COVID Levels Hovering Near 2020 Peak, WHO Urges Any Booster

[TrappedinCalifornia]

I thought the basis of the discourse was whether the vaccine(s) and the booster(s) actually targeted or provided some protection against the dominant variant. Instead...

COVID levels are so high, they?re hovering near 2020?s initial peak, as the WHO urges those at high risk to take any booster they can get their hands on

U.S. COVID infections are hovering near levels of the pandemic's first peak in 2020, and approaching the Delta peak of late 2021, according to wastewater surveillance and modeling by forecasters.

It's yet another sign that while the official pandemic state may be over, the days of COVID are far from it.

Viral wastewater levels are not far behind all of the pandemic's 2020 peaks except for one - the initial peak of March 2020, which they?ve already surpassed. And they lag just slightly levels seen during the deadly Delta peak of late 2021, according to Biobot Analytics, which monitors such data for the federal government.

A forecast issued this week by Jay Weiland, a leading COVID modeler, came to the same conclusions. On Thursday, Weiland estimated that 650,000 Americans are becoming infected daily, with 1 in 51 Americans currently infected with COVID...

So... It's not about reported illnesses, deaths, etc. It's about what the models suggest? Worse. It's about simply doing something, effective or not?

...Vaccination, in addition to early diagnosis and access to care, can prevent severe disease and death, she said. WHO officials encouraged those at high risk for poor outcomes from the virus, like the elderly and immunocompromised, to obtain a booster ASAP - even if it's not the latest XBB formula being rolled out in some parts of the world.

Vaccinating and boosting with any available version "remains vitally important to saving people's lives now," officials said...

I mean, this makes a great 'selling' point...

...While the newest jabs are tailored to a dying strain of Omicron, they?re still expected to protect against severe disease and death from currently circulating strains, the vast majority of which are members of the XBB viral family...

Put another way, the new 'boosters' actually target an old, dying strain but we think they should provide some protection against the current versions... we hope... Or, maybe not...

...Once again this fall and winter, no one variant may gain a major advantage over others, experts say. But variants with the "flip combo" likely to become dominant and pose this season's largest issue.

What's more, it's likely that highly mutated variant "Pirola" BA.2.86 picks up "flip" at some point, Rajnarayanan said, making it more of an issue - and potentially granting it the ability to spread more effectively.

In short, it's looking like what I said about these vaccines early on; i.e., that I was waiting to see if it was going to be a one and done or if they were going to be like the so-called 'flu shots' which are often problematic for many individuals in terms of actually providing protection from the flu.

[M76]

[sigfan91]

I had a thought a few nights ago.

What if someone started to use those quick tests kits for the wuhan virus every single day, for an entire year, whether he shows any kind of symptom or not? He would not be able to see the result until after the one year period just so he would not be influenced if it comes back positive yet he shows no symptoms. A second party would record the result of the tests. The test subject would keep a journal on how he feels every single day. At the end of one year, compare the result of the tests with his journal.

That would be an interesting test. I bet he would be positive between 20% to 30% of the days yet he would report nothing out of the ordinary.

[Mayor McRifle]

Originally Posted by sigfan91

I had a thought a few nights ago.

What if someone started to use those quick tests kits for the wuhan virus every single day, for an entire year, whether he shows any kind of symptom or not? He would not be able to see the result until after the one year period just so he would not be influenced if it comes back positive yet he shows no symptoms. A second party would record the result of the tests. The test subject would keep a journal on how he feels every single day. At the end of one year, compare the result of the tests with his journal.

That would be an interesting test. I bet he would be positive between 20% to 30% of the days yet he would report nothing out of the ordinary.

This is the sort of thing you think about at night? No wonder this temporary subforum still exists.

[therealnickb]

Bull shat!

[The Duke]

Originally Posted by sigfan91

I had a thought a few nights ago.

What if someone started to use those quick tests kits for the wuhan virus every single day, for an entire year, whether he shows any kind of symptom or not? He would not be able to see the result until after the one year period just so he would not be influenced if it comes back positive yet he shows no symptoms. A second party would record the result of the tests. The test subject would keep a journal on how he feels every single day. At the end of one year, compare the result of the tests with his journal.

That would be an interesting test. I bet he would be positive between 20% to 30% of the days yet he would report nothing out of the ordinary.

My granddaughter was forced to test two times per week during her 2021 elementary school year. She tested positive two times and missed more than tree weeks of school. Never had a single symptom. Never transmitted "it" to anyone else in the house. My daughter was forced to pay the school $50 per test if she wanted the 'privileges of her daughter being able to attend 'in-person' schooling as opposed to the online shat that was being offered. What a scam.

[kingransom]

Yet not a word about a single person dying from COVID. That shot must really be safe and effective

[hermosabeach]

Do we get $50 gift cards again?
Do we get a shake shack burger again?

[sigfan91]

Originally Posted by Mayor McRifle

This is the sort of thing you think about at night? No wonder this temporary subforum still exists.

Are you vaccinated or something?

[Epaphroditus]

Wastewater surveillance is a boondoggle. Don't believe a single thing about it - not for viral targets.

[TrappedinCalifornia]

BTW: Juxtapose (from the OP article)...

...The World Health Organization continues to receive reports on concerning COVID trends, including a growing number of countries reporting an increase in infections, hospitalizations, and ICU admissions, Maria Van Kerkhove, technical lead for COVID-19 response, said at a Thursday news conference.

Vaccination, in addition to early diagnosis and access to care, can prevent severe disease and death, she said. WHO officials encouraged those at high risk for poor outcomes from the virus, like the elderly and immunocompromised, to obtain a booster ASAP - even if it?s not the latest XBB formula being rolled out in some parts of the world...

To what the WHO said 10 days ago... WHO chief urges halt to booster shots for rest of the year

Rich countries with large supplies of coronavirus vaccines should refrain from offering booster shots through the end of the year and make the doses available for poorer countries, the head of the World Health Organization said Wednesday, doubling down on an earlier appeal for a "moratorium" on boosters that has largely been ignored...

Tedros had previously called for a moratorium on boosters through the end of September. But wealthy countries - including Britain, Denmark, France, Greece, Germany, and Spain - have begun or are considering plans to offer third shots of two-dose vaccines to their vulnerable people such as the elderly or those with compromised immune systems.

If you're one of the 'vulnerable' and you want to take a chance on the so-called 'vaccine,' I have no problem. However, for the World Health Organization to call for a moratorium on boosters so that the so-called 'vaccine' can be distributed around the world, then, 10 days later, to have an WHO official calling for those 'at risk' to obtain a booster ASAP...

The fact that the more developed countries 'locked in' contracts for so-called 'vaccines' and boosters has been widely known for 3 years and, all of a sudden, the WHO Director-General is "appalled," yet, 10 days later, WHO officials are urging people to get 'any' rendition of the booster?

To be "appalled" means to be affected by strong feelings of shock and dismay. If the WHO Director-General is only now 'appalled' by what the public has known for several years and, yet, other WHO officials are urging 'any booster,' me thinks there's either a 'language problem' for the WHO Director-General or the organization needs a new Director-General or, dare I suggest, follow the money given that...

...WHO reports that U.S. assessed and voluntary contributions together represented approximately 15% of WHO's total revenue in the 2022-2023 biennium, making the U.S. was the largest donor to WHO during that period...

Might that be 'suggestive' of something if you are among the 'conspiracy theorists?'

[sd_shooter]

Originally Posted by sigfan91

Are you vaccinated or something?

Fully vaxxed, boosted, masked

[wpod]

Originally Posted by sigfan91

I had a thought a few nights ago.

What if someone started to use those quick tests kits for the wuhan virus every single day, for an entire year, whether he shows any kind of symptom or not? He would not be able to see the result until after the one year period just so he would not be influenced if it comes back positive yet he shows no symptoms. A second party would record the result of the tests. The test subject would keep a journal on how he feels every single day. At the end of one year, compare the result of the tests with his journal.

That would be an interesting test. I bet he would be positive between 20% to 30% of the days yet he would report nothing out of the ordinary.

I never trusted the Health Dept ot the home tests.
Like the Lottery, a certain percentage of tests will be manufactured to give the desired result.

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[ibanezfoo]

I haven't been following any of that stuff. I don't trust any reports about levels. I don't trust anything about any of that. Its all 100% pure grade A certified BS.

[glassparman]

Nope. No shots.

I just had Covid for the second time. The first time was in 2021. I was feeling crappy for a few days but not as bad as the Flu I have had in the past.

Just another day.

[SAN compnerd]

I feel we must all act to throw off the COVID conditioning which was clearly part of the effort to 'manage' the 'pandemic'.

Stop talking about COVID. Stop testing. Stop telling people you or someone you know tested positive for COVID.

It's the flu now, plain and simple, and the constant reuse of the conditioned phrasing "COVID" needs to end.

It's not some big scary virus. It has much the same infection fatality rate as the flu, about 99.97 people under 60 survive without issue.

New study mentioned in this sub speaks to the lie about asymptomatic spread, there is NONE, that was a lie to scare the public into getting the vaxx.

Pfizer people testified to an EU commission that the vaxx does not stop transmission, it wasn't tested for that.

We also know that it doesn't offer great protection, we see the fully vaccinated and boosted catching it again and again. Even the CDC recently admitted that those with prior vaccination or COVID infection are more likly to catch this new variant (I question the science behind the statement on those with prior infection, I don't think they did any studies to come up with that, like so much of the other crap that was not science based).

We have to stop obsessing over this mild infection as if it is all the scary things we were lied to about in 2020, because it is none of that, and by obsessing over it we give it/them power they should not have.

It's the flu for crying out loud, treat it as such and stop the conditioned behaviors that were/are designed to curtail personal/individual rights. We inflict unneccsary harm on ourselves by continuing this insanity.

[LBDamned]

If I've never been vaccinated and therefore no boosters... how many jabs do I need to get up-to-date?... is there a multi-needle gun to pin cushion me in one visit? Or maybe a full auto dart gun?

Regardless of answer - seems like too much trouble... nevermind.

[Squatch]

And yet we don't have refer trucks full of dead bodies this time. Weird.

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[Scota4570]

The statement that covid is coming back is a lie. The number of hospitalizations and deaths caused by covid continue to be insignificant.

The US and Canada are the only countries that is recommending routine boosters. Given the past deceptions of the people in charge that is a clue.

The current strains of covid are not a threat to your health.

The booster is 40X more likely to cause hospitalization then covid at this time.

I am now observing people around me passing of odd causes that I believe are directly caused by C19 vaccines.

All cause deaths continue to be above normal.

[Dan_Eastvale]

Wastewater. So what?

When I was a kid we all ate the Polio vax which had weakened LIVE Polio virus.

Wastewater was found to contain the live virus. And no major alarms were raised.

Yet Polio was pretty much eradicated.

[CartridgeCalls]

I just had Covid last week and tested positive for 4 days. My wife got sick as well but never tested positive for covid with at home test or at the doctor.

[sigfan91]

Originally Posted by CartridgeCalls

I just had Covid last week and tested positive for 4 days. My wife got sick as well but never tested positive for covid with at home test or at the doctor.

Try to test 4 days when you’re healthy to see if the test comes back positive. Have your wife test at the same time also. Just randomly test yourself. I bet you will get positive results around 20% to 30% of the times when you feel perfectly normal.

[Scota4570]

They are saying covid in on the rise due to waste water testing.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8386095/

"Wastewater surveillance for pathogens using reverse transcription-polymerase chain reaction (RT-PCR) is an effective and resource-efficient tool for gathering community-level public health information, including the incidence of coronavirus disease-19 (COVID-19)."

PCR huh? How many cycles? Does the probe react to spike protein (vaccination)?

https://www.statnews.com/2023/01/11/...ealth-covid19/

"The wastewater metric NWSS wants to be able to provide is an estimate of case level from sewage data: how much viral RNA corresponds to one person with Covid. The current models for that number are so imprecise that the range is too huge to be useful, said Kirby. "

"Another flaw in the current NWSS system is that the numbers will fluctuate depending on who handles the samples and analyzes the data, said Matus."

I'm calling BS on this technique right now.

They have to perpetuate the lie or face the music.

[ibanezfoo]

Originally Posted by Squatch

And yet we don't have refer trucks full of dead bodies this time. Weird.

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They aren't forcing people on ventilators and destroying their lungs this time either...

[Flyron]

Our family all beat Covid-19 by taking 5 days of Ivermectin tablets. We had 4 bottles of them from our last trip to India which we took for Malaria there.







https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...r_covid19.html

[TrappedinCalifornia]

Originally Posted by Flyron

Our family all beat Covid-19 by taking 5 days of Ivermectin tablets. We had 4 bottles of them from our last trip to India which we took for Malaria there.

Ya'll must've had mild to moderate cases and, thus, would have been as well off taking a placebo, assuming you didn't die as a 'secondary outcome' of the disease. Don't you keep up with your Government pronouncements? From March this year by the NIH...

...The study populations in most of the reviewed trials were patients with mild to moderate COVID-19 who had a relatively low risk for disease progression, and the number of deaths was low (as expected). In these randomized trials, completely excluding an effect of ivermectin on COVID-19 disease progression is difficult because the trials were not powered to detect differences in secondary outcomes, such as death. However, data from these trials do not provide evidence that the use of ivermectin is effective for the treatment of COVID-19. For this reason, and because other medications now have demonstrated clinical benefit for the treatment of COVID-19, the Panel recommends against the use of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19...

You clearly favor and rely on 'old' information, from, say, 2022... Regular Use of Ivermectin as Prophylaxis for COVID-19 Led Up to a 92% Reduction in COVID-19 Mortality Rate in a Dose-Response Manner: Results of a Prospective Observational Study of a Strictly Controlled Population of 88,012 Subjects

...The present study provides in-depth results on the prospective study of ivermectin as prophylaxis for COVID-19 in Itaja?, located in Southern Brazil. Particularities of Itaja? included its dynamic population due to the presence of an overwhelmingly large port compared to the size of the city. This explained why the city was one of the first in the state to reach 1,000 cases in 2020. In the past, the city experienced some of the highest rates of HIV infections in Brazil, partially substantiated by being a port city, an "independent" predictor of a higher prevalence of HIV infection...

Wait... Huh? From the first piece quoted above...

...Trials have failed to find a clinical benefit from the use of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 in outpatients. In TOGETHER, an adaptive platform trial conducted in Brazil, there was no apparent difference between the ivermectin and placebo arms for the primary outcome of risk of emergency department visits or hospitalization (14.7% vs. 16.4%).14 In addition, there was no statistically significant difference between the ivermectin and placebo arms in mortality (3.1% vs. 3.5%). In COVID-OUT, a randomized factorial trial, the use of ivermectin when compared with a matched control (5.7% vs. 4.1%) did not reduce occurrences of a composite outcome of emergency department visits, hospitalization, or death...

Their own reference... the highlighted "14"... is a piece entitled... A five-day course of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 may reduce the duration of illness

...A 5-day course of ivermectin was found to be safe and effective in treating adult patients with mild COVID-19. Larger trials will be needed to confirm these preliminary findings...

Uh...

[bigbossman]

Originally Posted by sigfan91

Try to test 4 days when you?re healthy to see if the test comes back positive. Have your wife test at the same time also. Just randomly test yourself. I bet you will get positive results around 20% to 30% of the times when you feel perfectly normal.

Just so. The tests are rife with problems, and are basically useless.

[Dan_Eastvale]

And try a Tetanus booster just for the hell of it as well.
May be more effective and definitely safer

[TrappedinCalifornia]

Originally Posted by bigbossman

Just so. The tests are rife with problems, and are basically useless.

This is one of the problems with the media in that they report, but do little follow-up and move so quickly to the next 'hot story' that you sometimes wonder if you even saw what you saw.

The two, biggest problems I'm aware of is their ability to determine based on a 'moment in time' (about a 5-day window) and too many false positives. That's without discussing whether laymen can properly use them to begin with. There's also the fact that the usable time frame for the tests, coupled with the 'limited access' issue surrounding many of the home tests means their use is, in many ways, problematic; particularly as something to be 'relied' upon.

Originally Posted by Dan_Eastvale

And try a Tetanus booster just for the hell of it as well.
May be more effective and definitely safer

I had one of those back in February; my first 'Tetanus booster' since 1998.

I hope, based on your metric, that means I'm 'safe' now.

[OlderThanDirt]

The WHO are a bunch of liars. I?m sure any respiratory illness is being classified as covid. I?ll just park this inconvenient detail here.

Doctors admit they can't tell Covid apart from allergies or the common cold anymore - highlighting how mild virus has become