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Old 04-03-2019, 7:11 PM
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I'm putting some final touches on my Springfield loaded stainless, and I've got it just about perfect for my preferences. However, the beaver tail fit is just way too sloppy for my eyes and I'd like to fix that before refinishing. I've fit several beavertails and can do a competent job, but the tangs are just over cut and Springfield does a weird radius. Does anyone know of a local shop that can weld up the frame tangs? I have the jigs and everything to get it back down to size, I just am not set up to weld. I'm in San Diego (Chula Vista) and am willing to travel a reasonable distance, as I'd prefer not to ship if possible. Thanks for any suggestions,

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Old 04-03-2019, 7:36 PM
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To be honest I would just have a smith do it. The only thing I could think of is asking a machine shop if they would do it but the issue there is that they may not be familiar with what you want done and may not weld it properly.

I’ve done a few beaver tails as well from a milspec and a GI. But would rather pay someone now to do it. My eyes and hands are not what they used to be
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Old 04-03-2019, 7:41 PM
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Fitting the parts myself is fun for me, and I enjoy it as much as the shooting. Otherwise I would definitely go that route and just hire out the work. Appreciate the input though!
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Here is one I did.






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Without a doubt as evident above, an experienced and talented gunsmith is the way to go.

Just curious, did you happen to use a .220 radius grip safety? They seem to fit the Springfield Armory pistols better than the .250 radius.
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Old 04-04-2019, 1:30 AM
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I still have the stock grip safety installed, but I did test fit an EGW .220 safety a while back that I was using for another project and it still had gaps. I know Springfield has changed the radius a couple times over the years, and this particular model is from the mid-2000's. It appears to be some weird compound radius, and I'm pretty confident that welding up is my only option. Randall may be my best option, I just wanted to see what all my choices are. I had a local machinist for this type of thing but he's been pretty booked up
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Old 04-04-2019, 1:54 AM
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interesting, thanks.

i didn't realize that the radius/geometry had changed over the years.

I only mentioned the .220 because it worked well on mine while the .250 did not.
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Old 04-04-2019, 6:03 AM
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if you are willing to drive to van nuys make an appointment with ar15barrrels to do the welding for you. He will do it while you wait and you can do the finish and fit yourself.
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.220 is recommended for Springfield frames but you can fit a .250 if your adding that much more material. The Ed browns are typically .250. The smith and Alexander come in both flavors. Some use a tighter radius like the one Harrison design makes and fit them up accordingly. It is a fun process and I do enjoy doing them. But arthritis and my eyes start causing me issues

Ar15barrels. I had no idea you are able to weld up tangs. I need to visit you more often for some rifles I need work on.
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Iíd be concerned with introducing distortion in the base metal on frame areas around the weld. Is this not really an issue? Itís basically a plug/fill type weld thatís ground back to a smooth radius correct?
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Old 04-04-2019, 2:07 PM
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It can be an issue if not done properly, but welding up the tangs is pretty common now for custom gunsmith builds. It's generally tig'd or laser welded to keep heat distortion to a minimum. The drive to van nuys will cost as much if not more than shipping haha, but at least I could avoid the wait. I'd still like to see if there is someone further south that I haven't heard about though.

I will more than likely be going with a .220 so I don't need any more filler than necessary.
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Smith & Alexander do make a .220 radius beaver tail grip safety with and without palm swell.
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