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Old 09-18-2020, 7:20 PM
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The new SCOTUS vacancy DEMANDS that we do all we canto get Trump reelected...
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Old 09-18-2020, 9:39 PM
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Free trade with slave states that subsidize entire industries to have market control is your idea of free trade?

Go back to Soros, Bloomberg and the DNC and tell them you stuck out again by your pretend conservative narrative !
I agree 100%. You know what's up.
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The new SCOTUS vacancy DEMANDS that we do all we canto get Trump reelected...
You nailed it.
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The only way to do this (since the weak kneed Repubs in the Senate failed to impeach him) is to vote him out of office and if that means voting for Biden/Harris, so be it.

NOTHING happened to our 2nd Amendment rights when Obama/Biden were elected and NOTHING will happen when Biden/Harris are elected too.

The SCOTUS has already set a clear standards for preserving our 2nd A rights and if the very "liberal" 9th Circuit can issue a ruling declaring the hicap mag ban "unconstitutional" that just proves that voting Repub is entirely unncessary to preserve our 2nd A rights.
Are you serious? Both Biden and Harris have pledged to further weaken 2A. Harris said that she’ll give Congress 90 days to make national gun laws or she will take executive action. She wants to protect the babies....just not the unborn ones.

Biden has said that he’s going to appoint Master Beto O’Rourke as his “gun czar” to confiscate “dangerous weapons” from legal gun owners.

The SCOTUS has been silent on 2A and has not taken any of the California cases like the high (actually standard) magazine law and the California roster law. If Libs get the SCOTUS majority at some point we all know that 2A is toast.

If you think that Biden/Harris is a better option than Trump/Pence then I hope you’re thinking about that as armed government officials knock on you door and demand your guns.

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Are YOU really so OBTUSE as to compare Trump to Hitler? Name ANYTHING, ANY executive action, that he has actually taken (not said) that would give even a half-wit a basis to compare him to Hitler? So far its the progressives and the democrats who are failing to condemn and thereby quietly encouraging the thugs who are tearing down the country, rioting, burning, looting, causing chaos and anarchy for political gain! STUDY German history in the 1920's-30's and you will see that is EXACTLY how the Nazi Sturmabteilung (brown shirts) operated; using violence to demand political change they wanted, using violence to suppress opposition voices and breakup opposition political rallies/events... !
Why do you have to bring historical facts into the conversation? The guy only compared Trump to Hitler. No, he didn’t offer any evidence to what he said, but in this day and age you just need to say it.

I see Antifa as 1930 Nazi Germany brown shirts too. Not many other people have made the connection or realized the similarities. Lots of similarities with the DNC and Nazi Germany. Disarming citizens, whites and police replacing Jews, Antifa are the brown shirts, propaganda, leftist ideals taught in schools, forcefully taking from one group and giving to another, etc...
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It baffles me that in such a great country with so many ingenious people that we are left choosing between Biden and Trump.

I'm not attacking either - or maybe I am attacking both - but where are the great leaders, those of which the likes are of those who founded this country?

We evolve yes, but unfortunately there is certain character lacking in all of these candidates.

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Trump is the right man for our times. Not many people have the fortitude that he has to withstand so much hatred for the past 4 years and to fight the establishment and the evil media.
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Undoubtedly a display of character and leadership that is often ignored.
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Trump is the right man for our times. Not many people have the fortitude that he has to withstand so much hatred for the past 4 years and to fight the establishment and the evil media.
^^^^This is the most insightful comment in the thread! Thank you for pointing it out.
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Old 09-19-2020, 8:55 AM
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Some more FACTS supporting the argument that we need to vote for Trump and to exclusively vote Republican as gun owners seeking to protect the 2A!


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The dissent is a powerful defense of the exercise of Second Amendment rights, and of Constitutional limitation of government power. Eight judges are nearly a third of the judges on the Ninth Circuit. Seven of those eight judges were appointed by President Donald Trump. Here is an excerpt from the dissent.

Dissenting from the denial of rehearing en banc, Judge Bumatay, joined by Judges VanDyke, and with whom judges Ikuta, Bade, and Hunsaker join as to Part IV, and with whom Judges Bennett, Collins, and Bress join as to Part IV.B, stated that the panel’s opinion justified the disturbing deprivation of a fundamental right by ignoring the history and tradition of the Second Amendment and applying ill-suited, foreign statistical studies that had no bearing on plaintiff’s circumstances. The proper inquiry would have recognized that the lifetime ban imposed by § 922(g)(4) on plaintiff is unequivocally a complete deprivation of his core right to home gun ownership, and therefore that the law was unconstitutional. Judge Bumatay stated that the panel incorrectly identified intermediate scrutiny as the proper standard of review and then flubbed its application. By failing to correct these errors, the Court undermined its Second Amendment jurisprudence and gave an unworthy judicial imprimatur to the false premise that once mentally ill, always mentally ill. Dissenting from the denial of rehearing en banc, Judge VanDyke, joined by Judge Bumatay, stated that he agreed with Judge Bumatay’s dissent from the denial of rehearing en banc and wrote separately because he believes that the panel should have reconsidered the panel’s circular logic about who lies at the core of the Second Amendment. Judge VanDyke stated that the panel’s bootstrapping, class-based approach to defining those at the “core” of the Second Amendment was unjust and antithetical to controlling case law. Judge VanDyke also stated that the court’s intermediate scrutiny jurisprudence is broken, at least as to Second Amendment claims.

All but one of the judges who actively dissented, in order to protect and defend Second Amendment rights at the Ninth Circuit, were appointed by President Donald Trump. The other judge was appointed by President George W. Bush.

Judge Appointed by

Bade Trump appointee
Bumatay Trump appointee
Bennet Trump appointee
Bress Trump appointee
Collin Trump appointee
Hunsaker Trump appointee
Ikuta G. W. Bush appointee
VanDyke Trump appointee
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This is a no brainer. Whoever values liberty should vote for Trump.
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If you value what little we have left and hope to improve the situation in the future Trump is the only vote that makes any sense. Biden/ Harris are not our friends. Never will be.
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