Do you know of anyone who has gotten a CCW with a 5150 on his record? Or a denial?

[mbee1776]

I'm wondering about how common denials for medical history are and if the mental health of a non-prohibited person invalidates otherwise "good cause". Is there an appeal?

[Gnzrme]

You are a prohibited person for 5 years if you have been on a 5150 and if you have been placed on a 14-day hold (5250), you are a lifetime prohibition. There is a form that is issued when you are placed on a 72-hour hold that does have a process defined for appealing that decision, but I have never heard of anyone going through that process and I think that it would be unsuccessful.

[M1NM]

No one would sign off and expose themselves to the liability if someone relapsed and took their own life or that of others.

[71MUSTY]

Welcome back MBEE where you bin??

[mbee1776]

Originally Posted by Gnzrme

You are a prohibited person for 5 years if you have been on a 5150 and if you have been placed on a 14-day hold (5250), you are a lifetime prohibition. There is a form that is issued when you are placed on a 72-hour hold that does have a process defined for appealing that decision, but I have never heard of anyone going through that process and I think that it would be unsuccessful.

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Originally Posted by mbee1776

I'm wondering about how common denials for medical history are and if the mental health of a non-prohibited person invalidates otherwise "good cause". Is there an appeal?

Originally Posted by M1NM

No one would sign off and expose themselves to the liability if someone relapsed and took their own life or that of others.

Where did you read or hear this information? What agency? Feel free to answer the questions in the original post sometime.

Originally Posted by 71MUSTY

Welcome back MBEE where you bin??

Thanks. Busy with life. I'm laughing at my 2016-era avatar and signature.

[Dvrjon]

Originally Posted by mbee1776

I'm wondering about how common denials for medical history are and if the mental health of a non-prohibited person invalidates otherwise "good cause". Is there an appeal?

Very few denials get posted, but in most instances when a denial has been reported on these boards, the denial notification isn’t sufficiently specific to isolate the root cause of the denial.

Some examples:

San Bernardino: “…do not meet the criteria for moral character and the sheriff will not provide details.”, and, Another SB: “… denied for CCW based on moral character.”
Ventura: “… notified that my application had been denied because of “Moral Character.””
Orange County: “… denied my CCW due to "Moral Character 26150".”
Sacramento: “… Denial reason was not eligible.”

The statutes don’t provide an appellate process, but most IAs provide one. The difficulty is one has a limited time frame and no specifics to challenge.

[mbee1776]

Originally Posted by Dvrjon

Very few denials get posted, but in most instances when a denial has been reported on these boards, the denial notification isn’t sufficiently specific to isolate the root cause of the denial.

Some examples:

San Bernardino: “…do not meet the criteria for moral character and the sheriff will not provide details.”, and, Another SB: “… denied for CCW based on moral character.”
Ventura: “… notified that my application had been denied because of “Moral Character.””
Orange County: “… denied my CCW due to "Moral Character 26150".”
Sacramento: “… Denial reason was not eligible.”

The statutes don’t provide an appellate process, but most IAs provide one. The difficulty is one has a limited time frame and no specifics to challenge.

Great reply, thanks!

[mike_in_ca]

Originally Posted by mbee1776

See:




Where did you read or hear this information? What agency? Feel free to answer the questions in the original post sometime.



Thanks. Busy with life. I'm laughing at my 2016-era avatar and signature.

I know someone who works for a department who does backgrounds for new hires and the subject of CCWs came up.......anyone with a 5150 in their past has about a 99.9% chance of not getting a CCW issued.

[RickD427]

Originally Posted by Gnzrme

You are a prohibited person for 5 years if you have been on a 5150 and if you have been placed on a 14-day hold (5250), you are a lifetime prohibition. There is a form that is issued when you are placed on a 72-hour hold that does have a process defined for appealing that decision, but I have never heard of anyone going through that process and I think that it would be unsuccessful.

Please note that only some, and not all, WIC 5150 detentions produce a five year firearms prohibition.