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Old 03-06-2015, 7:58 AM
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Anyone suggest either Sheriff or local PD?

There was a big back and forth on the Fresno Gun Club FB page about this and I'm not sure the best route to go and why.

I do like that the PD has a direct contact in Ed Torrez that you can call at anytime for any reason since I have some questions prior to starting my CCW process and I was told the PD can get you in Right Away like now and now have to wait like County.

I have the application and I'm getting it filled out but not sure where I am going to go yet to start.
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I don't live in the city so the County was my only option. That said, I had no issues with the process and the individuals I had dealings with were supportive and professional.

Very quick from interview to approval letter, as in about a week. Still waiting for the DOJ.
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I took a look at my coming license today and didn't see any restrictions on the permit.

What information are you looking for?
I was under the impression here in California (I'm new to the state) that the individual counties/issuing authorities list their own additional rules on the permit that must be followed.
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I was under the impression here in California (I'm new to the state) that the individual counties/issuing authorities list their own additional rules on the permit that must be followed.
There is a four gun restriction and the verbal restrictions I received were no airports and no schools.

Hope that helps.
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Anyone suggest either Sheriff or local PD?

There was a big back and forth on the Fresno Gun Club FB page about this and I'm not sure the best route to go and why.

I do like that the PD has a direct contact in Ed Torrez that you can call at anytime for any reason since I have some questions prior to starting my CCW process and I was told the PD can get you in Right Away like now and now have to wait like County.

I have the application and I'm getting it filled out but not sure where I am going to go yet to start.
Check both calendars, I suppose. If you live in the city then you can go through the PD, but if you live in an outlying area or city then go through SO.
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Either the city or county they both seem to issue. I did the county took 5 months last year.

EDIT UPDATE: a story someone posted about women with guns said the Sheriff's office now takes about a year due to the number of applications. If you belive news stories might want to check the FPD timeframe.
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I live in the city, but went with SD. The differences are minor but here's what I know.

SD Requires a 6 hour CCW class. PD requires 8 hours.

SD allows up to 4 guns on your permit. PD allows 3.

If you are pulled over for any reason you are not required to identity you have a concealed permit and you are carrying unless asked by the officer if you have a SD permit. PD you must disclose upon being pulled over.

SD was very helpful and k have heard good things about PD as well.

SD restrictions are no court houses, airport secure area and school grounds( it's not law YET but part of their rules) I don't know PDs restrictions.



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I live in the city, but went with SD. The differences are minor but here's what I know.

SD Requires a 6 hour CCW class. PD requires 8 hours.

SD allows up to 4 guns on your permit. PD allows 3.

If you are pulled over for any reason you are not required to identity you have a concealed permit and you are carrying unless asked by the officer if you have a SD permit. PD you must disclose upon being pulled over.

SD was very helpful and k have heard good things about PD as well.

SD restrictions are no court houses, airport secure area and school grounds( it's not law YET but part of their rules) I don't know PDs restrictions.
Thank you. I have my follow-up with the SD next week.
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Update: The responses are in from both the DOJ and the FBI, but I imagine I will still have to wait another month until my CCW hard card and 4501 form arrive.

Why does the DOJ response take For-eh-verr? FBI response was done the same day I did my live scan.

I already knew that I had to be patient, but it doesn't hurt to ask why they take forever. The SD put an issuance date on my permit and stated that if the system takes longer than anticipated they would change the date so there was no missed time.

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Called Sheriffs office yesterday to schedule appt. for application drop off and first interview.

They are about 1-1/2 months out

My interview is April 27th
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Deciding on SD or PD, taking class for multi state soon at Breco. Do a lot of traveling and figured I put it off long enough.

Anyone know the wait time for PD?
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Deciding on SD or PD, taking class for multi state soon at Breco. Do a lot of traveling and figured I put it off long enough.

Anyone know the wait time for PD?
I've head the PD is much quicker ... The guy to call and talk with is Ed Torrez.

I opted for SD since I have been told by most to go that route and not PD ( they do extra background checks along with a few more rules come along with the PD).

But I was told they are like "come in now if you want" kinda quick lately.
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I've head the PD is much quicker ... The guy to call and talk with is Ed Torrez.

I opted for SD since I have been told by most to go that route and not PD ( they do extra background checks along with a few more rules come along with the PD).

But I was told they are like "come in now if you want" kinda quick lately.
Awesome. Thank you.
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I couldn't find anything from searching -- does Fresno County allow more than three handguns for their permit?

I'm in waiting limbo right now and would like to use my GSSF coupon, but if I can't add a fourth I may just choose a full size instead of compact.
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When we renew do we have to go through same process. If by then if a new sheriff is in office can they make it where we can't renew
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I couldn't find anything from searching -- does Fresno County allow more than three handguns for their permit?

I'm in waiting limbo right now and would like to use my GSSF coupon, but if I can't add a fourth I may just choose a full size instead of compact.
Fresno County allows max 4 guns. You can always add the fourth one later for $10 without going through the process again. Was told you can fill out a form at the livescan place and pay the fee there.
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Fresno County allows max 4 guns. You can always add the fourth one later for $10 without going through the process again. Was told you can fill out a form at the livescan place and pay the fee there.
Excellent, thanks for the quick reply. I'm going to call them tomorrow and inquire if I can do it before my initial permit arrives. Now to find a dealer who will accept the GSSF coupon...
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When we renew do we have to go through same process. If by then if a new sheriff is in office can they make it where we can't renew
no. you only need to go to the livescan place across the street from sheriff office and do your renewal paperwork. I think it's highly unlikely that the new sheriff will stop renew the permit, as long as you don't let it expires.

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Any other places you guys go to other than the Range. Night two is 4 hours right? How does it all go, first night is all class time and second night you shoot for the whole class? If you want to do two guns I would have to bring 100rds of ammo?
I took the class with John Linenbach. Highly recommending him. You can do all in one day.
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Still waiting. Permit date of issuance was 4/15/15.
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Our planned trainer turned out to be a bust for us and was our only significant delay up to the point of getting our test/livescans done yesterday. We ended up just going to The Range for the required training.

Some FUD built in to the training but it's a nice facility.

Our timeline so far:

First call around 8 December.

First interview on 16 December.

Approval letters postmarked 22 December.

CCW training class 28/29 January.

Test/livescan 5 February.

Now we wait on the DOJ...

AND the wait in finally over. The obvious bottleneck is DOJ...

Anyway, my wife's permit arrived in the mail Thursday, and mine was in today's mail. (Sat, 25 April) That's 80 days from livescan to permit in hand, 139 days from the first phone call. The FCSO was pretty efficient and the only delays came from our schedule (about 30 days) and the DOJ's delay.
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I have my first interview with the Sheriffs office tomorrow morning.

Hopefully it goes well and my past issues 15+ years ago don't effect my approval.

Guess we will see.

Called about 6 weeks ago .... so a month and a half is not bad.

I will update with how the interview goes and then if I get a Yay or Nay
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Approved ... Time to go purchase my carry weapon and take the CCW class in a few weeks!
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So after I get my CCW course done and qualified I of course have to go back in and take the test, be fingerprinted and pay fee.

Question .........

How hard is the test at the sheriffs office? What does it consist of, how many questions, etc. etc. etc.?????


Just kinda wanting to know what to expect is all.

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Can you tell up from down? You'll pass the test.

It was multiple guess, 25 or questions. I read quickly and I seriously think it took me less than 3 minutes and I missed zero. My wife took a few minutes longer and missed one.
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Can you tell up from down? You'll pass the test.

It was multiple guess, 25 or questions. I read quickly and I seriously think it took me less than 3 minutes and I missed zero. My wife took a few minutes longer and missed one.
Pretty much exactly what I figured but was just curious.

Basically common sense ... I do the FSC test and think "really, a child could pass this test" LOL

Thanks for the reply ... figured it was stupidly easy.
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So another question ..... I know that when you get done taking the class etc. etc. and you go in for the second interview to drop off the completed class certificate, take the test and then you pay ... you get fingerprinted and pay the fees that includes a background check as well.

So the back-ground check .... what is that for? Do they not do that already before Approving you for a CCW license? I am assuming it's kinda the same thing as buying a firearm? You are paying for the background via the DOJ and the county is registering you with them as a concealed carry permit holder?

Am I right on the reason they fingerprint and background check you? (cause the background check part is pretty pricey at $132 for prints and check).

Thanks so much guys for the info ... just want to make sure there will be no issues in the end after paying near 300 bucks for the class and county fees you know.
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Great Info Here ...........

http://www.fresno.gov/NR/rdonlyres/F...14WEBREADY.pdf

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Sheriff's department has told me one two occasions now that they are still waiting for the CADOJ response for my live scan. Live scan says they sent the response to FSD no March 12th. Working on 11 weeks now from Live Scan. I know they are pretty busy with CCW permits, but I would think they would hold to their personal goal of 3 months from begging to end of the process.

Anyone else have to wait longer than the 8 weeks?
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Sheriff's department has told me one two occasions now that they are still waiting for the CADOJ response for my live scan. Live scan says they sent the response to FSD no March 12th. Working on 11 weeks now from Live Scan. I know they are pretty busy with CCW permits, but I would think they would hold to their personal goal of 3 months from begging to end of the process.

Anyone else have to wait longer than the 8 weeks?
I'm at exactly eight weeks from my Livescan. Both agencies returned the Livescan results the same day I was fingerprinted...
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So this is a wait AFTER you go in and take your test, do your fingerprints and pay your fee's???

You are waiting this long Just to get your permit from them in the mail?

IS this normal? I was told you get your permit pretty quick after you in for your test and fingerprinting (after you do your CCW class etc.).

Curious if this is the case?????
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So this is a wait AFTER you go in and take your test, do your fingerprints and pay your fee's???

You are waiting this long Just to get your permit from them in the mail?

IS this normal? I was told you get your permit pretty quick after you in for your test and fingerprinting (after you do your CCW class etc.).

Curious if this is the case?????
You are correct, this is post fingerprinting, etc., and yes, it is "normal." We are fortunate by California standards here in Fresno county.
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You are correct, this is post fingerprinting, etc., and yes, it is "normal." We are fortunate by California standards here in Fresno county.
So After I complete my CCW class and go in an take my test, fingerprint, pay my fees I could literally wait like 2 months just for my permit to show up due to this livescan crap taking forever?
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I have my first interview coming up. What does that consist of?
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So After I complete my CCW class and go in an take my test, fingerprint, pay my fees I could literally wait like 2 months just for my permit to show up due to this livescan crap taking forever?
I believe the DOJ is the ones who holds this part up.


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I have my first interview coming up. What does that consist of?
They look over the application and if the see anything they want you the explain further. I think I was there 10 minutes.
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Well that kinda pisses me off

Hopefully this will not be the case and my permit arrives in a descent amount of time.

I swear we wait F'ing long enough for anything gun related in this $#!t Hole State as it is!
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Falconman, if you read some of the previous post you'll see reference to this issue multiple times. When I did my initial interview the retired Deputy I interviewed with told me to expect two to three months waiting for the DOJ.

It was 80 days from livescan to getting the permit in the mail, at every other step of the way the FCSO was supportive, fast, and efficient.
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Interesting ... wasn't aware it took that long ... bummer

Oh well, I haven't had it for 37 years now, "guess an extra couple months Won't Kill Me ... Hopefully"
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