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California 2nd Amend. Political Discussion & Activism Discuss gun rights activism and 2A related political topics here. All advice given is NOT legal counsel. |
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Ah, I'm guessing that there's a similar exemption for ranges selling ammo to patrons that have no AFS record as well? Otherwise that might put a damper on their business if the "standard" check isn't instant.
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Gavin Newsom and Liberal (ehem Socialist Democrats) did.
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http://govnews.ca.gov/gov39mail/mail.php Thank your neighbor and fellow gun owners for passing Prop 63. For that gun control is a winning legislative agenda. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6Dj8tdSC1A contact the governor https://govnews.ca.gov/gov39mail/mail.php In Memory of Spc Torres May 5th 2006 al-Hillah, Iraq. I will miss you my friend. NRA Life Member. |
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http://govnews.ca.gov/gov39mail/mail.php Thank your neighbor and fellow gun owners for passing Prop 63. For that gun control is a winning legislative agenda. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6Dj8tdSC1A contact the governor https://govnews.ca.gov/gov39mail/mail.php In Memory of Spc Torres May 5th 2006 al-Hillah, Iraq. I will miss you my friend. NRA Life Member. |
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(c) Subdivisions (a) and (b) shall not apply to the sale, delivery, or transfer of ammunition to any of the following: (9) A person who purchases or receives ammunition at a target facility holding a business or other regulatory license, provided that the ammunition is at all times kept within the facility’s premises. |
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UG Imports - Fremont, CA FFL - Transfers, New Gun Sales Closure Schedule: http://ugimports.com/closed web: http://ugimports.com/calguns / email: sales@ugimports.com phone: (510) 371-GUNS (4867) Crowdsourced 2A Calendar I AM THE MAJORITY!!! Amazon Links Posted May be Paid Links |
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This is going to destroy out-of-state hunting.
Cousin from Oklahoma: "Wang Lung, I'd like to come out and duck hunt with you." Wang Lung: "OK, but you can't bring any shells with you, that's illegal." Cousin from Oklahoma: "LMBFAO you're nuts, really? Well buy me some and I'll use yours." Wang Lung: "We can't do that, it's illegal. You have to pay a fee and you must be recorded by the State of Kalifornia." Cousin from Oklahoma: "Nevermind." |
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So no "transfers" of ammo on private land where shooting is legal? Or public land where shooting is legal, but that isn't a licensed range facility? Gee, that's not authoritarian overreach, is it?
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These insidious power drunk corrupt Ca politicians will never be defeated in their gun control crusade.. They have one thing the gun community doesn't have and that's UNITY. Even on this site where most everyone is supposedly pro firearm, members do nothing more than bicker and argue amongst each other over and over what should or shouldn't be acceptable gun control laws. Any law restricting, inhibiting, or prohibiting firearm purchasing and ownership is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. "Those who can't be trusted with a firearm can not be trusted without a keeper"!!! In my opinion of reading the writings of the founders about the second amendment exercising your right to bear arms isn't about having a firearm in your home, hunting, CC, going to the shooting range, collecting ect,ect. Exercising your second amendment right is a 100,000 armed citizens descending on the capitol while they're in session and telling them to repeal these worthless ineffective nonsense unconstitutional laws by the end of the day or every single one of them is terminated and every last one of them goes home in a bodybag! The founders sacrificed their land, fortunes, families Their BLOOD and their LIVES for FREEDOM! If alive today they would be utterly disgraced and ashamed of how we have perverted what they created and what we have become as far as free citizens. Todays men are too comfortable and too unwilling to sacrifice anything to ensure liberty and freedom. Government has grown far beyond its intended purposes, insidiously corrupt and unaccountable to the people. They have deemed themselves leaders instead of representatives made careers out of manipulation, oppression and double standards put power and wealth before the people. Politicians are a sickening disgraceful bunch who have no honor or character and no longer deserve to serve at the will of the people. Just a few thoughts from the background noise in my head... y'all have a nice day now.
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What Privacy/Confidentiality law or policy apply to this information? Is the retailer free to pimp your info out to various vendors (or use it themselves) to ID and market to you? I don't recall seeing any "opt out"...
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Hot damn,you could be driving a tractor trailer with 90 tons of 9mm ammo in it from out of state, but if you showed that ID you'd get sent to the front of the line, allowed to pass quickly through, all while the cops and Ag guys bowed and smiled.
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............... It's pretty humorous that you think the state of CA has programmers that have the ability to do that kind of math for their online systems.....
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I have no illusions that come July, 1st of next year their ammo registry roll out will be akin to the AW registry, only more glitches because there are more ammo buyers than AW registrants to start. Fortunately what I had read about caliber/firearm was false, for now. Respectfully Kyle
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So how does this work with me giving my daughter ammo to use with her rifle (I am going to have her get an FSC and then OPLAW a rifle to her next month).
How does it work with my minor aged daughter on public land (not a range) and letting her shoot my guns? What about a bunch of folks that meet on public land and we all bring some ammo but share other calibers with each other as they try each others guns? Firearm loans are legal but not the ammo? What if the other people do not own guns and want to shoot with me on public lands? These examples need to be addressed and shared (and if PC or DOJ letters are available to print and carry with, that would be great) |
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Didn't they tell us they were going to make us regret ever wanting to own a gun? With their new supermajority up there in Sacramento, those people will be going off the deep end. They will make things much worse in the next few years, and the hope is we will be sufficiently cowed that when it comes time to go door-to-door we will meekly acquiesce - just like we always did before.
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In this case, we and the arms are the "things". We are not generally organized or vocal so we will be plucked off one or two at a time and no one will notice. They have the patience, time, media, money, and academia generally on their side...and it appears some on this forum to some degree too. Respectfully Kyle
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The Yellow Vest Movement has spread into other countries, methinks the Globalist Marxist twits may find the pendulum swinging in the other direction, sooner than latter.
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"The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez |
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Wang Lung: "OK, but you can't buy any shells while you are here because you don't have an entry in the AFS and it will cost you $19 and a few days to get one." Non-residents can bring in as much ammo as they want. They just cant transfer it to a CA resident. Already too much talk about this stupid unenforceable law.
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One can only hope. Regardless it won't be soon enough for my liking.
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Yellow makes a great target, even in subdued light. I'm not saying law enforcement would fire on the yellow vests over here, but things happen. But yes, I hope to see a pendulum swing but doubtful over here. Respectfully Kyle
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http://govnews.ca.gov/gov39mail/mail.php Thank your neighbor and fellow gun owners for passing Prop 63. For that gun control is a winning legislative agenda. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6Dj8tdSC1A contact the governor https://govnews.ca.gov/gov39mail/mail.php In Memory of Spc Torres May 5th 2006 al-Hillah, Iraq. I will miss you my friend. NRA Life Member. |
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Until the time comes when EVERY vehicle is stopped and searched thoroughly for contraband you should have no trouble buying out of state and bringing it back home. Damm, what to do with illegals in the trunk?????????????????
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Respectfully Kyle
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Update 22 - 10/5/18: The CA Department of Justice has just released new regulations regarding California Firearms Application Reporting System (CFARS). You can view them here. |
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Its a Pain In the *** to get a Bunch of Ffls in Sf Bayarea to do Ppts now. Some Blatantly say they wont do a Ppt.
Can you imagine If they Re forced to Do.paper work on every ammo.transaction. .Store.large quantities of ordered ammo. I see alot of Ffls Not Carrying ammo. Or Chaging a Arm and leg. |
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No this is the implementation of the same law that has been in effect for the past year.
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I guess I'm still a little confused about the actual system they will be using. They can't use the Federal system so they instead will use a California one. Is this the same system that takes hours if not days to report back?
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Not sure if you were ever from CA, but there is no way (legally) in CA for a private seller to sell a firearm to a private buyer locally in CA without doing a PPT. While the FFLs may be fine, the non-FFLs would have no way to legally buy/sell to each other locally.
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UG Imports - Fremont, CA FFL - Transfers, New Gun Sales Closure Schedule: http://ugimports.com/closed web: http://ugimports.com/calguns / email: sales@ugimports.com phone: (510) 371-GUNS (4867) Crowdsourced 2A Calendar I AM THE MAJORITY!!! Amazon Links Posted May be Paid Links |
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**And here it is, July 1, 2019, all of a sudden there were no ammo sales.**
Im stocking up now to get a buffer on when/if i need to go through this hassle. Cant wait to pack up and leave, go back to the Right Coast, and my Free State. |
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