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Old 03-10-2021, 10:24 AM
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...but must pick up within 30 days...
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Old 03-10-2021, 5:08 PM
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...but must pick up within 30 days...
Should that go in 12, or 13, or both? Or, combine 12 and 13?

Reference: https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/how-...cs-check-valid

"A NICS check is valid for 30 calendar days for any transaction. The 30 calendar day period is counted beginning on the day after NICS was initially contacted."

27 CFR 478.102

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ETA the effect on customers is 'pick up on or before day 31 from today (date DROS submitted), or re-DROS at your own expense - AND wait another 10 days'.

Example: DROS on March 1, pick up on or before March 31 (March 2-31 is 30 days), but after March 11 at time-of-DROS today', yes?

See also the Julian Date table, http://uop.whoi.edu/UOPinstruments/f...day-table.html, and beware of one-off errors.

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Old 03-11-2021, 8:32 AM
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Should that go in 12, or 13, or both? Or, combine 12 and 13?

Reference: https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/how-...cs-check-valid

"A NICS check is valid for 30 calendar days for any transaction. The 30 calendar day period is counted beginning on the day after NICS was initially contacted."

27 CFR 478.102

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ETA the effect on customers is 'pick up on or before day 31 from today (date DROS submitted), or re-DROS at your own expense - AND wait another 10 days'.

Example: DROS on March 1, pick up on or before March 31 (March 2-31 is 30 days), but after March 11 at time-of-DROS today', yes?

See also the Julian Date table, http://uop.whoi.edu/UOPinstruments/f...day-table.html, and beware of one-off errors.
IMHO combine #12 & #13 with the caveat that the firearm be taken into possession by the registrant w/in 30 days.
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Don't know who needs this but I made one up for my shop. Feel free to use it or provide feedback. I am a fan of dealers helping dealers.

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// Copied from C&R forum. looks like it belongs here, too
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Okay, I haven't bothered to keep up with the current laws on receiving firearms here in California, as there hasn't been much point for the last several years. However, I have both my FFL and a current Certificate of Eligibility. Am I able to receive C&R long guns directly at this point?
Under CA laws...

Exemptions for a CA resident with a valid C&R 03-FFL and valid COE:
1. No 10 day waiting period when acquiring a C&R firearm from a CA FFL dealer. [PC 27670]
2. No 1 in 30 day wait on handguns. [PC 27535(b)(9)]
3. Can be used as proof of CA residency. [PC 26845(b) & 11 CCR 4045 d.1.]
4. When acquiring C&R firearms, it is an exemption to needing a valid Firearm Safety Certificate. [PC 31700(a)(6)]
5. When acquiring C&R firearms, it is an exemption to needing to do a safe handling demonstration. [PC 26850(h) & 26860(g)]
6. Acquiring a C&R long gun inside of CA without needing to utilize a CA FFL dealer. [PC 27966]
7. Acquiring ammunition from another exempt person without needing to utilize a CA DOJ licensed ammunition vendor. [PC 30312(c)(6)]
9. Either online or in person, importing ammunition acquired out-of-state without needing to utilize a CA DOJ licensed ammunition vendor. [PC 30312(c)(6) & 30314(b)(5)]

Exemptions for a CA resident with a valid C&R 03-FFL:
1. Importing a C&R firearm that they physically acquire while outside of CA without needing to utilize a CA FFL dealer. [PC 27585(b)(1) & 27565]


Therefore...

If the firearm is a C&R handgun, then it must be transferred to you through a CA FFL dealer.

If the firearm is a C&R long gun and it is being shipped from outside of CA, then it must be transferred to you through a CA FFL dealer.

If the firearm is a C&R Long gun that is located within CA and not in the inventory of a CA FFL dealer, then it can be transferred directly to you.
^It can be transferred via face-to-face or via shipment to the address listed on your 03-FFL.
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