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03-15-2023, 10:27 AM
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How to fix these gouges?
Hi everyone,
Hope this is the right forum for this. A friend installed the sight on my CZ 75 SA. The sight did not go in easily and he ended up using a hammer and punch to get it in. As you can see, he missed a few times. I hate the way this looks and I'm wondering what my options for repairs are? Is this a cerakote situation? File/sand/then coat? CGW said they could help but I'd rather find a local shop if possible. Appreciate any advice. Thanks! 
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03-15-2023, 11:02 AM
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Thanks. Never have Ray Charles do your gunsmithing.
My concern is rust but it's been about 4 years without issue. I'll just shoot it. That's the cheapest option!
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03-15-2023, 11:34 AM
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Get a new slide and let a competent gunsmith install sight.
Saw 1 for sale on ebay for ~ $40 That was painful to see, I can fix almost anything but even I think it would be ugly after any attempt at repair.
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03-15-2023, 2:15 PM
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If you are that concerned. To do it right you would need to refinish the slide.
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03-15-2023, 2:19 PM
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Your “friend” didn’t cover up the area before pounding on it.
+1 on sight pusher for future guns. For now, you can have it sanded down and cerakoted. That would help as a form of rust protection.
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03-15-2023, 2:45 PM
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"Just Shootz it."
Zsa Zsa Gabor :  Just my opinion but it's a (Nice) tool, not a safe Queen, so as soon as you fix this cosmetic issue there might be another that you notice or even possibly cause yourself. The cheapest solution would be trying to dab the scratched areas with one of those Birchwood Casey instant blue Sharpie type markers.
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03-15-2023, 2:51 PM
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that is no fixing that
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03-15-2023, 3:03 PM
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03-15-2023, 3:17 PM
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If I can get a new slide for just $40 that's way cheaper than one hour with a gun smith. Thanks!
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03-15-2023, 4:21 PM
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Black marks-a-lot and let it roll. Lesson learned, you get whay you pay for.
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03-15-2023, 7:28 PM
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03-15-2023, 11:10 PM
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"you don't need a sight pusher" is the mantra of the cheapskates.
I offer you this thread as why sight pushers are worth the cost. Here is a nice sight pusher if you ever feel yourself wanting one of the best: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1849806 Quote:
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03-16-2023, 1:06 AM
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Just let your friend TIG weld that up, grind it back to shape and refinish. Good way to learn.
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03-16-2023, 4:14 PM
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Find a shop that does exotic slide work, tell them you want the slide lightened, especially those marks removed, and sell the slide for a 300% markup on CalGuns!
J/K - sorry to see that. Easiest way, get a decent used slide, keep that one in the drawer or sell it. Might come in handy some day.
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There are some people that it's just not worth engaging. It's a muzzle BRAKE, not a muzzle break. Or is your muzzle tired?
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03-16-2023, 5:42 PM
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Good thing this "friend" didn't have a dremel nearby...
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03-16-2023, 6:07 PM
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03-16-2023, 11:18 PM
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Delrin is your friend. In a pinch without a pusher, it wont do that to the metal.
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03-17-2023, 2:26 AM
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03-17-2023, 9:40 AM
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That’s what you get for going the cheap *** route. And your friend isn’t much of a friend if he gave you the gun back with that kind of damage.
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#27
03-17-2023, 11:41 AM
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Remember Primitive Pete from shop class? I didn't know he worked on guns too.
 
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03-17-2023, 12:05 PM
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I've hammered in $200 sights on $400 slides and left no marks that could not be removed with a rag and some oil. Judicious prep to the dove tail and sight are key. then all it takes is gentle persuasion with a brass or delrin punch Last edited by kcstott; 03-17-2023 at 12:11 PM..
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03-17-2023, 12:27 PM
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Did you or your friend test fit the sight?
If it wasn't going in at least halfway into the notch without much effort, you could've sanded the bottom of the rear sight and test fit again. This would have been much easier to install and less likely to lead to significant damage. Just my opinion...
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03-17-2023, 12:36 PM
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Judicious prep and a sight pusher is even easier than a hammer and punch because you have so much more control. Sight pusher is also safer as it's not possible to hit the slide if you are not doing any hitting at all. The only people that argue that a hammer and punch is as good as a sight pusher are the ones that refuse to buy a sight pusher. Lots of people get work done with inferior tools. Some people realize the value of good tools and they buy them. Why would you want starrett punches and a plvmb hammer when you could just get cheap ones from harbor freight?
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03-17-2023, 12:41 PM
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03-17-2023, 1:40 PM
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Ray Charles….. or Stevie Wanderer…..
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03-17-2023, 6:22 PM
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Anthropologists have determined that some form of hammer/pounding tool. Is most likely the first tool that ancient humans invented.
And craftsmen will likely agree that. To this day, it is still the most misused. 
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03-18-2023, 2:42 PM
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03-18-2023, 3:56 PM
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03-18-2023, 4:32 PM
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if I did that to any of my friend's property, or for that matter, anyone else's property, I would feel obligated to replace it completely and keep the mistake as reminder not to do that anymore - but that's just me I guess
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03-18-2023, 10:06 PM
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03-19-2023, 7:51 AM
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This. I have mucked up more sights and slides with a pusher than with a punch. The damage with either usually happens when removing OEM sights. If they give much of fight, they get cut out on the mill. If the replacement is PROPERLY fit, punch or pusher will do just fine. Most have no idea how to measure a dovetail. H&H and Westly Richards do OK with punches and files...
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03-19-2023, 12:18 PM
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Make sure you all study, there will be a test later...
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