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Old 09-10-2021, 8:40 AM
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At PSA. You guys can buy those?
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We can buy them. IMO they are not worth it. What makes them worth $1700 besides sentiment for the old Python?

PS - Sportsmans has them for $1500, in stock
https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-...unds/p/1620948

Maybe when they come down around $1200 I would get one.
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We can buy them. IMO they are not worth it. What makes them worth $1700 besides sentiment for the old Python?

PS - Sportsmans has them for $1500, in stock
https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-...unds/p/1620948

Maybe when they come down around $1200 I would get one.
I'm not sure I've ever seen prices on a new gun dragged up by prices on an older, different gun that really only share a name. Anyway, CZ will sort production soon enough I'd imagine then we should see prices at MSRP or under.
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I'd imagine then we should see prices at MSRP or under.
Imagine no more. Sportsman's Warehouse has them in stock and are selling them at MSRP.

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I bought one from sportsman warehouse (1499.00 plus tax and dros = $1668.91)
the 6" is a terrific gun, well made and very accurate. I have several of the blued models (4", 6" 8" and 2.5") that I don't shoot. I also bought the new 4" model which is a great carry piece. With the CNC machining, the tolerances are very good, not a lot of hand fitting needed as the old ones in the past.
If you like Colt revolvers, definitely consider these.

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Imo, hand fitting is what keeps up the value of the first Pythons.
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Would love to get a Python, but only blued. I know this is a dream scenario, but maybe someday they'll produce it.
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Would love to get a Python, but only blued. I know this is a dream scenario, but maybe someday they'll produce it.
Even if they do, it won't be the same blue they used to have.

The reason Colt stopped producing Pythons was that they were hand-made, which made them expensive. The new Python is made like other contemporary gun, which means it's an industrial process. Bluing is almost certainly going to be the one step that is "industrialized." There is a slim chance they might offer custom bluing from the custom shop, but if S&W Performance Center is any indication, it likely won't be anything close to the true "custom."
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I have both. A new model 6" and a 1980 made 8" nickel "Target Model" in 38 Special. Thumb cocking the old model is easier than the new model, mostly by virtue of a longer spur on the hammer - better leverage. But the new model is just as smooth and I would say better than some old model Pythons in stainless. DA pull on the new model is better than that of the old. However the new model Python SA trigger pull is horrible.

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Imagine no more. Sportsman's Warehouse has them in stock and are selling them at MSRP.

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MSRP is $1499? Why did I think it was $1199? LOL, whatever the market will bear I guess.
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I have three of the old ones and 2 of the new ones. The double action pulls on the new ones are great. The single action pull however was 6 lbs on them. I reshaped the sear notch on the hammer and got the pulls to about 3 lbs. I don't understand why the factory does not do this. The hammer will not slip even with me applying a lot of force on it when cocked, so it is safe, and if I can do it the factory can do it. I do not regret buying them I got both of them for MSRP.
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4.25" vs 6.00" ....? SW has the 6" in stock, but for some reason, the shorter looks more balanced.

When I got the notification from S&W - it was gone in less than a few minutes.


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MSRP is $1499? Why did I think it was $1199? LOL, whatever the market will bear I guess.
My interest in this new name-drop-robbing of the Python stops at $1,295 max. Anything above the MSRP is ridiculous, and I would rather out that $1,700 toward a pre-1978 blued or nickle version if it reaches that high of a price.

These simply are NOT the Pythons of yore, and no, having experience with each, this new one is not better. At $1,700, there are plenty better revolvers from S&W, now Kimber's K6s, even Ruger.

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My interest in this new name-drop-robbing of the Python stops at $1,295 max. Anything above the MSRP is ridiculous, and I would rather out that $1,700 toward a pre-1978 blued or nickle version if it reaches that high of a price.

These simply are NOT the Pythons of yore, and no, having experience with each, this new one is not better. At $1,700, there are plenty better revolvers from S&W, now Kimber's K6s, even Ruger.

By the time you are in LNIB old Python territory you're in MR73 territory, and those are much better guns.
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Maybe when they come down around $1200 I would get one.
I get one if they get down to $1000, local, no FFL fee. If $1700 then I save some coin and get the Les Baer 1911.
It is a funny thing while Python fan boy said 7# trigger is a nice trigger while 1911 fan boy and Glock fan boy talking about 3.5# trigger and CZ fan boy talkin about CGW trigger. Oh sh.t, i am in trouble now.
(BTW, I had couple SAA revolvers and all of them trigger is around 3.5#).

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By the time you are in LNIB old Python territory you're in MR73 territory, and those are much better guns.
Meh... already have both. A few more wouldn't kill me, but I would be going for another classic Korth instead ( no interest in the 'new' Korths either).

But I would more likely spend it on another Registered Magnum or Triple-Lock.

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no blued option is a deal breaker for me

much prefer vintage colt, smith, etc.

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If I understand correctly, there's a big difference between the newer and the older Pythons. Definitely no expert here.
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Meh... already have both. A few more wouldn't kill me, but I would be going for another classic Korth instead ( no interest in the 'new' Korths either).

But I would more likely spend it on another Registered Magnum or Triple-Lock.

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There's always Janz if you're jaded by lesser offerings.
Now that's one I've had no such luck getting my hands on. Have missed out on auctions or opportunities, but would love adf one day. That and a Medusa is another that has evaded my clutch all these years.

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I'm holding out for the polished blued version.....
Yeah, yeah, I know

FWIW, Turners has the 4.25" for $1599.00
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Pythons are nice, but given how well my S&W M65 (with sweet trigger job) shoots, I don't see the need to pay that sort of coin for a Python. That M65, with trigger job, cost me a whole lot less than the Python's MSRP.
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Would love to get a Python, but only blued. I know this is a dream scenario, but maybe someday they'll produce it.
Own a Colt Python and Trooper III both circa 1980, blued and finish is phenomenal…
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Own a Colt Python and Trooper III both circa 1980, blued and finish is phenomenal…
amen - the finish on my 71 lawman mk III even deserves honorable mention

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Anderson Wheeler? I'd love one of these. http://andersonwheeler.co.uk/the-gun-room/revolver/
Wow, thanks! Quality and build looks amazing. Definitely putting on the 'pursuit' list.

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Turner have for $1549, still cheaper than those people selling in market place

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Wow, thanks! Quality and build looks amazing. Definitely putting on the 'pursuit' list.

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Pretty reasonable price wise for what it is honestly. That's a lot of skilled man hours in that revolver. If you find a US source let me know.
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LoL - never seen a polished webley

but I like the idea, interesting design



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Pretty reasonable price wise for what it is honestly. That's a lot of skilled man hours in that revolver. If you find a US source let me know.
What is the price? I didn't see it anywhere.
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What is the price? I didn't see it anywhere.
I think it's "please inquire", but they were around 7K UK pounds last I heard. More than a Korth, less than a Janz.
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