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Old 01-19-2019, 12:37 PM
Chewy65 Chewy65 is offline
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Earlier there was a discussion as to whether the panel decision would be attacked since should it be overturned SCOTUS may grant cert. At the time it was composed of four liberals, incuding RGB, four conservatives, and Roberts. Now it is looking like RGB will be off the court and replaced by another conservative. Given this will the libs really want a win en banc that SCOTUS could reverse with the effect being conservative precedence.
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Old 01-19-2019, 8:23 PM
CCWFacts CCWFacts is offline
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That's the issue they should be thinking about right now. SCOTUS is not a place where they can win, and even an en banc could be a loss for them. This graphic is from Nov. 2018 so it may not be completely up to date, but it shows what's going on at the circuit level:

In the 9th, the en banc panel is randomly drawn, and someone could do the calculation to see what are the odds of getting a conservative panel of 11 judges from the 9th, esp. when all the seats are filled.
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Old 01-19-2019, 8:54 PM
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Here’s a case you’ll want to keep an eye on in the months ahead. Since the decision was handed down in Janus v AFSCME, public sector unions, in particular, have been on the ropes. No longer able to extract union dues (or “agency fees”) from workers and use them for political speech the employee may disagree with, the cash cow has largely ceased giving milk. But unions in Oregon clearly aren’t ready to go down without a fight. Legislators in the Beaver State are now moving forward with a bill clearly designed to subvert the Supreme Court decision and keep money flowing into the union coffers.
The leftists know that if they lose control of SCOTUS and aren't able to stack the court, they can always give a straight-up FU to the bench and simply ignore their rulings.

This puts us right at 1836 on the civil war clock. It's just going to get more dicey as time goes on.

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