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Old 08-13-2019, 9:12 AM
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Default Thoughts on a surrender amnesty for firearms?

After the recent killing of the CHP officer, I wanted to get the thoughts and opinions of the LE members here on a gun amnesty during encounters with law enforcement. The gist of the law would be if during an encounter with police, you inform the officer of a firearm and surrender it, you don't catch the charge.

This would be akin to a "buyback" where you can turn in anything without being prosecuted.
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Old 08-13-2019, 9:15 AM
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So. Gangster getting pulled over just has to declare he has a gun and gets a free pass?

Absolutely not.
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Old 08-13-2019, 10:32 AM
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So he can get off with no charges then go acquire another one when it's convenient? I think I get what you are aiming for in that it would take the threat of imprisonment away, and thus the motivation for shooting it out. But someone like this is rarely only going to have only one thing they could be charged with, i.e. the gun.

We could avoid all possibility of violent encounters if we gave criminals an "all come free" pass on everything if they come clean. No.
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Old 08-13-2019, 10:50 AM
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I never liked "no question asked" gun surrender program.

I know an LEO who got in trouble after he wrote down the license plate number of a person who turned in a gun. I don't know why he wrote the number, though.
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So. Gangster getting pulled over just has to declare he has a gun and gets a free pass?

Absolutely not.
^^^THIS^^^

"Free Pass" just leaves the criminal free to steal another gun. What do think that criminal will do next?
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After the recent killing of the CHP officer, I wanted to get the thoughts and opinions of the LE members here on a gun amnesty during encounters with law enforcement. The gist of the law would be if during an encounter with police, you inform the officer of a firearm and surrender it, you don't catch the charge.

This would be akin to a "buyback" where you can turn in anything without being prosecuted.
WTF? This seriously sounds like something that would come from Newsom, or Leland Yee, or countless other extreme liberal dems.
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After the recent killing of the CHP officer, I wanted to get the thoughts and opinions of the LE members here on a gun amnesty during encounters with law enforcement. The gist of the law would be if during an encounter with police, you inform the officer of a firearm and surrender it, you don't catch the charge.

This would be akin to a "buyback" where you can turn in anything without being prosecuted.
Do you know that guy who shot the three CHP officers was not a p**sed off member of society, but a member of an outlaw motorcycle club (OMG)? Not an outstanding member of society
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So. Gangster getting pulled over just has to declare he has a gun and gets a free pass?

Absolutely not.
This.
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This is exactly the feedback I was looking for. Thanks to all for sharing.

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Officer Andre Moye Jr. was murdered by a gang member who was prohibited from owning a firearm.

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His convictions include disturbing the peace, vandalism, battery, stalking, unlawful possession of a firearm, assault with a deadly weapon and corporal injury on a spouse. He was convicted of burglary charges and attempted second-degree murder with a sentencing enhancement for use of a firearm in Los Angeles County in 1994. He was sentenced to 12 years in state prison, according to the California Department of Rehabilitation and Corrections, and was paroled in 2004.
...but the talking heads and politicians blame the gun...

Officer Moye...we have your watch.
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After the recent killing of the CHP officer, I wanted to get the thoughts and opinions of the LE members here on a gun amnesty during encounters with law enforcement. The gist of the law would be if during an encounter with police, you inform the officer of a firearm and surrender it, you don't catch the charge.

This would be akin to a "buyback" where you can turn in anything without being prosecuted.
You really didn't think this whole thing through... did you?
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how bout a police escort
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so in essence your suggestion is that a law-abiding citizen applies for a CCW and can be turned down and not able to carry a firearm, yet a criminal or even non-criminal is running around on the streets with a firearm on their person and they can walk clean. Not plausible
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- criminals must be punished
- increase punishment, do not decrease it
- giving 'free passes' will simply embolden the criminal mind to think he can get away with it again, and take it further

- I personally want to see a 2-strikes and you're out law... 3 strikes it too lenient








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Old 08-16-2019, 8:10 PM
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This “idea” gives a de facto “CCW” permit to any monster-crook that wants to carry a gun in the car, only to be able to surrender it immediately without going to jail. Dumb idea.
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Old 08-17-2019, 11:07 AM
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So. Gangster getting pulled over just has to declare he has a gun and gets a free pass?



Absolutely not.


Agree. Being more lenient just to avoid the potential threat makes the law weak and powerless while strengthening those who break it. No way.
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Prohibited person gets hooked up. Notify DA of co-operation. Let the system handle it. No freebies for bad guys. LEOS not judges or juries. Do not circumvent the system.
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After the recent killing of the CHP officer, I wanted to get the thoughts and opinions of the LE members here on a gun amnesty during encounters with law enforcement. The gist of the law would be if during an encounter with police, you inform the officer of a firearm and surrender it, you don't catch the charge.

This would be akin to a "buyback" where you can turn in anything without being prosecuted.
WHY NOT? CA IS HEADED THERE ANYWAY. [sarcasm intended]

A reminder of AB-109,...

prop 47,...

prop 57,...

(3 Strikes) became a joke shortly after implementation in 1994, because of DAs playing the system for personal gain,...Then, prop 36 in 2012 gutted it. https://www.courts.ca.gov/20142.htm

Beginning January 1, 2018, mandatory firearms enhancements are stricken. https://www.courts.ca.gov/20142.htm

And as we read this, leftist politicos are working to restore voting rights to felons, even those still incarcerated, so they can vote from prison.
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After the recent killing of the CHP officer, I wanted to get the thoughts and opinions of the LE members here on a gun amnesty during encounters with law enforcement. The gist of the law would be if during an encounter with police, you inform the officer of a firearm and surrender it, you don't catch the charge.

This would be akin to a "buyback" where you can turn in anything without being prosecuted.
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Prohibited person gets hooked up. Notify DA of co-operation. Let the system handle it. No freebies for bad guys. LEOS not judges or juries. Do not circumvent the system.
Neglects to acknowledge that "some" DAs are party to "circumvent the system" for personal gain. Before cases ever get to a Judge or Jury.
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