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Old 07-02-2010, 10:28 AM
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Exclamation Revised Marketplace Rules Rev. 5/11 - READ THESE!

The buying and selling of items through the Marketplace forums is a benefit strictly intended for the community of the Calguns membership. We have established a list of forum rules to be followed in order to post your "classified ads" in our Marketplace. Members who violate these rules may lose access to the Marketplace.

1) All transactions must be in accordance with all State and Federal Laws.

2) Buyers and Sellers assume any and all risks in any transaction.
Our wish is for this forum to be a safe environment for our members to buy and sell amongst themselves; however, can not and will not be responsible for any transactions gone bad. CAVEAT EMPTOR applies here.

3) Your location must be in each new Marketplace thread
Whether WTS (Want To Sell) or WTB (Want To Buy). If your location is not given then your post may be deleted. It is preferred that your location be visible in your profile to sell or buy in the Marketplace. If it is not in your profile it MUST be in every new thread started in these forums. Given the large size of California your location must show at least what County you are in, the City is preferable. We highly recommend that you also include the location in the title of the thread.

4) Limit your ads to one per Marketplace sub-forum.
When posting within these forums we require that you keep all items to one thread per sub-forum only. If you have multiple items to sell, we expect you to include all of them in one thread in the appropriate forum(s) - e.g. all handguns in one thread in Private Handguns Sales forum, etc. Members may only start one active thread per separate Marketplace forum.
'Active' is defined as 'Currently in use and being maintained', if you're bumping your thread it's active. After three calendar days without activity a thread will be deemed 'inactive' and you can create a new thread. If you wait several days and bump your thread it wil be considered active and any threads posted in the intervening time will be merged or deleted.

5) Back to the Top (BTT) is allowed once per calendar day per PST/PDT.
'Calendar Day' refers to the 24 hour period described as 'MM/DD/YYYY' in the Pacific time zone.
This rule also encompasses all the other methods used to surreptitiously "bump" a thread sooner than allowed. Clever 'sales comments' and addendum's that can easily be added to the original post are just some examples. New posts that add content such as pictures or additional information will be considered as a "BTT". The time of last BTT is based on the last post by the original poster. Answers to posted material questions regarding the item may be posted in the thread prior to the next calendar day. Deleting your own BTT post and re-bumping your thread within the same calendar day may result in your thread being locked or deleted.

6) We do not allow for the auctioning off of items in the For Sale forums
Nor do we allow links to auctions and/or sales you may have open at other sites. This forum is for the buying and selling of items within the community of The only exception is for auctions approved by the Calguns Staff in order for proceeds to benefit this site and/or it's membership. This does not mean that you cannot post an item here for sale that you have listed on an auction site. This merely means that you must create an actual post for the item without the link to the auction site. Mention that the item is up for auction, and that you would be willing to end the auction early if a deal can be struck.

7) Edit the title to show your items have been 'Sold'.
Once you have sold the item(s) in your classified ad that you have in the Marketplace, edit the title so it's obvious that the item(s) have been sold'. Do not create a post just to say your item is sold. The moderating team does not delete threads simply because a transaction is completed, so please do not ask.

8) All Commercial sales must be placed in the Commercial Sales forum.
Any commercial sales posted in the Private Sales section will be deleted.

9) For Sale threads must have a price listed.
If you are unsure of what you want to ask for an item list a price you think is slightly higher than what you want to get and simply state, 'willing to negotiate'. You can also add 'OBO' (Or Best Offer) after your projected price. While this means you are willing to entertain offers it is NOT a license to auction, neither does it mean that it is acceptable to take a higher offer after you have agreed to a price and a deal. The listing price must be one the seller would accept if a buyer were to make an offer at that price. Editing the original post to raise the price after an offer at that price has been made creating a 'hidden auction' is unacceptable. The seller may accept an offer higher than the price listed, either from motivated buyer or due to unique circumstance such as special shipping requirements providing no offer or deal has been made at the listed price prior to the higher offer.

10) Thread-crapping.
Commenting on a post in a negative manner, called 'thread-crapping', is not allowed. If you think an item is overpriced or of lesser quality, don't buy it. If you have concerns about the seller PM a Moderator or Admin and we can discuss the matter. Thread-crapping will be deleted, multiple instances of thread-crapping will result in being barred from the Marketplace forums entirely.

11) Discussion and Commentary in For Sale Threads is to be kept to a minimum.
Posting comments such as "Nice gun, wish you were closer", "That's a great deal", "good luck with sale", etc. should be strictly limited. This is a community and wanting to comment positively on a sale or item is an understandable desire. However if it becomes a frequent or regular occurrence it will be seen as a problem and dealt with accordingly. Once in a while is okay, multiple times a day is not. Posts of this nature made by friends or family to circumvent the 24 hour bump rule will be deleted along with the ad. Interpretation of intent will be at the discretion of the Calguns Staff.

12) Third party 'Bumps' and/or acting as a 'Shill' are forbidden.
'Bump' posts or comments such as "bump", "btt", or "tag" posted by a member other than the member who started the thread are not allowed. This rule includes all the methods listed in Rule 5 used to surreptitiously "bump" a thread sooner than allowed. Posts of this nature made by friends or family to circumvent the 24 hour bump rule will be deleted along with the ad. Excessive third party bumping and/or 'shilling' will lead to having your access to the Marketplace terminated. Interpretation of intent will be at the discretion of the Calguns Staff.

13) Do not post your "For Sale" items in someone else's thread.
Be respectful of the other sellers and start your own thread.

14) Question and Inquiries about products listed in an ad.
Most questions and product inquiries can be handled via Private Messages. We expect you to use this feature for all questions and inquiries.

If you feel your question or inquiry involves a material aspect of the item being bought/sold you may post that in the thread. The term "material aspect" means one that dramatically affects the value, function, or operation of the item being bought/sold. Answers to posted material questions regarding the item may be posted in the thread prior to the expiration of the 24 hour BTT rule however the posted answer will reset the 24 hour 'timer'.

All offers other than 'I'll take it' must be made via Private Message. If you send an offer via Private Message, a post of 'offer sent' is acceptable, all other Private Message do not need verification such as 'pm sent' or 'incoming PM'.

15) Discussion threads are strictly prohibited in the Marketplace.
If you have questions or concerns about the Marketplace either address them directly with the admin/moderator staff or place you comments in the "Announcements and Suggestions" sub-forum.

16) Marketplace disputes.
Occasional disputes between a buyer and a seller are inevitable. When this happens notify the Moderators and include a link to the original thread. When one of the Moderators responds be prepared to forward copies of all PM's and emails regarding the transaction. By selling and buying in the Marketplace you agree to abide by the final decision of the moderator team regarding any dispute. Arbitrating disputes is not the job of the moderating team, but if we're asked to deal with a problem we expect you to respect and abide by our decisions. Failing to do so may result in losing access to the Marketplace and possibly the entire forum.

17) iTrader ratings.
Negative feedback should be reserved for transactions where one party has lost either money or goods, or the delivered product is substantially different than advertised. Positive feedback is appropriate for a transaction with good communications between they parties involved and that completes in a timely manner. Neutral feedback is for everything else, including transactions which are not completed. Use the comment section to describe why you gave the rating you did. Retaliatory feedback is not tolerated and should be reported to a moderator. See Rule #16 regarding Marketplace Disputes.

18) PM notification of Staff actions
All of the Moderating Staff are volunteers with jobs and families to take care of in addition to moderating Calguns. Because of this if your thread or post violates a rules you may not be notified by a moderator if your thread is closed or deleted. Simply put, there isn't always time to do all that we'd like to do. If your thread is closed due to premature bumping you must ask a Moderator to reopen it after the 24 hours have passed; the CGN Staff handles numerous issues and will not always remember to reopen a closed thread the next day.

19) Statement Regarding Clones and Replicas:
Clones, also known as Counterfeits, are items that are made to duplicate an existing item and carry the same markings and/or titles as the original item. For example, a clone of a Trijicon ACOG that bears any or all of the same titles or markings as an actual Trijicon ACOG is a counterfeit item and illegal based on both Patent and Trademark violations.

Replicas are items that are similar to and/or function the same as an existing item but do NOT carry any markings or titles in common with the original item. Bushnell, Barska and many AirSoft manufacturers make replicas of the Trijicon ACOG. They look similar to and function in a similar manner as the Trijicon ACOG but they are not marked in any way like a Trijicon ACOG. These are legal items that share a common use and similar appearance but do not infringe on existing Patents or Trademarks.

Due to the illegality of selling counterfeit/clone items and the fraudulent nature of the clones/counterfeits themselves, selling these items on is not allowed. If you post a counterfeit/clone item for sale it will be deleted, repeated violations will result in permanent loss of access to the Marketplace forums.

Selling replica items, clearly stated as such and bearing no markings or titles of a similar brand name item is allowed and acceptable. However misrepresenting a replica as an original for sale is of course fraud and will be treated as such.

Outline and intended use of the individual Marketplace sub-forums.
Threads placed in the incorrect forum may be moved or deleted without warning by the moderating team.

Commercial Sales & Good Deals
For the Commercial sales of Firearms and Accessories as well as sharing good deals.

Private Firearms Sales
For the private sale of Firearms.
"Airsoft guns" are not firearms.

Private Firearm Parts & Accessories Sales
For the Private sale of Firearms related accessories.

Private Ammo & Reloading Sales
For the Private Sale of Ammo & Reloading Components.
Beware that it is illegal to sell reloaded ammo that has been assembled/mfgd without a manufacturers license.

Private Non-Firearms Related Sales
For the non-commercial sales of non-firearms related items.

WTB (Want To Buy)/Services Offered Forum
This forum is to be used for the purposes of offering Professional Services of any type OR for
posting Want to Buy ad's of any type.

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