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Old 02-13-2020, 1:08 PM
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My brother back in Oklahoma retired about a year ago. He’s 45. 23 years patrol experience with a good size / professional department. Did a year as a SRO. Probably 10 years FTO. He doesn’t have any supervisory experience. never tested for SGT, etc.

Basically his wife got pregnant with kid number 4 and got breast cancer in the same year. He was needed at home, and it was financially beneficial to retire at that point. Wife’s better now, can help with the kid. Kids not as helpless as they are day one, etc.

He’s working for small School PD only pays like 35k. Lot of freedom but super bored and not much money. What’s out there? Though not a detective he’s been a cop forever, is very good at finding people and investigation.

What kind of job would you be looking for?
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Get a casual, part time adjunct job teaching at the academy or local community college in AJ?
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He can teach at a private college that has a criminal justice program. If he has a concealed carry permit, he can apply for an Executive Protection job which normally pays more than a uniformed security guard. Also, the US Marshals contract with private security companies to do transports which pays pretty well. Also, some counties hire retirees for Sheriff's Department security officers that are at the front doors of the courts manning the metal detectors. There are private companies who do background investigations as well which he can apply for.

These are all jobs that the former LEO's I know have gotten.
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Do all police agencies have the same retirement system?

Example - LAPD and LA Sheriffs have a different system.

Max out in one- switch to the other agency and start a new pension

At 44, it’s a possibility in OK as well
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Do all police agencies have the same retirement system?

Example - LAPD and LA Sheriffs have a different system.

Max out in one- switch to the other agency and start a new pension

At 44, it’s a possibility in OK as well
So he’s out of the “Oklahoma pension system” now. He’s currently working for a department that has a different pension system but it’s pretty low pay. Looking at Sherriff’s office, which pays more and has its own retirement system, but he’s pretty bummed about the prospect of working the jail / court house. No take home car.

I keep thinking he should be able to work for some Oklahoma investigative body. But four kids 1, 8, 12, and 15 - Reason he never promoted was it’s always been important to his wife for him to not go back to nights etc.
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Does it have to be in Law Enforcement? Sounds like he has a TON of options. Hell, at this point I'd look at ANYTHING other than LEO. There's just a world of good stuff out there to do.
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Does it have to be in Law Enforcement? Sounds like he has a TON of options. Hell, at this point I'd look at ANYTHING other than LEO. There's just a world of good stuff out there to do.
Suggestions? That’s a big part of what I’m asking. Need ideas what to look at
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Donut taster/tester?
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I know a lot of retired LE that are now investigators for DA's offices, or the private sector.
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Lots of oil jobs that pay big money going on from TX to SD.
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Fraud investigator, Dmv investigator, DA investigator, executive protection, training, academy teaching, driving instructor, insurance industry possibly, cyber crime/financial crimes private industry jobs, Constellis/USMS court or inmate transport gigs, firearms training/armored, that’s all off the top of my head.

I wound up taking a gig out of left field that pays pretty well and hours are good... still working on rehabbing myself and would like to transition back to something more fulfilling but he may be surprised what pops out at him. For instance, as others have mentioned there may be work related to the oil industry as a part time or full timer where they are really looking for someone dependable, easy to teach who may not have any aspirations of taking their training and bouncing after six months, , honest, and drug free. Whatever that particular gif may be I don’t know; but it definitely pays to cast a wide net if he isn’t in a hurry
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Do they have code enforcement where he is at? A couple of my co-workers went for county jobs enforcing local codes....people living in RV's illegally, environmental crimes, that kind of stuff. Up in the northern counties here it is not a bad gig. Some others went for TSA spots at small airports.
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My brother back in Oklahoma retired about a year ago. He’s 45. 23 years patrol experience with a good size / professional department. Did a year as a SRO. Probably 10 years FTO. He doesn’t have any supervisory experience. never tested for SGT, etc.

Basically his wife got pregnant with kid number 4 and got breast cancer in the same year. He was needed at home, and it was financially beneficial to retire at that point. Wife’s better now, can help with the kid. Kids not as helpless as they are day one, etc.

He’s working for small School PD only pays like 35k. Lot of freedom but super bored and not much money. What’s out there? Though not a detective he’s been a cop forever, is very good at finding people and investigation.

What kind of job would you be looking for?
District Attorney Investigator. Maybe ?
College / University PD?
Security at Federal Courts ?

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I don’t understand the promotion thing... and that’s Okay.

I don’t think sergeants work different hours.

It’s not like a detective who is in call certain days of the week.


Any how, a friends dad retired as a Brooklyn beat cop. Went to work for a big bank as a fraud investigator. Makes more and enjoys the work.

Not sure if the big banks need a Midwest investigator who can’t be away from home. It sounds like 2-4 day trips would not work for him.

Maybe a local large credit union needs a fraud investigation person.
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At age 44, he is still young to be able to get an LEO job pretty much anywhere. Except, after 1 year, he needs to check his POST certificate is still valid.
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My neighbor retired from the local PD after over 20 years in narcotics. He's now a marshal at the courts in a neighboring town.

I have a buddy in Philadelphia who retired from Philly PD after 29 years. He now works for the DOJ as a grant writer liaison for police departments in his region sto they can get the gear and equipment and funding they need.

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Get on with a rural Alaska PD, 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off. They pay for your travel to and from the location for your work schedule, you can live out of state, he would not have to move. You catch a plane from your local area, fly to alaska, work your 2 weeks, then they fly you back home for your 2 weeks off and repeat. 12hr shifts. They pay well. https://www.cityofkotzebue.com/verti...er_Updated.pdf
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Just because someone was a cop, doesn’t mean they can “teach” at the college level. Just say’n.
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Just because someone was a cop, doesn’t mean they can “teach” at the college level. Just say’n.
Why not? And what exactly do you think college level is? Because I can tell you, it is not what most people think. Hell, a large fraction of college students can not read a wall clock with a minute and hour hand, no joke, for real. They also can not tell you where the majority of states are on a map or tell you what the 3 branches of government are. This is a sad FACT. Back in the 1700s, we had Americans graduating from Harvard at the age of 18 and able to quote Plato in Greek and Latin. Today they can barely read or do simple algebra. I went to a community college for 2 years then to a Cal State University, and I can tell you, there were a few really sharp professors but a whole hell of a lot of bull ****ters.
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Nowhere on that job posting did they mention paying for travel to and fro.Hell id look into that for myself if thats the case lol
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I don’t understand the promotion thing... and that’s Okay.

I don’t think sergeants work different hours.

It’s not like a detective who is in call certain days of the week.

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I’m sure he’d have a better answer than I would. But his department worked so that if you promoted you went back to nights / low man on the totem poll / bottom slot on bidding for shifts. I worked for an OK Pd for about 3 minutes a long time ago, and it was the same thing. He tested for SGT, like once before he got married and they took the guy with more seniority. After the kids started showing up It was off the table for whatever reason. Tons of qualifications, taught all sorts of stuff, won awards - ie he wasn’t lazy at all. He just feels his supervisory experience is lacking
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Lots of oil jobs that pay big money going on from TX to SD.
What type of job? Never thought about oil, wouldn’t know what to look for
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Why not? And what exactly do you think college level is? Because I can tell you, it is not what most people think. Hell, a large fraction of college students can not read a wall clock with a minute and hour hand, no joke, for real. They also can not tell you where the majority of states are on a map or tell you what the 3 branches of government are. This is a sad FACT. Back in the 1700s, we had Americans graduating from Harvard at the age of 18 and able to quote Plato in Greek and Latin. Today they can barely read or do simple algebra. I went to a community college for 2 years then to a Cal State University, and I can tell you, there were a few really sharp professors but a whole hell of a lot of bull ****ters.
Looks to me that you just described some college “professors” to a Tee. Good job.

...and I agree.

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