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Old 06-27-2020, 6:50 PM
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Putting aside the politics and the economy and being forced to wear masks (if that is even possible anymore) is it still:
A) Nothing Burger false pandemic
B) Real Pandemic something burger

Considering we seem to have fallen into two camps.
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Considering that Over 50 Million People die each year, and no one seemed to give a flying fawk, you tell me.
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Putting aside the politics and the economy and being forced to wear masks (if that is even possible anymore) is it still:
A) Nothing Burger false pandemic
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Considering we seem to have fallen into two camps.
Speaking only for myself: I am not panicked, but I am troubled. More so by how fractured we are as a people on basic premises of this disease than the disease itself. It is like seeing our house gradually be engulfed in flames, and everyone is standing around outside arguing about whether we should use buckets or shovels, who was responsible for buying the buckets, and why did I not get credit for buying shovels.
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Speaking only for myself: I am not panicked, but I am troubled. More so by how fractured we are as a people on basic premises of this disease than the disease itself. It is like seeing our house gradually be engulfed in flames, and everyone is standing around outside arguing about whether we should use buckets or shovels, who was responsible for buying the buckets, and why did I not get credit for buying shovels.
Well put . . . Even here on Calguns it seems we are very fractured.
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Well put . . . Even here on Calguns it seems we are very fractured.
That's because too many here swallow the BS shoveled onto us by the mainstream media every day.
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Deaths not at flu numbers yet, so I lean toward nothing burger
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~4% of the world population, 25% of the cases and deaths, we’re doing a great job!
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Op, divide both of your posted #'s by 8 billion and then try to convince me I'm supposed to be concerned
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It is real, and it is a problem, but I don't think it should have been, or continue to be, a world economy destroying problem.
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Putting aside the politics and the economy and being forced to wear masks (if that is even possible anymore) is it still:
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Considering we seem to have fallen into two camps.
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Speaking only for myself: I am not panicked, but I am troubled. More so by how fractured we are as a people on basic premises of this disease than the disease itself. It is like seeing our house gradually be engulfed in flames, and everyone is standing around outside arguing about whether we should use buckets or shovels, who was responsible for buying the buckets, and why did I not get credit for buying shovels.
More like someone's house is on fire so let's turn off the gas and electricity to everyone else's homes so that the risk of spreading is reduced. Oh, and let's spread the fire into nursing homes where the people are less able to escape so as to make it easier to justify shutting off the gas and electricity to those that complain about it not being necessary to shut off the power and gas to their place.
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Putting aside the politics and the economy and being forced to wear masks (if that is even possible anymore) is it still:
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Considering we seem to have fallen into two camps.
Based on your number thatís 5%, Which is pretty bad. 3rd world countries has higher rate.
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More like someone's house is on fire so let's turn off the gas and electricity to everyone else's homes so that the risk of spreading is reduced. Oh, and let's spread the fire into nursing homes where the people are less able to escape so as to make it easier to justify shutting off the gas and electricity to those that complain about it not being necessary to shut off the power and gas to their place.
This has definitely been the Governmentís action and reaction for sure.
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This has definitely been the Governmentís action and reaction for sure.
To be clear. Thatís the beef.

I canít believe anyone here is uncaring or wants people to die. Covid is real. But weíve overacted so badly. Government response has, IMO, done more harm than good.
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This thing seems to have made its way around the entire world for the most part so I would say it has reached "pandemic" status.

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10,000,000 World wide cases. 500,000 Dead!

Putting aside the politics and the economy and being forced to wear masks (if that is even possible anymore) is it still:
A) Nothing Burger false pandemic
B) Real Pandemic something burger

Considering we seem to have fallen into two camps.

Simple math:

500,000/7,800,000,000=.000064 of the population. that's 6 out of every 100,000 of the population.

500,000/10,000,000= .05 or a 5% death rate of those infected and tested.

And the first to go, the old and weak/sick.

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Based on your number thatís 5%, Which is pretty bad. 3rd world countries has higher rate.
That is a 5% mortality rate for those with "confirmed" cases which means the actual mortality rate is much lower due to many cases with little to no symptoms who do not seek medical care or testing.
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Even here on Calguns it seems we are very fractured.
Calgunners are fractured because the Cornholevirus revealed the cowards and control freaks among us.

I despise gun-haters, because I know they would rob me of my right to self-defense if they could. But even the most aggressive gun-banner would never have dreamed of locking me in my house, or bankrupting my business, or taking my job. All things Freakers did without an iota of compunction.

When I was reading about The Troubles in Northern Ireland, I used to be perplexed that LVF members would kill UVF men, or OIRA and PIRA would kill each other, given their common objectives. But now I understand- the old adage is wrong, the enemy of my enemy can definitely still be my enemy. Freaker trash are just as bad as any anti-gunners.
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Hard to say it any better than that.
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Calgunners are fractured because the Cornholevirus revealed the cowards and control freaks among us.

Freaker trash are just as bad as any anti-gunners.
Is this really the case? It would seem our Government on both sides of the isle did this to us. How can one side or the other of us mere Calgunners move the needle?
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So op, what's your point. That there are 407,928 new cases Worldwide, and 8,077 additional Dead since your original post. We can do without your daily updates
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I despise gun-haters, because I know they would rob me of my right to self-defense if they could. But even the most aggressive gun-banner would never have dreamed of locking me in my house, or bankrupting my business, or taking my job. All things Freakers did without an iota of compunction.

When I was reading about The Troubles in Northern Ireland, I used to be perplexed that LVF members would kill UVF men, or OIRA and PIRA would kill each other, given their common objectives. But now I understand- the old adage is wrong, the enemy of my enemy can definitely still be my enemy. Freaker trash are just as bad as any anti-gunners.
Your post got me pumped up!! For the first time in my life I realized that in this country we really could have a civil war. The Freakers will try to control us, there can be no compromise between Freakers and those who support the Constitution.
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OP must have mind tricked you into clicking on thread.
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Yep those are the new numbers.
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I despise gun-haters, because I know they would rob me of my right to self-defense if they could. But even the most aggressive gun-banner would never have dreamed of locking me in my house, or bankrupting my business, or taking my job. All things Freakers did without an iota of compunction.

When I was reading about The Troubles in Northern Ireland, I used to be perplexed that LVF members would kill UVF men, or OIRA and PIRA would kill each other, given their common objectives. But now I understand- the old adage is wrong, the enemy of my enemy can definitely still be my enemy. Freaker trash are just as bad as any anti-gunners.
And where did all that get either the Scotts & English settlers, or the native Irish peoples? Today, any kind of violence is vehemently opposed by both sides. Having had lots of your friends and family killed for no real gains will do that. Having enjoyed a few decades of peace and relatively prosperity (Ireland is today considered one of the top sources of quality, educated labor) will do that, too.

Anyway, good luck with your business. Hope things get better for you soon, and for all of us. It definitely is painful, and the way that pain is being distributed is certainly unfair.
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I'd be willing to bet it's way higher then what's posted. You really think China only had 80k cases.....come on man. I'd be willing to bet you could tack on a few million infected at least from China, who knows how many deaths because they probably murdered the infected they could find.
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The president shows little affinity for ideals long espoused by conservatives: free minds, free markets, free people, or the Constitution.

Trump mimics people with narcissistic personality disorder, long-term pattern of abnormal behavior, exaggerated with feelings of self-importance, excessive need for admiration, and a lack of empathy as he awaits the enthronement.

Hard to tell the bots from the convicts.
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What an idiot.
Maybe he's a savant!

- Government providing Billions of dollars in covid bounties
- Healthcare providers double-counting covid 'cases' as a matter of course
- Hospitals double-counting covid 'deaths' regardless of actual cause
- Fraudulent forecast models being used to this day (recent example: Los Angeles)
- The overall death count is not remarkably different from the Flu, particularly if we reduce the counts by ~25% in order to remove the intentional over-counting
- The true infection rate is far more widespread than has been published
- Far more people are asymptomatic than is being published. This means they're not even sick.
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It's a problem which has been overblown and politicized by the media but also grossly mismanaged by the government from top to bottom.

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