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Posted by: David Melnarik in Community News, Santa Clarita Latest News January 20, 2020 - 2:31 pm 2 Comments 1,429 Views

Los Angeles County Sheriff Alex Villanueva is planning to visit Santa Clarita for a February town hall meeting, officials said.

Santa Clarita residents are invited to “have their voices heard” by Villanueva at the town hall meeting on Feb. 12, according to officials.

The official post from the Santa Clarita Valley Sheriff’s Station welcomes community members for an evening of information and dialogue regarding community concerns.

Villanueva was unable to attend a previous town hall meeting in June of last year following the shooting of an off-duty Los Angeles County Sheriff’s deputy, according to officials.

The previous town hall meeting featured topics such as concealed carry weapon permits, Sheriff’s Station coordination with local colleges, a recent string of home invasions, Sheriff’s Department youth programs, cyclist and pedestrian law enforcement, gang members in Santa Clarita and the role of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) in California jails.

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At the February town hall, Santa Clarita residents are invited to ask questions and raise their concerns over crime and other topics within the city.

The town hall meeting is scheduled for 6:30 p.m. on Feb. 12 at the Santa Clarita Sports Complex.
More at: https://www.hometownstation.com/sant...clarita-309185

Does anyone know what was discussed re. CCWs at the June meeting?

I'd attend this meeting even if you don't live in Santa Clarita city since he's the sheriff for the entire county. Be sure to submit questions or be ready to ask them to the sheriff regarding CCWs. Sheriff Gore of San Diego County, 1/3rd the population of LA Co, just passed 3,700 CCWs.
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More at: https://www.hometownstation.com/sant...clarita-309185

Does anyone know what was discussed re. CCWs at the June meeting?

I'd attend this meeting even if you don't live in Santa Clarita city since he's the sheriff for the entire county. Be sure to submit questions or be ready to ask them to the sheriff regarding CCWs. Sheriff Gore of San Diego County, 1/3rd the population of LA Co, just passed 3,700 CCWs.
"V" was there before the open meeting. But left with good cause, and his lackies stayed and spoke LIED in his stead.

https://www.hometownstation.com/sant...meeting-281138

Los Angeles County Sheriff Alex Villanueva was expected to appear at a Santa Clarita town hall meeting Monday night, but was forced to respond to the shooting of an off-duty deputy inside an Alhambra Jack-in-the-Box.


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“The Sheriff was here earlier, we had a nice meeting with the Santa Clarita City Council and City Manager, and he was called away,” said Sheriff Villanueva’s Chief of Staff, Lawrence Del Mese. “We had something unfortunate happen to one of our deputy personnel and he had to go deal with that immediately.”

Del Mese and Captain Robert Lewis of the Santa Clarita Valley Sheriff’s Station stepped in to fill the void left by Villanueva’s unfortunate absence, fielding questions submitted by members of our community.

Among the topics discussed were concealed carry weapon permits, the sheriff’s station coordination with local colleges, a recent string of home invasions, sheriff’s department youth programs, cyclist and pedestrian law enforcement, gang members in Santa Clarita, and the role of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) in California jails.

Sheriff Villanueva is very open to giving out concealed carry permits, his only personal requirement is to follow the rules put in place by state laws, according to Del Mese.
V is a life long Democrat who claims to support the 2A. Haven't we heard that before?

baggss, should change the color of LACO to BLACK on his CCW map. To match the lying black heart of our current sheriff.
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January 2020 California State audit of Los Angeles CCW program.

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Maybe (relatively) old news to some of us following the coronavirus situation in LA, but here it is:

“I’m a supporter of the 2nd amendment, I’m a gun owner myself, but now you have the mixture of people that are not formerly gun owners and you have a lot more people at home and anytime you introduce a firearm in a home, from what I understand from CDC studies, it increases fourfold the chance that someone is gonna get shot.” - Alex Villanueva.

Read the full article here: https://www.foxla.com/news/la-county...ties-to-patrol

How unfortunate for those unlucky people who now just started taking serious steps about protecting themselves at home as we are all staying home and crime is expected to rise due to desperate situations. Our Sheriff just took the ability away from the people who wish to protect their homes and families by depriving them of the tools to do so.

I know this is unrelated to CCW discussion, but based on this, it appears that the Dark Red map designation for LA County CCW is going to stay Dark Red for a long time.
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And while Villanueva prevented law abiding citizens from protecting themselves at home, he released 1,700 inmates in LA County.

Read the article here: https://ktla.com/news/local-news/170...-sheriff-says/

Am I the only person who feels something is backwards here?
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And while Villanueva prevented law abiding citizens from protecting themselves at home, he released 1,700 inmates in LA County.

Read the article here: https://ktla.com/news/local-news/170...-sheriff-says/

Am I the only person who feels something is backwards here?
Not backwards, just Business As Usual for Demorats. Lie to voters. Claim if elected you will protect citizens, and put criminals in jail.

Once elected, throw citizens to the wolves, and let the wolves out of jail.
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Well now I’m lost.


https://ktla.com/news/california/gov...ng-for-murder/
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so current status of obtaining a CCW from either Los Angeles Sheriff or LAPD is basically impossible?

i live in the city of LA
considering applying to LAPD for ccw

do you guys think i have any chance with the following for good cause?

d) The applicant establishes that circumstances exist requiring him or her to transport in public significant amounts of valuable property which it is impractical or impracticable to entrust to the protection of armored car services or equivalent services for safe transportation of valuables;

my parents (senior citizens) own a small jewelry business in Los Angeles
i have carried merchandise and cash for them
made deliveries of jewelry and picked up cash payment
i have carried up to $70,000 in cash for the business

the business is registered in my mom's name
I am not on any payroll for the business but i do have business cards in my name

for my "day job" I am a licensed attorney practicing law
so I worry whether the GC will be taken seriously because I have a separate job
but my office is located just a few blocks away from my parents' business
and the deliveries/pickups are made in the evenings

welcome any thoughts and comments
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so current status of obtaining a CCW from either Los Angeles Sheriff or LAPD is basically impossible?

i live in the city of LA
considering applying to LAPD for ccw

do you guys think i have any chance with the following for good cause?

d) The applicant establishes that circumstances exist requiring him or her to transport in public significant amounts of valuable property which it is impractical or impracticable to entrust to the protection of armored car services or equivalent services for safe transportation of valuables;

my parents (senior citizens) own a small jewelry business in Los Angeles
i have carried merchandise and cash for them
made deliveries of jewelry and picked up cash payment
i have carried up to $70,000 in cash for the business

the business is registered in my mom's name
I am not on any payroll for the business but i do have business cards in my name

for my "day job" I am a licensed attorney practicing law
so I worry whether the GC will be taken seriously because I have a separate job
but my office is located just a few blocks away from my parents' business
and the deliveries/pickups are made in the evenings

welcome any thoughts and comments

Move out of the S*** HOLE that is L.A. County and you will get your permit!
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so current status of obtaining a CCW from either Los Angeles Sheriff or LAPD is basically impossible?

i live in the city of LA
considering applying to LAPD for ccw

do you guys think i have any chance with the following for good cause?

d) The applicant establishes that circumstances exist requiring him or her to transport in public significant amounts of valuable property which it is impractical or impracticable to entrust to the protection of armored car services or equivalent services for safe transportation of valuables;

my parents (senior citizens) own a small jewelry business in Los Angeles
i have carried merchandise and cash for them
made deliveries of jewelry and picked up cash payment
i have carried up to $70,000 in cash for the business

the business is registered in my mom's name
I am not on any payroll for the business but i do have business cards in my name


for my "day job" I am a licensed attorney practicing law
so I worry whether the GC will be taken seriously because I have a separate job
but my office is located just a few blocks away from my parents' business
and the deliveries/pickups are made in the evenings

welcome any thoughts and comments
First off, welcome to Calguns and the fight for a Right to Bear Arms in this state.

Next, you've identified the relevant issues: you're neither an owner or an employee of the company, despite your volunteer work for them. As a lawyer, ask yourself if something happened to you while helping them, would they be legally liable for you? As a son (daughter?) I can understand why you put yourself (and them) in this legally questionable position, but as a lawyer, why have you allowed it to remain thus???

My advice: become an owner along with them. If you do that, you have a reasonable (I won't say solid) chance of getting issued. If you only become an employee, I have no reason to believe AV will issue to you. He may or he may not (the latter the default setting for LACSD).

Of course, if that is not feasible, just wait along with the rest of us for SCOTUS to rule in NYSRPA and see what that transport case gives us re. carry ("bear"). We should find out sometime in the next 3 months (before July 01). If SCOTUS doesn't say much re. carry in it, there are about a half dozen SCOTUS and CA9 carry cases suspended pending a decision in NYSRPA. Those cases will move the ball down field.
See: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1486495

Be sure to go through all my posts in the following thread re. applying in CoCoCo: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1482924

Since you're new, this is the CA CCW Good Cause map. The implications are worth pondering.


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Well, you're a bright boy, you've identified the relevant issues: you're neither an owner or an employee of the company, despite your volunteer work for them. As a lawyer, ask yourself if something happened to you while helping them, would they be legally liable for you? As a son (daughter?) I can understand why you put yourself (and them) in this legally questionable position, but as a lawyer, why have you allowed it to remain thus???

My advice: become an owner along with them. If you do that, you have a reasonable (I won't say solid) chance of getting issued. If you only become an employee, I have no reason to believe AV will issue to you. He may or he may not (the latter the default setting for LACSD).

Of course, if that is not feasible, just wait along with the rest of us for SCOTUS to rule in NYSRPA and see what that transport case gives us re. carry ("bear"). We should find out before July 01. If it doesn't say much, there are about a half dozen carry cases (SCOTUS and CA9) suspended pending its decision. They will give us an answer. See: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1486495

Be sure to go through all my posts in the following thread re. applying in CoCoCo: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1482924
Solid info here. Also, from what I hear, LAPD May give you a better chance for issue compared to LASD.
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Solid info here. Also, from what I hear, LAPD May give you a better chance for issue compared to LASD.
Thanks.

9Cal_OC bring ups a good point: some cities within LA Co issue CCWs too. But you must live in an incorporated city with it's own police department and chief of police. If your city contracts with the sheriff for police services, they won't issue separately. If 2AmericanDream lives in a city with it's own PD and CoP, I'd apply with them first and get denied before applying with the sheriff.

Yes, LAPD issues more readily than LACSD.

But, frankly, the more I think about it, unless you have reason to think you'll be at increased risk in the next 3 months vs the last 3, I'd wait the less than 3 months until SCOTUS decides NYSRPA before doing anything.

In the mean time, practice situational awareness (Cooper's Color Code), every day carry (EDC) pepper spray and obey the 4-Stupids Rule (avoid going to Stupid places, avoid being around Stupid people, avoid doing Stupid things and avoid being out at Stupid times).

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Yes, LAPD issues more readily than LACSD.
According to this -> https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/l...ermits/137623/

I really doubt LAPD issues more readily unless you want to count LAPD issuing 2 if LASD issued 0 or 1 (but I have a feeling LASD issued at least 2).
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According to this -> https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/l...ermits/137623/

I really doubt LAPD issues more readily unless you want to count LAPD issuing 2 if LASD issued 0 or 1 (but I have a feeling LASD issued at least 2).
That article is >1 year old. I just went to the court's records to see current status of Assenza and posted an update here: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...8#post24141018 Please contribute there if you have any more info/intel.

If we win Assenza, LAPD might have to follow the terms of that settlement to ALL otherwise qualified City of LA residents who apply for LAPD CCWs. In the City of LA, that will be many thousands of people! If you qualify under Assenza, you may want to have your application completely filled out and ready to submit at a moment's notice.

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That article is >1 year old. I just went to the court's records to see current status of Assenza and posted an update here: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...8#post24141018 Please contribute there if you have any more info/intel.

If we win Assenza, LAPD might have to follow the terms of that settlement to ALL otherwise qualified City of LA residents who apply for LAPD CCWs. In the City of LA, that will be many thousands of people! If you qualify under Assenza, you may want to have your application completely filled out and ready to submit at a moment's notice.
Thank you Paladin!

I did read the settlement and came across this:

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According to the language in the stipulation, good cause would exist if:

(a) The applicant is able to establish that there is an immediate or continuing threat, express or implied, to the applicant’s, or the applicant’s family’s, safety and that no other reasonable means to exist which would suffice to neutralize that threat;

(b) The applicant is employed in the field of security, has all requisite licenses, is employed by a security firm having all requisite licenses, and provides satisfactory proof that his or her work is of such a nature that it requires the carrying of a concealed weapon;

(c) The applicant has obtained, or is a person included within the protections of, a court order which established that the applicant is the on-going victim of a threat of physical violence or otherwise meets the criteria set forth in Penal Code Section12025.5;

(d) The applicant established that circumstances exist requiring him or her to carry or transport in public significant amounts of valuable property which it is impractical or impractical to entrust to the protection of the armored car services of equivalent services for safe transportation of valuables;

(e) The applicant establishes that he or she is subject to a particular and unusual danger of physical attack and that no reasonable means are available to abate that threat.
So unless I misread something it doesn't mean that CCW will become shall-issue but rather just it expands the type of good cause. Upon reading this it would make it seem like LA city would be bright red or yellow on the map. Even then I can imagine that restrictions will be placed on when you can use it if you opt for (b) or (d).
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So unless I misread something it doesn't mean that CCW will become shall-issue but rather just it expands the type of good cause. Upon reading this it would make it seem like LA city would be bright red or yellow on the map. Even then I can imagine that restrictions will be placed on when you can use it if you opt for (b) or (d).
Yep. In a city of 4,000,000 there must be thousands or even tens of thousands of security guards. If 0.5% are in that field, that's 20,000 CCWers! That's just those who qualify as security guards -- add in those who qualify under the other categories too.

If you qualify under Assenza, you may want to contact C.D. Michel, Esq., or an associate re. applying.
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Yep. In a city of 4,000,000 there must be thousands or even tens of thousands of security guards. If 0.5% are in that field, that's 20,000 CCWers! That's just those who qualify as security guards -- add in those who qualify under the other categories too.

If you qualify under Assenza, you may want to contact C.D. Michel, Esq., or an associate re. applying.
Honestly I think I might be able to qualify for (d) but I don't know if I want to get the CCW just to have restrictions on it. In the article I mentioned the LAPD Chief did issue 2 CCWs but he placed restrictions on them so the 2 who had them could only carry them when they were transporting valuable property (in this case, machine guns).


Even then I think it might be a push to say that I'm "required" to transport said valuable property. In another scenario a firearm can be considered valuable property and although you have to pick it up from a gun store to take back home I'm not sure if a CCW is going to be issued for something like that. Yes there's no other way to transport it but they'll push you around by saying something like "you're not required to make that purchase".
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Honestly I think I might be able to qualify for (d) but I don't know if I want to get the CCW just to have restrictions on it. In the article I mentioned the LAPD Chief did issue 2 CCWs but he placed restrictions on them so the 2 who had them could only carry them when they were transporting valuable property (in this case, machine guns).


Even then I think it might be a push to say that I'm "required" to transport said valuable property. In another scenario a firearm can be considered valuable property and although you have to pick it up from a gun store to take back home I'm not sure if a CCW is going to be issued for something like that. Yes there's no other way to transport it but they'll push you around by saying something like "you're not required to make that purchase".
You want a CCW? There is a very simple way of getting one. Move out of LA County to ANY county that borders LA County and you will get a CCW. Please don't say it can't be done because of work, family, home, etc. If you want one badly enough than move to a county that will issue. Discussing your chances of getting one in LA is a fool's errand as it simply won't happen. Period end of story!
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Honestly I think I might be able to qualify for (d) but I don't know if I want to get the CCW just to have restrictions on it. In the article I mentioned the LAPD Chief did issue 2 CCWs but he placed restrictions on them so the 2 who had them could only carry them when they were transporting valuable property (in this case, machine guns).


Even then I think it might be a push to say that I'm "required" to transport said valuable property. In another scenario a firearm can be considered valuable property and although you have to pick it up from a gun store to take back home I'm not sure if a CCW is going to be issued for something like that. Yes there's no other way to transport it but they'll push you around by saying something like "you're not required to make that purchase".
Your chief obviously does NOT want to issue, even under the Assenza settlement since he went to court to try to gut that.

If I were you, I'd wait to see what happens with NYSRPA case. We hope to get a win in that before July 01. That case might help us win a Right to Bear Arms, either directly or indirectly under other pending Carry Cases. Keep up with it at: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1486495

If that doesn't work out, move just inside the border of the neighboring county closest to your place of work.
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Thank you Paladin!

I did read the settlement and came across this:



So unless I misread something it doesn't mean that CCW will become shall-issue but rather just it expands the type of good cause. Upon reading this it would make it seem like LA city would be bright red or yellow on the map. Even then I can imagine that restrictions will be placed on when you can use it if you opt for (b) or (d).
You should read over RoundEye's blog at:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/blog.php?bt=282

You may want to PM him for his thoughts/suggestions.
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First off, welcome to Calguns and the fight for a Right to Bear Arms in this state.

Next, you've identified the relevant issues: you're neither an owner or an employee of the company, despite your volunteer work for them. As a lawyer, ask yourself if something happened to you while helping them, would they be legally liable for you? As a son (daughter?) I can understand why you put yourself (and them) in this legally questionable position, but as a lawyer, why have you allowed it to remain thus???

My advice: become an owner along with them. If you do that, you have a reasonable (I won't say solid) chance of getting issued. If you only become an employee, I have no reason to believe AV will issue to you. He may or he may not (the latter the default setting for LACSD).

Of course, if that is not feasible, just wait along with the rest of us for SCOTUS to rule in NYSRPA and see what that transport case gives us re. carry ("bear"). We should find out sometime in the next 3 months (before July 01). If SCOTUS doesn't say much re. carry in it, there are about a half dozen SCOTUS and CA9 carry cases suspended pending a decision in NYSRPA. Those cases will move the ball down field.
See: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1486495

Be sure to go through all my posts in the following thread re. applying in CoCoCo: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1482924

Since you're new, this is the CA CCW Good Cause map. The implications are worth pondering.
Since my parents are at about retirement age, it is a real possibility that i could end up with the business in my name
I will have a discussion with them.
If that does happen, then I will definitely make that my good cause for the CCW application.
If not, moving to a new city with its own police department is also possibility in the future
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Since my parents are at about retirement age, it is a real possibility that i could end up with the business in my name
I will have a discussion with them.
If that does happen, then I will definitely make that my good cause for the CCW application.
If not, moving to a new city with its own police department is also possibility in the future
Its a possibility NOW if you want it badly enough!
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Of course, if that is not feasible, just wait along with the rest of us for SCOTUS to rule in NYSRPA and see what that transport case gives us re. carry ("bear"). We should find out sometime in the next 3 months (before July 01). If SCOTUS doesn't say much re. carry in it, there are about a half dozen SCOTUS and CA9 carry cases suspended pending a decision in NYSRPA. Those cases will move the ball down field.
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SCOTUS punted and disposed of the NYSRPA case without deciding about our 2nd A R to Bear Arms. We're awaiting to see what they do with the half dozen or so cases that are pending that decision.
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If not, moving to a new city with its own police department is also possibility in the future
I just made a thread in the CCW Discussion forum for everyone who knows of any LA Co cities with their own PDs and that issue CCWs to make a post sharing their info. I put all of mine in the Opening Post.

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There was an article posted in a CA politics litigation and activism forum thread which I am referring to here.

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https://www.latimes.com/opinion/stor...icide-homicide


In the comments, someone wrote that AV would be issuing permits now because of the pandemic. The article commenter said the sheriff made the statement about ccw in a virtual town hall 3 days ago. I am looking for it but cannot find the town hall recording. Has anyone had luck verifying this?

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Hmm. Most interesting.

So far, neither the Licensing Policy nor the CCW Policy have been updated/replaced at: https://lasd.org/ccw_info.html They both have his predecessor's restrictive GC language. I would think CGN's LA Co members would be climbing over themselves to find out if this is true....

For some perspective on how big this could be: usually, after Shall Issue (or in this case SD = GC), ~3-5% of the adult population gets CCWs. LA Co is ~10M. Let's say 8M are >21. 1% of 8M is 80,000. Let's go conservative: 3%, that's 240,000 CCWers! Right now, our state total is only >120,000, so that would be an increase of 200%

I can't wait to find out if this is true.

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There was an article posted in a CA politics litigation and activism forum thread which I am referring to here.

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https://www.latimes.com/opinion/stor...icide-homicide


In the comments, someone wrote that AV would be issuing permits now because of the pandemic. The article commenter said the sheriff made the statement about ccw in a virtual town hall 3 days ago. I am looking for it but cannot find the town hall recording. Has anyone had luck verifying this?

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There was an article posted in a CA politics litigation and activism forum thread which I am referring to here.

Article from thread:

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/stor...icide-homicide


In the comments, someone wrote that AV would be issuing permits now because of the pandemic. The article commenter said the sheriff made the statement about ccw in a virtual town hall 3 days ago. I am looking for it but cannot find the town hall recording. Has anyone had luck verifying this?

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What's funny about this article and topic in Los Angeles County is that the "Progressive's" choice for Sheriff, the infamous Alex Villanueva, who during the early stages of the COVID-19 Pandemic lockdown attempted to order the closing of LA County gun stores, under the false premise that he was doing so to protect pandemic lock-downed family members who would be killing each other at record levels with their newly purchased guns, twice, ultimately reversing his unconstitutional orders once he was hit with several lawsuits that will now cost the tax payers dearly in paying settlement loses very soon. Oh, and there were no cases of Sheriff Villanueva's bogus predicted domestic slaughter.

The formerly retired lieutenant who is now playing sheriff miscalculated once again and his ill-advised decisions blew up in his face, especially on his favorite Facebook, Twitter and Instagram social media platforms, as 2nd Amendment rights folks have hammered him relentlessly on virtually every posting that he makes. His fragile ego is unable to handle the daily abusive beatdowns and he is now cracking under the pressure.

Sheriff Villanueva, as he publicly announced today in his embarrassing and poorly run virtual town-hall meeting, is now promising to issue the once tightly controlled Concealed Carry Weapons permits (CCW's) to all who apply, and has even taken steps to build up staffing levels to process applications even though he doesn't have the budget to do so.

Why would Alex suddenly have such a dramatic change of heart and be okay with flooding the streets of La County with gun toting CCW permit holders? Well, as with anything Alex does, it's only to benefit himself. In this case, he can hide the fact that he has only been approving and issuing CCW's to "special donors" and now he can bury those special CCW permit holders amongst the common folks who will now be willing to vote for the struggling sheriff in the future in order to keep their treasured CCW permits, since Alejandro has completely lost the support of his progressive base who carried him into the office of the sheriff that he was and still is totally unqualified to hold.

So now, who is coming to research and expose the latest corrupt actions of Sheriff V?
Says posted 4 days ago, so June 16. The way their comments work, it doesn't let me easily find anything else posted by this same commentor so it's hard to judge, other than the post seems a bit of a rant and it's just an anonymous comment. Hard to believe that such an ultra-progressive as Sheriff V would do this, but... that doesn't mean it's impossible.

Edit: the only "town hall" type thing I could find from June 15ish was about the brutal murder of Robert Fuller by the Klan and it didn't say anything about CCWs.

Hilarious comments though, white woman calling up asking the sheriff about Neo Nazis in the sheriff's dept and about how they are discriminating in public housing. Yeah lady... it was a crazy homeless guy who killed himself, happens all the time, just usually not in such a dramatic way, but still.

I couldn't find any on June 16. The comment just says "4 days ago" and I'm not sure how it's counting days, so it could be referencing either the 15 or the 16, and again, I don't find anything from the 16th.

I think I found what the commenter might have been referring to: California's Concealed Carry Laws Enable Graft and Corruption, on a channel called Townhall Media, on the 16th, so that all fits. It's 25 minutes. He starts talking about the investigation into the Santa Clara Sheriff Smith, and her CCWs for sale program which the FBI is investigating. I forwarded through it and didn't find anything about the LA sheriff.
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Says posted 4 days ago, so June 16. The way their comments work, it doesn't let me easily find anything else posted by this same commentor so it's hard to judge, other than the post seems a bit of a rant and it's just an anonymous comment. Hard to believe that such an ultra-progressive as Sheriff V would do this, but... that doesn't mean it's impossible.
FWIW one of my sources PMed me early that evening saying AV said he'd liberalize issuance. I thought he was referring back to when AV said he'd issue more during the campaign. Now I see he was not, he was referring to this virtual town hall.

I'd LOVE to see an online video of that town hall to watch the relevant part myself and get an idea of when AV will make this change.

Plus, I noted there had been no change on LASD's CCW webpage's linked policies. I wonder if AV has already made the change, but is being coy about it, by not updating the materials, in order not to overwhelm his staff while they ramp up issuance?

If anyone is interested in a LASD CCW they might want to drop by or contact their CCW Unit to ask if/when any change in GC will be implemented.
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I understand the collective doubts about the idea of LA County liberalizing its issuance of CCW licenses. However, another calgunner in the original thread was very thoughtful and spoke to someone who also stated that CCW is a topic the Sheriff is working on.

The fact that it was acknowledged by a second person is something (if this is different from Paladin's source, it is a third source). If they are actively working on it, I do not believe it will come at lightning speed, since they have to staff up their CCW department which is probably comprised of two people at the moment. But who knows. If anything does change, as Paladin notes, there will be a flood of thousands of applications.

The real question is where is this video.

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... However, another calgunner in the original thread was very thoughtful and spoke to someone who also stated that CCW is a topic the Sheriff is working on.
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I just got informed by a CGNer that they have a "friend" who've been issued CCWs by AV. I'm awaiting further details and permission to post them (but not so much detail as to ID them). I'll be back online tonight.


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LA Times calls for more gun control laws
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I had a “Civilian Oversight Commission Town Hall” on my calendar from 6pm - 8pm on June 11th, but the WebEx link no longer works or has a replay.
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I just got informed by a CGNer that they have a "friend" who've been issued CCWs by AV. I'm awaiting further details and permission to post them (but not so much detail as to ID them). I'll be back online tonight.

Their friend lives in Glendora, which defers issuance of all CCWs to the LA Co Sheriff AV.
https://www.cityofglendora.org/depar...pons-licensing

The CGNer's friend renewed their CCW last Nov. under AV and used "Self Defense" as Good Cause.

It sounds hard to believe, but that's what the CGNer said. They're a long time CGN member with thousands of posts. (IOW not a troll.)

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Ok, let's say for argument sake AV does start issuing CCW's. Do we need to go in person or can we call and have mailed an application package? AZ just mailed me one.
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Ok, let's say for argument sake AV does start issuing CCW's. Do we need to go in person or can we call and have mailed an application package? AZ just mailed me one.
I can’t see LA operating at the efficiency of AZ. Either done online and submitted in person/mailed.
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I think this was the event, Monday, June 15, 2-4pm:
https://bit.ly/2XQ1JgF

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There was another virtual town hall (with El Monte CoP), but it was on Thursday, the 18th, after the LATimes comment and after my source mentioned it to me.

If someone can track down the A/V or even just the audio online and post/link it here, that would be a tremendous help.

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I sent the AV times an email asking about access to the recording, will update if there is any news.
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I sent the AV times an email asking about access to the recording, will update if there is any news.
Awesome, good call thank you!
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