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Old 08-01-2019, 5:42 PM
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Default Shootin' inside my Living Room...what are your recommendations?

If I want to practice shooting "something" indoors...what is the easiest/cheapest route to go about doing this?

I'm thinking airsoft pistol with target trap?
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get a laser trainer for your real guns, unless it is the thing shooting out you like.

you could use a smoke machine or something so the laser beam will be visible instead of just the dot for an instant.
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I can't speak from experience but I was watching Guns & Ammo TV the other day and they had some BB/Pellet guns that seemed pretty cool. They were modeled after real guns and they said that they had almost exact weight and feel to the real deal. I was thinking about getting something like that too. I don't remember the manufacturer though but when I tried to google it there are actually several similar. I'm not sure what is a good brand or not, I might have to see if I can find that episode online or something.
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Cardboard box
Add padding- Old carpet works well Carpet shops have free samples

Many airsoft pistols have small amounts of energy
So maybe even an old towel will both stop them and prevent bounce back
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They have replica airsoft pistols with blowback that simulates recoil. Many of the popular guns are replicated almost exactly. For example, here is a CZ Shadow 2.

They're pretty accurate at competition distances.

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If I want to practice shooting "something" indoors...what is the easiest/cheapest route to go about doing this?

I'm thinking airsoft pistol with target trap?
You can make your own pellet trap out of a big box that is the size you like... a Savior Equipment Classic short (24") rifle case shipping box is the one I will use next. Typically stuff with magazines or whatever is around... tape 8.5"x11" paper targets to it and neon circle stickers... shoot it till it is caving in the front and duct tape it... till it seems too full of BBS... they last forever. I use that more than a steel trap that I bent up pretty good the first few times I used it with various air guns. I have the most fun with a Steel Force that has a foregrip weapon light and Holosight on it. Shooting in the dark with the light / holosight can be fun. As long as you are a decent shot and you don't mind confetti and BB's on your carpet... lock up the pets.
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I had an old Auto Air II that has bit the dust... thinking about getting one of those Glock CO2 guns. The Crosman .357's are a decent cheap pistol too.
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don't even need a store bought target trap. cardboard box with a towel lining the backstop.

easy and cheap. and you can most likely re-use some of the BB's as it won't deform as much from hitting the towel vs a metal target trap setup.

just make sure the towel is of decent quality. don't use a shop rag and not expect some BB's to make it through after a while as the fibers come apart.
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You can cleanup and recover BB's from the floor pretty easy with a bowl and a good strong magnet.
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I got the stack of textbooks idea from Mythbusters stack of phone books (I believe).

Had some G.E. textbooks/workbooks. Give it a good 8 inches worth, should stop .22 LR, no problem, so it will surely work on pellets. Also they sell pellet traps.

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https://www.itargetpro.com/ use code Bongino to save like 20%

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Find a better grade spring loaded airsoft pistol modeled after a real pistol in a style you like. The cardboard box with padding is a good idea as a pellet trap. I have gone away from co2 powered air guns just for the reason that when the seals have gone bad which will happen finding someone who can reseal them can be a problem from a time, distance and cost perspective.
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THIS... lets you use your real platform for practice. Gets a bit pricey if you want to shoot multiple calibers, but I think it is a great solution for real-world practice.
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I know Sig makes exact replicas of all their guns, exactly for the purpose of practice with plastic bbs. They fit in your holster, and the mags are the same, plus I think they aren't even more then 100 bucks or so
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Find a better grade spring loaded airsoft pistol modeled after a real pistol in a style you like. The cardboard box with padding is a good idea as a pellet trap. I have gone away from co2 powered air guns just for the reason that when the seals have gone bad which will happen finding someone who can reseal them can be a problem from a time, distance and cost perspective.
How does any air powered gun get you away from pressure seals? CO2 gives you hundreds of thousands or shots and at least emulates semi-auto... IMHO hard to beat for the price. The seals I have that went bad were in ancient guns or stored incorrectly and replaceable o-rings like on Steel Storms, etc... YMMV. I have nitro piston and PCP that will get bad seals too. Even PCP pumps will get bad seals. Anything with pressurized gas or air.

Seems like a Airsoft would be fun but maybe not powerful enough and single shot.
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THIS... lets you use your real platform for practice. Gets a bit pricey if you want to shoot multiple calibers, but I think it is a great solution for real-world practice.
I'm not really sure what value this adds to training that regular dry fire practice doesn't.

What are you training with this gadget? Trigger control? You can do that pretty effectively in dry fire. And the majority of accuracy issues come from preingnition push and/or recoil management. Neither of which this will help. Only live fire training will help train these issues.

Sight picture acquisition, transitions, indexing... all this can be effectively trained with straight dry fire. No gizmos needed. Even movement drills, entries and exits are better trained in dry fire.

Then live fire is used for confirmation and to put all these together. Also for accuracy as I mentioned. Practical Accuracy, Doubles, Criss Cross are all great live fire drills to do.

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You can dry fire all you want, but you have no way of knowing whether POA=POI... perfect practice makes perfect.
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If I want to practice shooting "something" indoors...what is the easiest/cheapest route to go about doing this?

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Disclaimer-Check your local laws and ordinances first but...

We used to shoot CB and BB caps from the 22s into a wooden backstop in the fireplace over at my friends house back in the day. From the couch.

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After that we would bust out the revolvers.

Then we would throw something softer in front of the wood and fire those plastic 38 bullets from the primer powered plastic cases.

Works good but not the most accurate things.
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one of the closest replica is the G17 gen 4.


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I'm surprised no one's mentioned the training method the old fast draw guys used to use.

Wax bullets, of course you need more room than an airsoft shooting range but you are able to use the same handgun you would normally use... so you get your same trigger and your normal exact same sights rather than dealing with whatever the airsoft training firearm will give you (which is not anything like that gun you carry).

of course you have to be always cautious because even though it's only being pushed by a primer and it's relatively soft wax, it could still hurt someone.

It works better for revolvers you can make it work in a semi auto pistol you just have to rack the slide each time.
I also heard you can just use those foam ear plugs instead of wax and although they might not shoot as straight or as far it'll give you something being pushed by just a primer and no gunpowder.

( Skip ahead to the 23:00 mark if you just want to see the wax hitting a target.)





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An old Steven’s crack shot and some .22 collibri’s and a decent pellet trap.
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So maybe even an old towel will both stop them and prevent bounce back
This is exactly what I did for my airsoft Glock 26 (used to have G27 on CCW). I took cardboard boxes filled with wadded up packing paper, tacked them to the wall from the inside of the box and had a nice little course of fire in the garage. Could shoot from behind the car and all kinds of different cover. Perfect for a 5 minute training session (or longer) whenever the mood strikes, but definitely don't ever let your family see you and never consent to being videoed as it will confirm their suspicions that you're a little bit wonky.....

Waaaaay fun though.
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Disclaimer-Check your local laws and ordinances first but...

We used to shoot CB and BB caps from the 22s into a wooden backstop in the fireplace over at my friends house back in the day. From the couch.

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This is what we used when i was a kid, although my Dad made us limit it to the garage. Of course, when no one was looking we would load up 22LR, which would often go clean through the backstops and lodge in the wall between the garage and the living room. Oops.

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An old Steven’s crack shot and some .22 collibri’s and a decent pellet trap.
Now that you mention it, I've got my Dad's Crack Shot, which is one of the guns we used for this, in the basement right now along with a few bricks of Colibri. Maybe, I'll bust them out ....and freak out wife and kids!
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I'm surprised no one's mentioned the training method the old fast draw guys used to use.

Wax bullets, of course you need more room than an airsoft shooting range but you are able to use the same handgun you would normally use... so you get your same trigger and your normal exact same sights rather than dealing with whatever the airsoft training firearm will give you (which is not anything like that gun you carry).

of course you have to be always cautious because even though it's only being pushed by a primer and it's relatively soft wax, it could still hurt someone.

It works better for revolvers you can make it work in a semi auto pistol you just have to rack the slide each time.
I also heard you can just use those foam ear plugs instead of wax and although they might not shoot as straight or as far it'll give you something being pushed by just a primer and no gunpowder.

( Skip ahead to the 23:00 mark if you just want to see the wax hitting a target.)





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It's not a good idea to use wax bullets when indoors since primers contain lead styphnate. You end up coating everything in the house with a lead residue.
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