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Below is a post I made in the OC thread in the Concealed Carry Info forum. Usually cross-posting is bad form, but I think the folks reading this thread will find it worthwhile:
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All I know is the Sheriff of Mendocino County thanks us for having a CCW and carrying a concealed weapon. AND, he issues for GC of "Self Defense" or "Personal Protection" which we (wife and I) have used for the past 15 years or so successfully.
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Uploaded the updated Table with more info as discussed/requested above.
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Also, what is the tiny green island at about 7:30 from LA County? Dan |
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Santa Barbara Isl. (Small Green) and San Nicholas Isl. (Bigger Green). Both are green since they are part of Ventura County. All the rest of the Channel Islands are Red since they fall under either LA or Santa Barbara Counties.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=...72608333775134
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There... I got us up to 10%
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There's a few, but they tend to hang closer to Catalina and San Clemente due to the larger number of recreational boaters.
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FYI, I'm not sure illegals are "prohibited persons". Wasn't there a Court ruling about that last year?
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The KCSD Web Sight states the following: Quote:
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Updated the Table to link to an online version that clickable hyperlinks. Hyperlinked map coming soon.
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(1) The Sac Bee calls counties where 65 - 100% of adults are Dems "liberal counties" and ones where 50% - 65% are Dem "conservative counties." NOT A SINGLE COUNTY IN CA HAS A REPUB MAJORITY!!! (2) Do NOT confuse the state average of CCW issuance (3/1,000 adults), with our national average of CCWers (6.06% of adults, per John Lott, PhD in June 2016). 6.06% = ~61/1,000 adults, off of the scale of that graphic. Thus NOT A SINGLE COUNTY IN CA ISSUES ANYWHERE NEAR THE NUMBER OF CCWs AS THE NATIONAL AVERAGE!!! The closest is Shasta at ~43/1,000 -- almost 1/3 fewer than the national average. In some states, like IN, they average 15% of adults. That's 150/1,000 and would require a scale more than 3x as tall as the one used.
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Bump.
Oct 2016 updates posted.
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Thanks for the heads up! Fixed!
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It would be nice if it were true that 13+ percent of the residents of Butte County had permits to carry. It would be nice to be able to post at the entrances to Butte County that it is the most armed County in the State. But, unfortunately that is simply not the case. While we have a pro gun sheriff and there are approximately 3000 permits, your population numbers appear to be off by a factor or 10.
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Thanks!
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He was not. The number in my table in post #1 (for his county) was missing a number. 225,000 vice 25,000.....
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Not easy to keep up with this.
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I have to give credit to the original producer of the map (I used his last update as the basis for my first version) which was kept on the now defunct CalCCW forums. He apparently retired and moved up to the mountains and the map languished for over a year with no updates. I decided to pick it up after creating the table, and CGN member Paladin contacted me and has been assisting me. He assisted the original producer (who's name I do not know) with it when was at CalCCW. He's been a huge help and we continue to work on improving and updating the map as a team of sorts (he's been at it far longer than I and has lots of background information on how things have changes over the years). The table was just my own idea since I, like many here, had the same questions about CCW statewide and in various counties. I just decided to start putting together stats from existing sources to get a better picture of what the actual numbers in the state looked like. Now if only I could get it made into a sticky....
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It's always possible. We look at most counties published policies and then comments from folks here on CalGuns to fill in the gaps. If you come across anything in other forums or other sites that implies that the color of any county would be different from what we have it as, please let us know. The map is done in my spare time and we can't look everywhere.
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I saw a figure somewhere that VC is now up to almost 2,600 CCWs in 2016?
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If you can find the source I'd like to see it. Sheriff Dean has been slowly but steadily issuing as long as you meet the morals requirements and pass the the background check.
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"The best gun is the one you'll have on you when you need it the most, the one you know how to use, the one that goes BANG every single time you pull the trigger. Whether that gun cost you $349 or $1,100 it's worth every penny if it saves your life, or the life of someone you love.” -Tim Schmit, CCW Magazine July 2015 NRA Lifetime Member : CalGuns Lifetime Member : GOA Lifetime Member |
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I was at a school board meeting while they were discussing SB707 and whether they would/should allow CCW holders to carry on school campus with the Superintendent's permission.
Tulare County Sheriff was in attendance and mentioned that there were 13,000 CCW permit holders in Tulare County. I understand the graph shows 2015 stats and this meeting was in September of 2016, but I wouldn't guess that there is that much of a rise in issued permits in the last 9 months. Maybe there is, maybe I misheard him. |
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"The best gun is the one you'll have on you when you need it the most, the one you know how to use, the one that goes BANG every single time you pull the trigger. Whether that gun cost you $349 or $1,100 it's worth every penny if it saves your life, or the life of someone you love.” -Tim Schmit, CCW Magazine July 2015 NRA Lifetime Member : CalGuns Lifetime Member : GOA Lifetime Member |
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Please state which counties you would think would readily issue but are not and I will tell you what I know about them.
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Whenever there's a major terrorist attack where a CCW could help, we CGNers should ourselves and encourage our family & friends to call anti sheriffs and say we want them to issue CCWs more liberally. 42 states do it and have no problems. 45 out of 58 CA counties readily issue and also have no problems. The courts allow, do not mandate accepting SD for GC, so they're not a barrier either.
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Really good map and table you've made here.
However, I need to add some info. In Kern self-defense alone is not an acceptable good cause. You must give more or you will be denied. So, Kern should be light green not dark. It's still easy to get a CCW and they want to issue them. It just takes a tad more thought than self-defense. I am a CCW instructor in Kern and this info was straight from the deputy in charge of the CCW program for Kern. Some IAs might issue for self-defense only, but those would be the police chiefs in some individual cities. Even at that, I don't know any. The number of active licenses in Kern in 2016 was 8,014. This was taken off the sheriff's website: http://www.kernsheriff.com/AdminServ...s/default.aspx
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I am interested in the "*Redding" in Shasta county. I live in Redding and got my CCW issued through Shasta county. I am unaware of the city issuing CCWs at this time. Shasta (including Redding as far as I know) is a solid green. Is there info that you have found that I should know about?
Edit: Also, I forgot to thank you for the awesome work putting this together. Last edited by scottyb; 01-02-2017 at 7:21 PM.. Reason: Addition |
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I plan on removing Redding in the upcoming January 2017 Map update. Let me know if you hear anything different. It's hard to keep track of who does what sometimes! Quote:
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"The best gun is the one you'll have on you when you need it the most, the one you know how to use, the one that goes BANG every single time you pull the trigger. Whether that gun cost you $349 or $1,100 it's worth every penny if it saves your life, or the life of someone you love.” -Tim Schmit, CCW Magazine July 2015 NRA Lifetime Member : CalGuns Lifetime Member : GOA Lifetime Member |
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I had heard sometime last year that Kern wanted some kind of justification, and really liked anything related to employment.
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Perhaps change Dark Green to: "CCW easily obtainable for Regular Citizens" or some such...
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"The best gun is the one you'll have on you when you need it the most, the one you know how to use, the one that goes BANG every single time you pull the trigger. Whether that gun cost you $349 or $1,100 it's worth every penny if it saves your life, or the life of someone you love.” -Tim Schmit, CCW Magazine July 2015 NRA Lifetime Member : CalGuns Lifetime Member : GOA Lifetime Member Last edited by baggss; 01-02-2017 at 7:58 PM.. |
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