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Old 11-21-2021, 8:27 PM
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Default Colt pocket positive finish

One more project.
I got Colt pocket positive .32 with no finish left on it and sizable pitting.
Want to refinish it just to see what can be done and what I can do. I'm leaning to Durafil / duracoat solution. (open for discussion) ?ALUMA-HYDE?

My main question what color to choose closest to original

https://www.duracoatfirearmfinishes....-kit-p/dfk.htm
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Old 11-22-2021, 1:03 PM
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They were probably blued, so I'm guessing black would be the closest.
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Old 11-22-2021, 3:08 PM
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Thank You
I'm not exactly color blind, more like color unexperienced. in the link they offering more then 10 each for black and blue, My research leaning to Blue Royal, but I feel it been used on for very high end Colts
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i just looked up that pistol and at least it seems there were some high end variants so at least some probably had pretty fancy bluing?...to my eye however and perhaps it's because of their age, they do seem lighter than what i would have considered a Colt Royal Blue....maybe more like the blue-black?


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Old 11-22-2021, 6:47 PM
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Thank You all. Since "Royal Blue" is the only name I could put in regards to Colt, I'll go with it. I thought it is an easy answer, just I could not find it (trust me I've looked).
Thank You All.
Going to report back
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Old 11-22-2021, 7:36 PM
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Since it is steel, blast and parkerize it first, that is the best, and recommended base for ceracote.
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i just looked up that pistol and at least it seems there were some high end variants so at least some probably had pretty fancy bluing?...to my eye however and perhaps it's because of their age, they do seem lighter than what i would have considered a Colt Royal Blue....maybe more like the blue-black?


http://coltautos.com/DA/PocketPositi...positiveci.htm
Thank You, it is very useful link
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Since it is steel, blast and parkerize it first, that is the best, and recommended base for ceracote.
Does ceracote addresses the pitting??
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Old 11-23-2021, 11:20 PM
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Does ceracote addresses the pitting??
No, but the sandblasting before the cerakote makes it much less noticable unless it's really bad pitting.

I would not bother using fillers as those usually rattle out over time.
If you have bad pits, you can use soft solder to fill them and then sand/stone the solder flush with the surrounding metal before painting.
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Please post pictures along the process

We have a member here who was restoring or resurrecting pistols and firearms.

It's a fun process to observe
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No, but the sandblasting before the cerakote makes it much less noticable unless it's really bad pitting.

I would not bother using fillers as those usually rattle out over time.
If you have bad pits, you can use soft solder to fill them and then sand/stone the solder flush with the surrounding metal before painting.
Part my rusty English, By soft solder you mean plumber solder??!!
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Please post pictures along the process

We have a member here who was restoring or resurrecting pistols and firearms.

It's a fun process to observe
I've posted picture before, learn I have a long way ahead of me before showing up, You've seen my Carcano and cz70. I'll get pictures of the Colt out soon.
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1745941
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1746878
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Part my rusty English, By soft solder you mean plumber solder??!!
Low temp solder is often called soft solder to differentiate it from high temp solder that is harder.
You want low temp so you don't trash the heat treating while you are soldering.
I would use a low temp silver solder, not standard plumbing solder but standard plumbing solder would work too with the proper flux for steel.
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Low temp solder is often called soft solder to differentiate it from high temp solder that is harder.
You want low temp so you don't trash the heat treating while you are soldering.
I would use a low temp silver solder, not standard plumbing solder but standard plumbing solder would work too with the proper flux for steel.
Thank You, Randall. So basically, don't get metal red hot
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Thank You, Randall. So basically, don't get metal red hot
absolutely not!
Soft solder is around 400-600 flow temps.
Blast it clean to get rust out of the pits so you don't try to solder over rust.
Flux, heat and then flow the solder while the torch is removed.
Only use the minimum heat required to make it flow and stick.
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So if I go solder, it means I will have to use some kind of paint, non of oxidation steel rusting type would work.

And is there any way to make markings deeper, more visible??
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So if I go solder, it means I will have to use some kind of paint, non of oxidation steel rusting type would work.
Correct.

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And is there any way to make markings deeper, more visible??
If you can find someone with the original stamps to re-stamp your gun, that's about the only way.
It would be like finding a very specific needle in a all the wheat fields in the state of Kansas.

It would be far easier to buy a nicer gun that's not all messed up.
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That thing is beat and is never going to be anything nice. Blast, park it, paint it if you want, and call it good. Its a beat up, rusty 1984 Ford Tempo, your not going to make it a glossy restored Ferrari.
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That thing is beat and is never going to be anything nice. Blast, park it, paint it if you want, and call it good. Its a beat up, rusty 1984 Ford Tempo, your not going to make it a glossy restored Ferrari.
I know that, And else I want to know what I can do, so I'm not taking Ferrari and make it 1984 Ford Tempo
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That thing is beat and is never going to be anything nice.
Blast, park it, paint it if you want, and call it good.
I am not going to put my google password in to look at the pictures.
Too bad he didn't simply post visible pictures that are not behind a login because I would have liked to have seen them.

I suppose I could just post up my Colt Pocket Positive:



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Old 11-26-2021, 10:30 AM
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Sorry guys, just tried to keep post clearer, scrolling already takes some time, I don't know why password issue is coming, it not supposed to, I had check the link on third party browser, Going different way now let me know if they can be seen


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I am not going to put my google password in to look at the pictures.
Too bad he didn't simply post visible pictures that are not behind a login because I would have liked to have seen them.

I suppose I could just post up my Colt Pocket Positive

Thank You pictures, They are going to help a lot

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Thank You pictures, They are going to help a lot
I just won the Smith and Wesson twin to my Pocket Positive.

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I had listed pictures, one day they were up, next day not there anymore
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I just won the Smith and Wesson twin to my Pocket Positive.
Congrats. It is beauty.
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SGoing different way now let me know if they can be seen

Now that I have seen the pictures, I am going to have to agree with my fishing buddy and say blast and parkerize it and call it done.
I am close to Victory and Kester and I can do parkerizing.
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Now that I have seen the pictures, I am going to have to agree with my fishing buddy and say blast and parkerize it and call it done.
I am close to Victory and Kester and I can do parkerizing.
I'm interested. PM on the way.
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