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DOJ to reopen BB rifle registration Jan 2022
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I doubt they will be willing to drop the BB requirement unless the courts order it, which they will not
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Alrighty lets see how this applies to me
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period and were not able to successfully register. Taking a recent purchase, turning it into an AW, and then trying to register it is self incrimination.
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Hard pass just like all the other times. No thanks. Featureless still best option. They are simply trolling because hardly anyone registered before. For.. a .. reason. For those that entered and missed the window, good for you. You will be able to sell it some day.
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"the period to register eligible assault weapons will reopen at 9 a.m. PST on January 13, 2022, and close at 9 a.m. PST on April 12, 2022."
So this is a three month / 90 day window? Half of January February March Half of April.
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Not my Daisy's
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When I was still in California I had one weapon, a Saiga-12 that I was trying to do the right thing and get it registered. Took all the pictures etc etc etc, waited waited, finally would look on the site and there would be a "you need to fix this" and resend pictures.
So I did, then they would come back and say "please check the box" which I had already done. This went on for over a year. Telling me to redo something that had already been done. The only redo that seemed valid was they wanted a "better" picture of the BB. Finally gave up since we ended up moving and the first thing I did was remove that stupid BB. I hope everyone else has had better luck with the process. God love Arizona! |
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They already know what you have from the 4773s they aren't allowed to keep
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The Rifle on the Wall "“[S]cientific proof” of both gun-rights and gun-control theories “is very hard to get”; therefore, requiring “some substantial scientific proof to show that a [firearm] law will indeed substantially reduce crime and injury” is tantamount to applying strict scrutiny to, and almost certainly will lead to invalidation of, the law." - Kamala Harris Lawyers and their Stockholm Syndrome |
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They (CA DOJ) think that I have 9 BBRAWs. But, in reality, I do not have any, because none of my ARs have bullet buttons.
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Makes me remember, I did not register my preban 1970's era Colt SP1 until the "Grace Period" was created by Feinstein. Three years after I registered I got a letter from the DOJ stating the new Attorney General nullified the "grace period" and I was given 30 days to surrender my rifle to the DOJ or remove it from the state.
I miss that rifle, I sold it at a Reno gun show. I never trusted Feinstein, after that I didn't trust DOJ or the AG either. |
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So after watching all the people that “that did not submit paperwork/pictures wrong to get a knock on the door/raided I would want to sign up for this???? Sold my guns that could be in question even though they were 100% compliment . Gestapo raids **** that why put yourself on their list
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For the record, I would not BBAW any of those either.
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The Rifle on the Wall "“[S]cientific proof” of both gun-rights and gun-control theories “is very hard to get”; therefore, requiring “some substantial scientific proof to show that a [firearm] law will indeed substantially reduce crime and injury” is tantamount to applying strict scrutiny to, and almost certainly will lead to invalidation of, the law." - Kamala Harris Lawyers and their Stockholm Syndrome |
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This is for people who can affirm under penalty of perjury that they tried, but were unable due to technical problems with the website, to register their bullet button-equipped firearms 2017-2018. Your post doesn't make any "since".....geez.
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Trolling? They were sued and agreed to settle because they would lose the lawsuit. They are being forced to do this.
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They are doing this because they were FORCED to as part of the settlement they agreed to (in order to avoid LOSING and paying substantial legal fees and having other penalties) as part of a settlement in a case in which the DOJ was sued due to their horrible website which crashed and had other problems thereby prohibiting people from registering. They've had an AW registry for over two decades. Not going door to door yet. But sure...i'm sure you're right this time....they're going to arrest everyone who registers,
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Huh?
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This registration window is only for people who owned/possessed BBAW from 01-01-2001 to 12-31-2016 and were unable to complete their registration process for those BBAW before 07-01-2018. DO NOT attempt to register a make/model banned assault weapon. DO NOT attempt to register a firearm that you did not own before 2017. DO NOT attempt to register a semi-auto firearm that does not have a "bullet button" style magazine release and restricted features.
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I'll post this as a reminder for people who may not remember https://youtu.be/vrn7ZsBgcwQ
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FTDOJ and all their registration scams.
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WHOEVER does this is a DUMBAZZ....go featureless or just get a danmed hexmag or something.
Stop whining and giving up your info on what you own...... you deserve what you get.
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Um...I guess you haven't bought a handgun in CA since 1993 or a long gun since 2014 since you seem so abhorred by the idea of the government having your info and knowing what you have. I guess you don't have a CCW, either. Too bad.
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Can't make a AR/AK Pistol Featureless.
Unless you turn it into a Rifle, which kind of defeats the whole purpose of it being a PISTOL.
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....and also precludes its ability to legally return to pistol status due to CA SBR laws.
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Look at all the hoops Quiet posted.
Do you think even 50% of those who attempt to register will be in compliance with the actual requirements to register? I don't. I think this will turn out to be one of the most successful "gun busts" in CA DOJ history. |
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Telling an oppressive, corrupt, and neo-socialist California government exactly what weapons you have, in detail, with photographs, might be the dumbest thing you can possibly do. They're talking about putting unvaxxed in camps. What do you think they're going to do to scary, orange-man AR owners in a few years? Wake up and smell the tyranny. We no longer have any safety in numbers.
Last edited by chihuahua69; 10-16-2021 at 7:38 AM.. |
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Gee Whiz guys, I just put in a CMMG 22lr bolt carrier and 22 lr Black Dog mag and forgot about all of this Bool Snit. Then 21 June 2021 I went auf weidersehn and moved OUTA kaw lee pforn yuh. Oh yes, its back to Real AR status now. Maybe I can sell the CMMG Kit to someone in Cali just maybe.
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It won't be.
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Are non-bullet button (ie, standard magazine release) lower receivers that were purchased before 2017, and were attempted but failed to be registered due to the CADOJ's website problems, also eligible to be registered during this new 3-month window starting 1/13/2022?
Or is it only pre-2017 ARs with bullet buttons installed? I keep reading references to the "BBAW" registration, but unless I'm missing it, nothing in the DOJ's website states that the "AW" must have a bullet button. Only that it must have been owned prior to 2017, qualifies as an AW according to DOJ's definition, and had been attempted (but failed, due to DOJ's technical web problems) to be registered prior to the 7/1/2018 deadline. So, what prevents non BB rifles legally purchased prior to 2017 and meeting the other attempted-registration requirements from also now being registered? Thanks for any clarity on this. Last edited by papa zulu; 01-12-2022 at 11:01 PM.. |
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