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[Panda2A]

Originally Posted by 09cs

So just checked the LASD site for the first time in a while and looks like they updated it, and it says their CCW policy is under review. Think this is because of SB 2?

I checked.. it looks the same as it did last year after Bruen decision.. The policy is under review pertains to that.

I'm not too worried about SB2.. because as soon as it's passed (it 100% will), there will be lawsuits.. and they will lose... Supreme court will slap it back down like it's doing to New Jersey and NY with similar new laws.

[09cs]

Originally Posted by Panda2A

I checked.. it looks the same as it did last year after Bruen decision.. The policy is under review pertains to that.

I'm not too worried about SB2.. because as soon as it's passed (it 100% will), there will be lawsuits.. and they will lose... Supreme court will slap it back down like it's doing to New Jersey and NY with similar new laws.

Last I checked the most recent update was the august 1st update, and no changing firearms to get through the huge number of apps

[09cs]

Originally Posted by Panda2A

I checked.. it looks the same as it did last year after Bruen decision.. The policy is under review pertains to that.

I'm not too worried about SB2.. because as soon as it's passed (it 100% will), there will be lawsuits.. and they will lose... Supreme court will slap it back down like it's doing to New Jersey and NY with similar new laws.

I wonder how long it will take for SB2 to be slapped back down…

[D_K]

Originally Posted by Panda2A

I checked.. it looks the same as it did last year after Bruen decision.. The policy is under review pertains to that.

I'm not too worried about SB2.. because as soon as it's passed (it 100% will), there will be lawsuits.. and they will lose... Supreme court will slap it back down like it's doing to New Jersey and NY with similar new laws.

I partly agree with you on the slap it back down. The sensitive places will for sure be ruled as unconstitutional BUT the fee increase, the hours of training increase will not be. I don't think. The Bruen decision left that part wide open for interpretations so unless the supreme court issues a much more firm clear opinion letter that will be their way. Although one cna argue the 14th amendment will apply there as increasing fees pretty much targets lower to middle class and certain races....

[142A]

Caught Bonta on Fox11 news tonight talking about SB2. Props to the host for asking the right questions, who is usually ultra squishy. Only to be dodged by Bonta with Newsom's BS. Not surprising.
Link: https://www.foxla.com/video/1176012

[GL30]

Originally Posted by 142A

Caught Bonta on Fox11 news tonight talking about SB2. Props to the host for asking the right questions, who is usually ultra squishy. Only to be dodged by Bonta with Newsom's BS. Not surprising.
Link: https://www.foxla.com/video/1176012

I thoroughly 100% agree. He dodged the questions with responses that didn't answer the questions asked.

[POOPonYOU]

Originally Posted by GL30

I thoroughly 100% agree. He dodged the questions with responses that didn't answer the questions asked.

It's funny that Bonta asks for the data but ignores the data showing that CCW holders aren't involved in mass shootings. And he believes (not data driven) that an increase in firearms will increase gun deaths.

Criminals don't give a **** about data or your laws.

[142A]

Originally Posted by POOPonYOU

It's funny that Bonta asks for the data but ignores the data showing that CCW holders aren't involved in mass shootings. And he believes (not data driven) that an increase in firearms will increase gun deaths.

Criminals don't give a **** about data or your laws.

Criminals have their own self issued CCWs.

And so will the rest of us soon with the way things are going.

[GL30]

Bonta’s comment about more guns, mean more deaths is correct. It is also an oversimplification. It should have been more exact. Something to the effect of, “More guns in the hands of criminals means, more deaths or in the hands of law abiding citizens more dead criminals.

[142A]

Originally Posted by GL30

Bonta’s comment about more guns, mean more deaths is correct. It is also an oversimplification. It should have been more exact. Something to the effect of, “More guns in the hands of criminals means, more deaths or in the hands of law abiding citizens more dead criminals.

Bonta dodged the question about CCW causing mass shootings. Here is some data about permit less carry and murders:

On June 7, 2017, Breitbart News relayed FBI data published by the NRA that showed two of the earliest permitless carry states, hereafter called constitutional carry states, were Alaska and Arizona. And both states saw their handgun murders decline when their concealed carry permit requirements were abolished.

The date showed Alaska’s handgun murder rate “declined after the state enacted [constitutional carry] in 2003.” Moreover, in the 14 years between the abolition of the permit requirement and 2017 “handgun murders…declined as a percentage of the total number of murders.”


A drop in handgun murders also took place in Arizona after that state abolished its concealed carry permit requirement in 2010.


More recently, the Maine Wire noted that crime fell in Maine after the state abolished its concealed carry permit requirement in 2015.

FBI data shows violent crime beginning a decline in 2016 that continued through 2020.

There are currently 25 states with constitutional carry. When there were only 13–Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Idaho, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Mississippi, Missouri, New Hampshire, North Dakota, West Virginia, and Wyoming–the Crime Prevention Research Center (CPRC) showed that data from the 13 states showed overall murder numbers fell from 4.49 to 4.31 post-constitutional carry enactment

[Mikeg2503]

Originally Posted by 09cs

So just checked the LASD site for the first time in a while and looks like they updated it, and it says their CCW policy is under review. Think this is because of SB 2?

I just checked it out and I don't remember seeing that a few months back. I did see the August update thing that's always been there. Wonder if that currently under review has always been there or did they just recently add that.

Has anyone been contacted within the last two weeks? My wife got her PTT email last Friday Jan 27th.

[142A]

Originally Posted by Mikeg2503

I just checked it out and I don't remember seeing that a few months back. I did see the August update thing that's always been there. Wonder if that currently under review has always been there or did they just recently add that.

Has anyone been contacted within the last two weeks? My wife got her PTT email last Friday Jan 27th.

The currently under review statement is relatively new. Not sure when exactly.

[dawgcasa]

Originally Posted by POOPonYOU

It's funny that Bonta asks for the data but ignores the data showing that CCW holders aren't involved in mass shootings. And he believes (not data driven) that an increase in firearms will increase gun deaths.

Criminals don't give a **** about data or your laws.

There have been statistical studies done from crime data looking at the rate of ‘unlawful’ (i.e., criminal) shootings involving people with CCW permits. These studies used data from states with prolific issuance of permits (i.e., large statistical samples). They found that the per capita rate of CCW permit holders committing unlawful shootings was eight times LESS than LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. This translates into a probability of a random person being criminally shot by a CCW permit holder being roughly equal to their odds of being struck by lightning.

[MaxDps44]

Originally Posted by Mikeg2503

I just checked it out and I don't remember seeing that a few months back. I did see the August update thing that's always been there. Wonder if that currently under review has always been there or did they just recently add that.

Has anyone been contacted within the last two weeks? My wife got her PTT email last Friday Jan 27th.

Radio silent here. 121 days and counting, since interview and all live scans completed. The email wait continues. Good luck to everyone still waiting.

[Maverick.8Four]

Nothing here either. Will most likely renew my real estate license twice over before I get the proceed to training email. Meanwhile our office saw a double-homicide at the front door, but gun laws keep us safe right?

For now, keeping medical training and hands on combatives up to snuff.

[LrdVaderZ]

Originally Posted by Maverick.8Four

Nothing here either. Will most likely renew my real estate license twice over before I get the proceed to training email. Meanwhile our office saw a double-homicide at the front door, but gun laws keep us safe right?

For now, keeping medical training and hands on combatives up to snuff.

To prevent homicides your office should have posted "Gun Free Zone" sign, and everything would have been peachy

[D_K]

Originally Posted by LrdVaderZ

To prevent homicides your office should have posted "Gun Free Zone" sign, and everything would have been peachy

Man looking at your timeline you should be pretty darn close for your training email... Just comparing to my timeline a slight delay for yours....

[Mikeg2503]

Originally Posted by Maverick.8Four

Nothing here either. Will most likely renew my real estate license twice over before I get the proceed to training email. Meanwhile our office saw a double-homicide at the front door, but gun laws keep us safe right?

For now, keeping medical training and hands on combatives up to snuff.

Have you email for an update and if so how many times post interview?

[Mikeg2503]

Originally Posted by MaxDps44

Radio silent here. 121 days and counting, since interview and all live scans completed. The email wait continues. Good luck to everyone still waiting.

Have you emailed for an update?

[Chatsworth12345]

Originally Posted by Chatsworth12345

Just got a phone call today (February 1) from LAPD that the Chief of Police approved my CCW. Meanwhile, I haven't heard anything from LASD from my application submitted in July 2022.

Sent from my SM-F936U using Tapatalk

In case you were wondering what the letter looks like from LAPD. I never thought I would see the day that the LAPD and City of Los Angeles would be giving me a CCW. In the meantime, LASD hasn't said anything to me since submitting my application in July 2022.20230205_125511.jpg

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[D_K]

Originally Posted by Chatsworth12345

In case you were wondering what the letter looks like from LAPD. I never thought I would see the day that the LAPD and City of Los Angeles would be giving me a CCW. In the meantime, LASD hasn't said anything to me since submitting my application in July 2022.Attachment 1145964

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Yeah saw your exact same post in the lapd section as well couple of hours earlier....

[LrdVaderZ]

Originally Posted by D_K

Man looking at your timeline you should be pretty darn close for your training email... Just comparing to my timeline a slight delay for yours....

I hope so But, I also hope that SB2 will either flunk outright or at least be challenged ASAP if/when it passes

[D_K]

Originally Posted by LrdVaderZ

I hope so But, I also hope that SB2 will either flunk outright or at least be challenged ASAP if/when it passes

Well I can tell you that sb2 will pass. No doubt about it and it will go into effect end of this year or beginning of next year. By that time many of the jersey, New York, etc laws that have been deemed unconstitutional should have some sort of resolution and that will apply to sb2 as well.

I believe that the fees and the increase training hours will stand but the sensitive places will not.... Unless supreme court comes out with a new opinion letter that is more exact and firm compared to bruen. Bruen left the fees, training, etc up to the states as opposed to "hey here is the federal law"....

[HaroldoftheRocks310EatMe]

Received the call yesterday from a blocked line at around 2pm and my old lady welcomed a beautiful baby boy earlier in the week.

You'll never have the tree if you don't plant the seed.

My time line:
12.1.21 - submitted via USPS
09.18.22 - call for interview
10.22.22 - interview
10.22.22 - live scans cleared in a day or two
12.20.22 - proceed to training
12.22.22 - training docs received
02.05.23 - call to pick up

[reese27k]

I’m so annoyed with myself. I never thought the CCW unit would call me on a Sunday to schedule my pick up appointment but they did. I had my phone on silent. I called back a little while later and couldn’t get through to anyone. I called this morning and they said I have to wait for them to call next Sunday because all the appointments are filled. So I guess next Sunday I’m not taking a shower or doing anything other than sitting by my phone. I know I didn’t post my timeline but my training docs were received 12/22/22.

[D_K]

Originally Posted by reese27k

I’m so annoyed with myself. I never thought the CCW unit would call me on a Sunday to schedule my pick up appointment but they did. I had my phone on silent. I called back a little while later and couldn’t get through to anyone. I called this morning and they said I have to wait for them to call next Sunday because all the appointments are filled. So I guess next Sunday I’m not taking a shower or doing anything other than sitting by my phone. I know I didn’t post my timeline but my training docs were received 12/22/22.

That sucks but congrats. My suggestion is don't take a shower or do anything all week as they don't call just Sundays....guys here have gotten calls all throughout the week

[Maverick.8Four]

Originally Posted by Mikeg2503

Have you email for an update and if so how many times post interview?

Yup, emailed them twice already. Once in the end of November and again in the first week of January.

[gillius28]

My training docs were received 12.16.22 and still no call for pickup. Assuming its any minute now?

@HaroldoftheRocks310EatMe how far out is your pick up date?

[Kh2456]

Originally Posted by gillius28

My training docs were received 12.16.22 and still no call for pickup. Assuming its any minute now?

@HaroldoftheRocks310EatMe how far out is your pick up date?

Same boat here. Received 12/7/22 and radio silence.

[HaroldoftheRocks310EatMe]

Originally Posted by gillius28

My training docs were received 12.16.22 and still no call for pickup. Assuming its any minute now?

@HaroldoftheRocks310EatMe how far out is your pick up date?

P/U date is March 8th, Sir.

My time line:
12.1.21 - submitted via USPS
09.18.22 - call for interview
10.22.22 - interview
10.22.22 - live scans cleared in a day or two
12.20.22 - proceed to training
12.22.22 - training docs received
02.05.23 - call to pick up

[MaxDps44]

Originally Posted by Mikeg2503

Have you emailed for an update?

I sent an email December 1, 2022 asking for an update. They sent the standard "Your file and live scan returns are pending review, we will contact you once the review is complete". I have not followed up again. I need to call them, if I do not hear anything from them by March 1. That's my plan, no more emails.

[gillius28]

Originally Posted by HaroldoftheRocks310EatMe

P/U date is March 8th, Sir.

My time line:
12.1.21 - submitted via USPS
09.18.22 - call for interview
10.22.22 - interview
10.22.22 - live scans cleared in a day or two
12.20.22 - proceed to training
12.22.22 - training docs received
02.05.23 - call to pick up

Wow! Was the first appointment for pickup really a full month out or did you have schedule conflicts?

[Maverick.8Four]

Originally Posted by MaxDps44

I sent an email December 1, 2022 asking for an update. They sent the standard "Your file and live scan returns are pending review, we will contact you once the review is complete". I have not followed up again. I need to call them, if I do not hear anything from them by March 1. That's my plan, no more emails.

Please do keep us posted!

At this point I’m really considering taking the L and just applying at my local PD.

[stag6.8]

Originally Posted by Maverick.8Four

Please do keep us posted!

At this point I’m really considering taking the L and just applying at my local PD.

Just be patient...there's several advantages to LASD over local PD....if you move to a different city you have to renew in that certain city if you go local PD.....but...with county you can move anywhere as long as you reside in that county ...larger coverage...I know it's taking awhile but patience prevails..

[MaxDps44]

I Just received the proceed to training email this morning at 5:51 from the CCW Unit. I just sent them my training records, since I completed training on 10/29/22. Just hang in there, it will come soon. This email wait took 4 months, now another 2 month wait for a pick-up date, then another 2 month wait for pick-up. Good Luck.

[Maverick.8Four]

Originally Posted by stag6.8

Just be patient...there's several advantages to LASD over local PD....if you move to a different city you have to renew in that certain city if you go local PD.....but...with county you can move anywhere as long as you reside in that county ...larger coverage...I know it's taking awhile but patience prevails..

Yeah you’re right; and the pros outweigh the cons. I’m a pretty patient person but I definitely needed to hear this. Thank you.

[Maverick.8Four]

Originally Posted by MaxDps44

I Just received the proceed to training email this morning at 5:51 from the CCW Unit. I just sent them my training records, since I completed training on 10/29/22. Just hang in there, it will come soon. This email wait took 4 months, now another 2 month wait for a pick-up date, then another 2 month wait for pick-up. Good Luck.

That’s awesome news! Hopefully your PU is sooner than later.

[MaxDps44]

Originally Posted by Maverick.8Four

Yeah you’re right; and the pros outweigh the cons. I’m a pretty patient person but I definitely needed to hear this. Thank you.

I bet your email is coming very soon. All good things come to those who wait very, very long, lol

[SunkenShadow]

Originally Posted by HaroldoftheRocks310EatMe

P/U date is March 8th, Sir.

My time line:
12.1.21 - submitted via USPS
09.18.22 - call for interview
10.22.22 - interview
10.22.22 - live scans cleared in a day or two
12.20.22 - proceed to training
12.22.22 - training docs received
02.05.23 - call to pick up

Glad I should be expecting a call soon. Not too far behind you.

[Mikeg2503]

Finally got the PTT email, a little after 10pm.