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Where to find a 6.5 Arisaka?
Getting the itch to expand a little into more odd firearms, and I would really like to add a 6.5 Arisaka to my collection. Was thinking of the Type 30 but know very little about these and I am open to suggestions. Does anyone know of a shop with one?
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J&G Sales always tend to have a few Arisaka's in stock. Might be arguably pricey to some folks, but as long as your not looking for an excellent/near mint rifle, I'd say their prices are fair for commercial standards.
As of today I know they got two Type 30's listed on their site, but both are considered "Training Rifles", which could mean they're unsafe to shoot or they're decommissioned service rifles that just have training school stamps on them, so caveat emptor. |
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I have a T38 carbine I'd let go, 1912 I think. PM me if curious. PAX
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Oh that is so cool! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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FYI.
Steinel Ammo makes/sells 6.5x50mm Arisaka 140gr SP ammo. |
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One other variant is the Type I "eye" Carcano in 6.5.
Out of my collection, the Type 30 "hook safety" is my favorite. Mine has lots of caricatures stamped in the wood even under the receiver. The Type I is pretty bland. Maybe $400 in VG+ shape so it's the cheapest of the 30, 38, and 44 group. Neat history of where it came from, and where it was found in the Japanese theatre. When you take a 6.5mm and 7.7mm rifle to the range, you'll see immediately why the Japanese army switched calibers. The 6.5 is fun, light recoil and pleasant to shoot. The 7.7 kicks like it's counterpart the Mauser, and after a few rounds it's time to put it back in the car. Note, there's a Navy Type 35, but I've been looking for years for one and haven't seen one for sale yet. Good luck in your purchase. |
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Arisaka’s were not always pricy, including the carbines but times have changed and supply dwindled. Fun shooters especially if you reload. The Queen of the lot after the Sniper would be the Paratrooper. A lot of History in the Guns from the Most Brutal Theater of Operations during WW2, carried by a True Warrior Society.
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Arisakas are definitely jumping in prices. Minty/matching Type 99s with the Mum and all the goodies (A/A sights,dustcovers, slings) have sold for $3,000 on gunbroker. Got me entertaining the idea of selling mine.
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Only one I know of is a Type99 at Turners / Chino but it’s 7.7mm. This location frequently has clean C&R’s. Gunslinger Auctions has a Type38 missing the firing pin plus a couple of 99’s and Last Ditch $300-400 range???
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I just met a fella who has a vast collection of the Japanese artifacts. Uniforms, helmets, swords, flags, rifles and pistols. I picked up a T38 bayo and Jap army flag. He has a ton of Nazi and Nam stuff too. I took pictures of some of the uniforms but they're on my phone and I don't know how to get them out. PAX
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I kick myself for passing on one of these - passed on a pristine, but duffle cut one multiple times back in the day for dirt cheap. If only for the historical record.
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Funny thing, I opened up the safe and I had to move a rifle out of the way to get to the one I wanted.
As I was holding it I realized it wasn't the rifle I thought it was - it was a Type 38. I honestly don't remember buying it, I know last year I only bought two pistols and I've been in that safe dozens of times. Anyway OP, if you get the chance try Stockton Gun Exchange, Barnwood in Ripon or Markley's in Watsonville.
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Proxybid auction houses get on their mailing list.
Little Johns also has several currently listed. Shooter or collector grade? Difference in pricing. Our local gun stores in ABQ, NM aren't open for shopping only transfers, but one usually has several Arisakas in stock, has the largest inventory of used and C&R's probably in NM. I've got 2 Type 99's, one a relatives bring back, a Type 38 and Type 44. Because they are rarely shot I don't bother with reloading. I've stocked up when Graf & Sons or others get the ammo in stock. At one point I was desperate for 7.7 ammo so bought a box of reloads at a gun shop some years ago in NV.. Turned out to be Crap, ended my session with a misfire, after 4 rounds, opened bolt, bullet stayed in bbl and powder all over the follower and magwell, inspected the rest of the rounds, split cases, uneven seating of bullets, gave up on reloads. And NO I have no intention of reloading, no room, no time. |
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If you are serious about investing into a Type 38, I have some advice and suggestions that could help out with you.
Adding on to a few people who have said it before, please do not buy a Type 38 Arisaka Trainer. The 'Trainers' were meant to only take lower pressure blanks, not live rounds. (The trainers were also one of the few contributing factors to why you hear people talk about the Arisakas being garbage, or how it will explode in your face.) If you are curious to know the difference, the bore of a trainer is typically a smooth bore, and may have stock markings or stamps that indicate it was issued to a school, or is a training rifle. Type 30s are more of a older model made in the beginning of the 20th century. The Type 35 and Type 38s are a successor of this rifle. Harder to find, but if you intend on collecting, a Type 30 will be harder to find. (Type 35s are the hardest to find as far as I know) There are also 2 variants of the Type 38s, one is the Type 38 which is 4'2", the other is a Carbine length at ~3'2". I don't believe there's a huge difference in terms of part availability and sort, but if you're looking for a shorter rifle to fit in your safe, a Carbine length Type 38 would be a better fit. I recommend looking for a Type 38 with a good bore, not one that is worn out. Having the 'mum' intact adds some collective value if that fits your fancy. I usually recommend people if they can invest some extra money for one with a mum, it would be good in the longer run if you ever plan on selling it. Manufacturers (Such as Kokura, Nagoya, Mukden, etc) may too, but you'll find that Kokura and Nagoya are more common manufacturers for the Type 38. There are some desired manufacturers because of the rarity of finding specific ones. Not many people sell the Arisakas locally, but I do seem them a lot on places say, Gunbroker. Sometimes its just finding a good condition Arisaka, and if they are willing to ship to CA. You will find most Type 38s will go for 350 (Very lowball end for a shooter) up to 1000 depending on the condition and rarity. Some are just overpriced that you will want to pass up on those. I find 400-600 to be an average price for Type 38s. As for Ammo, I've been in a little pinch of trying to find ammo in general. If you can, I would suggest getting into reloading, and save all of your 6.5 Japanese brass (Kinda no brainer in my opinion.) If you intend on buying factory rounds from Norma, or Steinels, expect to pay about 1.35-1.60/round. On a last note, I have a Type 38 'Carbine' rebuilt by a Royal Thai Arsenal from thailand. I like the Carbine length Type 38s in terms of ergonomics and handling. I am also restoring a Type 38 from a rusted receiver with a failed attempt of a sporterized barrel, to a full functioning Type 38 that works smooth and great. I wouldn't suggest restoring one If you have other questions, I'm happy to also answer them! |
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