th Amendment rights, either. Father Trump has, in fact, directed his Administration to further CURTAIL your rights by administratively expanding law to ban bump stocks; has advocated ignoring due process to take guns away from people and has, genuinely, been hostile to your right to own guns.

It's not JUST a Democrat problem. It's a government problem.
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i think he's searching for supporters in advance of his looming indictments.
Bam! Right on point. He is trying to get the rabid left to circle their wagons around him. F the bastard, I hope he goes down hard.
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Why are you guys baggin on Comey?

Do you really think ANY law enforcement officer at that level truly supports your right to bear arms? They don't even support your right to be secure in your possessions and papers. Why should any of them support your right to shoot back?

None of Father Trump's appointees have done anything to expand your 2A rights. None of Father Trump's appointees have done anything to protect your 4th Amendment rights, either. Father Trump has, in fact, directed his Administration to further CURTAIL your rights by administratively expanding law to ban bump stocks; has advocated ignoring due process to take guns away from people and has, genuinely, been hostile to your right to own guns.

It's not JUST a Democrat problem. It's a government problem.
Too bad you missed Gorsuch to the Supreme Court or President Trump himself, speaking before us at the NRA convention in Dallas last month. The president was actually advised to skip the NRA convention.
He simply replied " Fire up my plane"
Nice try though .

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When you have members of the intelligence community abusing their power for political bullying, spying on american citizens, covering for politicians & parties, when he tells me the other 20,000 guns laws are not good enough, and this isn't a "slippery slope", it just solidifies my belief in the 2A and why our founders had it as the 2nd inalienable right....
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This is no surprise. Every disgraced liberal tries to start their political rehabilitation by bashing NRA. Remember Harvey Weinstein saying he was going to expose NRA?
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Why are you guys baggin on Comey?

Do you really think ANY law enforcement officer at that level truly supports your right to bear arms? They don't even support your right to be secure in your possessions and papers. Why should any of them support your right to shoot back?

None of Father Trump's appointees have done anything to expand your 2A rights. None of Father Trump's appointees have done anything to protect your 4th Amendment rights, either. Father Trump has, in fact, directed his Administration to further CURTAIL your rights by administratively expanding law to ban bump stocks; has advocated ignoring due process to take guns away from people and has, genuinely, been hostile to your right to own guns.

It's not JUST a Democrat problem. It's a government problem.
We are criticizing Comey because he deserves it over his Anti 2A,
Anti NRA Rhetoric
, and he needs to be called on it.

Regarding Trump...... We had Two Choices.

Hillary or Trump.

You want to Demonize Trump, and yet if Hillary had won, we would be facing
an Absolute Disaster in regards to 2A.
Hillary would have chosen a Ginsburg
Clone to Replace Scalia, and that alone would have swung SCOTUS to the
Anti-2A Left, and with the current opportunity, Another Ginsburg Clone,
cementing SCOTUS into a hostile entity regarding 2A.

The 2A would have been Nullified out of Existence in a short period of time
with a Hostile SCOTUS, courtesy of Hillary, and you want to compare that to
a ban on Bump-stocks !?

But you go ahead and tell us how bad Trump is regarding the 2A, while
Ignoring anything positive Trump has done for 2A, it just highlights how
disingenuous your argument is.


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He is quite the "special idot in charge" who belongs in an orange jumpsuit in GITMO.
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Too bad you missed Gorsuch to the Supreme Court or President Trump himself, speaking before us at the NRA convention in Dallas last month. The president was actually advised to skip the NRA convention.
He simply replied " Fire up my plane"
Nice try though .
No kidding. Not a perfect president, but his 2A support as POTUS has been solid. Gun owners and NRA members are his base and he knows it.
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No kidding. Not a perfect president, but his 2A support as POTUS has been solid. Gun owners and NRA members are his base and he knows it.
Actually Bobby I do think and believe he is a PERFECT PRESIDENT ! Maybe not a perfect husband . But few of us are !
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Not so sure Mike! IIRC at one time they had agents and admin who were part of the gun culture.

G Gordan Liddy for one is a patriot who honors 2A .
Guessing J Edgar Hoover was a patriot as well.
Hoover was a totalitarian doosh. He used the FBI as his own personal spy ring. Him and Herbert are not that distant cousins of mine, and this side of the family thinks he should have been publicly hung.
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Hoover was a totalitarian doosh. He used the FBI as his own personal spy ring. Him and Herbert are not that distant cousins of mine, and this side of the family thinks he should have been publicly hung.
I based my opinion of J Edgar Hoover on the basis of G Gordon Liddys admiration for the director.
I further think Hoover was good because MSM {democrat) media thought it important to make up stories about him wearing womens underwear and other stuff.

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I based my opinion of J Edgar Hoover on the basis of G Gordon Liddys admiration for the director.
I further think Hoover was good because MSM {democrat) media thought it important to make up stories about him wearing womens underwear and other stuff.

just my 2 cents
I go by my great uncles assessment. He fought in WWI, and grew up knowing J Edgar (his cousin) in his youth. He didn't have a very high opinion of him at all and said he actively looked for ways to avoid joining the military and fighting. Called him a coward and a bully. I do recall him saying "the fruit" when he referred to him every time a news story about the FBI came on. I believe uncle Vick.
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Why are you guys baggin on Comey?

Do you really think ANY law enforcement officer at that level truly supports your right to bear arms? They don't even support your right to be secure in your possessions and papers. Why should any of them support your right to shoot back?

None of Father Trump's appointees have done anything to expand your 2A rights.

Look I agree with your first statement. Federal and state poltical appointed law enframement is generally the most opposed to the Second, fourth and fifth amendment protections of any group in the US.

Rank and file cops overwhelmingly support gun owners but are soft on fourth and fifth amendment.

But on your second point, in politics one is crazy not to relativize. there has likely never been a US president in all of US history more supportive of the second amendment rights of individuals than Trump.
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"I think Hoover was good because MSM {democrat) media thought it important to make up stories about him wearing womens underwear and other stuff."

That was a Russian disinformation operation, that the jive az dumkoffs in the American media ran with-don't know or care if he was gay- but he was not a flamer.

http://www.theamericanconservative.c...-long-history/

The KGB was astonished that the media idiots swallowed it.

"One instance in particular illustrates Service A’s methods and how triumphantly they could shape public opinion. The Soviets naturally wanted to destroy the reputation of FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover, a dedicated and lethally effective foe of Soviet espionage until his death in 1972. Even after his death, the vilification continued, and in the context of the time, the deadliest charge that could be levied against him was that of homosexuality. Accordingly, the Mitrokhin Archive shows how hard the Soviets worked to spread that rumor."

Comey is a crooked, evil harpy fan boy.

A proven enemy of our Constitution and Republic.

He needs to be tried and jailed.

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James Comey could be facing some serious charges if what we read about Lisa page testimony is true and acted upon .

Its really important the the FBI get their house cleaned. As it stands now many people have ZERO respect for them and I doubt many citizens would cooperate with them in such a partisan enviroment.
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https://downtrend.com/71superb/james...s-in-midterms/
"What’s an endorsement from James Comey worth? About as much as his honor and integrity. That is to say, absolutely nothing. The disgraced former FBI director is not just endorsing all democrats in the midterm elections, he’s trying to force Americans to vote against Republicans. This is just another reason why the democrats are going to get slaughtered come November".

It would appear Comey was a democrat all along ! Who could have guessed !
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What do James Comey and Dan Rather have in common?

The appellation "disgraced" will forever be associated with both of them.
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In before Carlos danger comes in here telling us how.great a patriot he is.
Whatever happened to that clown?
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Whatever happened to that clown?
He's trying out his comedy act in another thread.
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Pull his security clearance. He's disgraced and fired.
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https://www.breitbart.com/2016-presi...on-connection/
These concerns focus on millions of dollars that Comey accepted from a Clinton Foundation defense contractor, Comey’s former membership on a Clinton Foundation corporate partner’s board, and his surprising financial relationship with his brother Peter Comey, who works at the law firm that does the Clinton Foundation’s taxes.



This corruption with the Hilldog goes hand and hand with the vile anti self defense crowd.

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Comey will not fair well in the military tribunal, can't wait to see him hanged along with all his conspirators.
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