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Old 09-13-2018, 5:24 PM
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so... i'm relatively new to firearms, sales, etc...

so person wants to buy ammunition from me UNTIL i tell them i wanted to meet at the police station near my home for transaction.

is it not legal to sell ammunition private party?
what are some reasons, this is a bad idea?
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Old 09-13-2018, 5:26 PM
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so... i'm relatively new to firearms, sales, etc...



so person wants to buy ammunition from me UNTIL i tell them i wanted to meet at the police station near my home for transaction.



is it not legal to sell ammunition private party?

what are some reasons, this is a bad idea?


I believe you both need to have a curio and relic FFL -03 to do ppt of ammunition.


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Ammo sales must be conducted through a licensed ammo dealer, pretty much any FFL dealer. No face to face ammo sales, trade's ect.
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Why would you meet at the police station anyways? That's just strange.
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I would not want to do an illegal ammo transfer in front of a police station either, but I would have told you how to do it legally.
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Why would you meet at the police station anyways? That's just strange.
Its a common place for Craigslist transactions, auto sales etc. This way, the parking lot is under surveillance and in close proximity to LEO.

But, not for PPT of gun stuff.
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I imagine the request for police station was for safety concerns. Many police stations have an area explicitly for online sales eBay or otherwise where a person can feel safe making a sale in person. However with the new ammo regulations that makes it a moot point, for that use.
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Our local police station has a special area for conducting online transactions. But I agree with the others that say you can no longer buy/sell ammo unless you’re at an FFL or you are both exempt (LEO, FFL03/COE, etc)
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i've ppt a firearm... does it require any additional fees to sell ammo through an FFL?
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.. does it require any additional fees to sell ammo through an FFL?
Fee is $5 to transfer ammo.
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Omg just meet at gun shop or parking lot or strip club and to the transaction. Stop over thinking these infringements.
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i've ppt a firearm... does it require any additional fees to sell ammo through an FFL?
No. They arent even required to make a record of it. They just have to facilitate the transfer. I say just do it in a parking lot somewhere screw the law.
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Imaginge meeting in front of the police station and inspecting guns and ammo in front....hmmm, anyone see a problem with that? No! It's a good way to get shot, and not by the buyer!
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No. They arent even required to make a record of it. They just have to facilitate the transfer. I say just do it in a parking lot somewhere screw the law.


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so... i'm relatively new to firearms, sales, etc...



so person wants to buy ammunition from me UNTIL i tell them i wanted to meet at the police station near my home for transaction.



is it not legal to sell ammunition private party?

what are some reasons, this is a bad idea?

Just lmao, I can’t believe people actually do this ****.

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what if the person i was selling to was a police officer setting me up, or something.
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so... i'm relatively new to firearms, sales, etc...

so person wants to buy ammunition from me UNTIL i tell them i wanted to meet at the police station near my home for transaction.

is it not legal to sell ammunition private party?
what are some reasons, this is a bad idea?
IIRC, you may sell up to 500 rounds of ammo per month without a dealer or a permit.

I'm sure someone will be along shortly confirm/correct my recollection.

As for meeting at the station. I've met there with a seller (ammo cans) before. No big deal.
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No. They arent even required to make a record of it. They just have to facilitate the transfer...
CA DROS submission for ammo transfers starts on 07-01-2019. [PC 30352]
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Who needs what? I have a little extra for my friends in need. I'll leave $5 on the door of the cop shop. This **** it just nuts.
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Oh yea because they are just trolling walmart parking lots looking for people conducting private transactions of ammo. Stop letting the government scare you.
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Oh yea because they are just trolling walmart parking lots looking for people conducting private transactions of ammo. Stop letting the government scare you.


No. Because they are trolling pro-2a websites looking for people like you who advocate law breaking. That's probable cause. But if you have nothing to hide in your internet or other behavior, and just encourage others to break the law, then who am I to call you out?

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So a $5 store transfer fee plus $25-$30 DROS?

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IIRC, you may sell up to 500 rounds of ammo per month without a dealer or a permit.

I'm sure someone will be along shortly confirm/correct my recollection.

As for meeting at the station. I've met there with a seller (ammo cans) before. No big deal.
No - pretty sure it's a max of selling 500 per month and ALL sales must go through dealer.
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what if the person i was selling to was a police officer setting me up, or something.
That trans action would be legal, as LEO's are exempt from the ammunition transfer law.
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That trans action would be legal, as LEO's are exempt from the ammunition transfer law.
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No - pretty sure it's a max of selling 500 per month and ALL sales must go through dealer.
I actually did a bit more searching. And my understanding is that selling 500 or less rounds per month, FTF, is just fine...at least for the rest of this year.

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1a- advertise on the private ammo sales forum here, if you are selling at 17 or 18 cents per round it should go pretty quick.

2a- private sales are limited in 2018 to 500 rounds per month, excluding intrafamity and ffl sales.

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I actually did a bit more searching. And my understanding is that selling 500 or less rounds per month, FTF, is just fine...at least for the rest of this year.
Nope. Your quoting a post nearly a year old for your research.

30312. (a) (1) Commencing January 1, 2018, the sale of ammunition by any party shall be conducted by or processed through a licensed ammunition vendor.
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Nope. Your quoting a post nearly a year old for your research.

30312. (a) (1) Commencing January 1, 2018, the sale of ammunition by any party shall be conducted by or processed through a licensed ammunition vendor.
Yes, sorry, that post was over a year old. However in March of this year, an official bulletin from the office of the AG was released.

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So, as usual, the liberal douchebags in "charge" have created another cluster*** of laws that seem to contradict each other.

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so person wants to buy ammunition from me UNTIL i tell them i wanted to meet at the police station near my home for transaction.
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what if the person i was selling to was a police officer setting me up, or something.
Then they probably would not have called off the deal when you said you wanted to break the law right in front of the place where they worked.

Only a cop or the world’s dumbest criminal would want to conduct an illegal sale at a police station. Apparently, your buyer was neither.
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