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"Los Angeles County Sheriff Alex Villanueva Set To Visit Santa Clarita"
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Does anyone know what was discussed re. CCWs at the June meeting? I'd attend this meeting even if you don't live in Santa Clarita city since he's the sheriff for the entire county. Be sure to submit questions or be ready to ask them to the sheriff regarding CCWs. Sheriff Gore of San Diego County, 1/3rd the population of LA Co, just passed 3,700 CCWs.
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https://www.hometownstation.com/sant...meeting-281138 Los Angeles County Sheriff Alex Villanueva was expected to appear at a Santa Clarita town hall meeting Monday night, but was forced to respond to the shooting of an off-duty deputy inside an Alhambra Jack-in-the-Box. Quote:
baggss, should change the color of LACO to BLACK on his CCW map. To match the lying black heart of our current sheriff. |
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January 2020 California State audit of Los Angeles CCW program.
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Maybe (relatively) old news to some of us following the coronavirus situation in LA, but here it is:
“I’m a supporter of the 2nd amendment, I’m a gun owner myself, but now you have the mixture of people that are not formerly gun owners and you have a lot more people at home and anytime you introduce a firearm in a home, from what I understand from CDC studies, it increases fourfold the chance that someone is gonna get shot.” - Alex Villanueva. Read the full article here: https://www.foxla.com/news/la-county...ties-to-patrol How unfortunate for those unlucky people who now just started taking serious steps about protecting themselves at home as we are all staying home and crime is expected to rise due to desperate situations. Our Sheriff just took the ability away from the people who wish to protect their homes and families by depriving them of the tools to do so. I know this is unrelated to CCW discussion, but based on this, it appears that the Dark Red map designation for LA County CCW is going to stay Dark Red for a long time. |
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And while Villanueva prevented law abiding citizens from protecting themselves at home, he released 1,700 inmates in LA County.
Read the article here: https://ktla.com/news/local-news/170...-sheriff-says/ Am I the only person who feels something is backwards here? |
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Once elected, throw citizens to the wolves, and let the wolves out of jail. |
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so current status of obtaining a CCW from either Los Angeles Sheriff or LAPD is basically impossible?
i live in the city of LA considering applying to LAPD for ccw do you guys think i have any chance with the following for good cause? d) The applicant establishes that circumstances exist requiring him or her to transport in public significant amounts of valuable property which it is impractical or impracticable to entrust to the protection of armored car services or equivalent services for safe transportation of valuables; my parents (senior citizens) own a small jewelry business in Los Angeles i have carried merchandise and cash for them made deliveries of jewelry and picked up cash payment i have carried up to $70,000 in cash for the business the business is registered in my mom's name I am not on any payroll for the business but i do have business cards in my name for my "day job" I am a licensed attorney practicing law so I worry whether the GC will be taken seriously because I have a separate job but my office is located just a few blocks away from my parents' business and the deliveries/pickups are made in the evenings welcome any thoughts and comments |
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Move out of the S*** HOLE that is L.A. County and you will get your permit!
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Next, you've identified the relevant issues: you're neither an owner or an employee of the company, despite your volunteer work for them. As a lawyer, ask yourself if something happened to you while helping them, would they be legally liable for you? As a son (daughter?) I can understand why you put yourself (and them) in this legally questionable position, but as a lawyer, why have you allowed it to remain thus??? My advice: become an owner along with them. If you do that, you have a reasonable (I won't say solid) chance of getting issued. If you only become an employee, I have no reason to believe AV will issue to you. He may or he may not (the latter the default setting for LACSD). Of course, if that is not feasible, just wait along with the rest of us for SCOTUS to rule in NYSRPA and see what that transport case gives us re. carry ("bear"). We should find out sometime in the next 3 months (before July 01). If SCOTUS doesn't say much re. carry in it, there are about a half dozen SCOTUS and CA9 carry cases suspended pending a decision in NYSRPA. Those cases will move the ball down field. See: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1486495 Be sure to go through all my posts in the following thread re. applying in CoCoCo: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1482924 Since you're new, this is the CA CCW Good Cause map. The implications are worth pondering.
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9Cal_OC bring ups a good point: some cities within LA Co issue CCWs too. But you must live in an incorporated city with it's own police department and chief of police. If your city contracts with the sheriff for police services, they won't issue separately. If 2AmericanDream lives in a city with it's own PD and CoP, I'd apply with them first and get denied before applying with the sheriff. Yes, LAPD issues more readily than LACSD. But, frankly, the more I think about it, unless you have reason to think you'll be at increased risk in the next 3 months vs the last 3, I'd wait the less than 3 months until SCOTUS decides NYSRPA before doing anything. In the mean time, practice situational awareness (Cooper's Color Code), every day carry (EDC) pepper spray and obey the 4-Stupids Rule (avoid going to Stupid places, avoid being around Stupid people, avoid doing Stupid things and avoid being out at Stupid times).
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According to this -> https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/l...ermits/137623/
I really doubt LAPD issues more readily unless you want to count LAPD issuing 2 if LASD issued 0 or 1 (but I have a feeling LASD issued at least 2). |
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If we win Assenza, LAPD might have to follow the terms of that settlement to ALL otherwise qualified City of LA residents who apply for LAPD CCWs. In the City of LA, that will be many thousands of people! If you qualify under Assenza, you may want to have your application completely filled out and ready to submit at a moment's notice.
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240+ examples of CCWs Saving Lives. Last edited by Paladin; 04-16-2020 at 10:30 AM.. |
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I did read the settlement and came across this: Quote:
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If you qualify under Assenza, you may want to contact C.D. Michel, Esq., or an associate re. applying.
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Even then I think it might be a push to say that I'm "required" to transport said valuable property. In another scenario a firearm can be considered valuable property and although you have to pick it up from a gun store to take back home I'm not sure if a CCW is going to be issued for something like that. Yes there's no other way to transport it but they'll push you around by saying something like "you're not required to make that purchase". |
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If I were you, I'd wait to see what happens with NYSRPA case. We hope to get a win in that before July 01. That case might help us win a Right to Bear Arms, either directly or indirectly under other pending Carry Cases. Keep up with it at: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1486495 If that doesn't work out, move just inside the border of the neighboring county closest to your place of work.
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http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/blog.php?bt=282 You may want to PM him for his thoughts/suggestions.
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I will have a discussion with them. If that does happen, then I will definitely make that my good cause for the CCW application. If not, moving to a new city with its own police department is also possibility in the future |
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https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...2#post24198512
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There was an article posted in a CA politics litigation and activism forum thread which I am referring to here.
Article from thread: https://www.latimes.com/opinion/stor...icide-homicide In the comments, someone wrote that AV would be issuing permits now because of the pandemic. The article commenter said the sheriff made the statement about ccw in a virtual town hall 3 days ago. I am looking for it but cannot find the town hall recording. Has anyone had luck verifying this? Attached is the comment Last edited by prkcty; 06-19-2020 at 6:32 PM.. |
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Hmm. Most interesting.
So far, neither the Licensing Policy nor the CCW Policy have been updated/replaced at: https://lasd.org/ccw_info.html They both have his predecessor's restrictive GC language. I would think CGN's LA Co members would be climbing over themselves to find out if this is true.... For some perspective on how big this could be: usually, after Shall Issue (or in this case SD = GC), ~3-5% of the adult population gets CCWs. LA Co is ~10M. Let's say 8M are >21. 1% of 8M is 80,000. Let's go conservative: 3%, that's 240,000 CCWers! Right now, our state total is only >120,000, so that would be an increase of 200% I can't wait to find out if this is true. Quote:
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I'm holding my breath!
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Here's the full comment in text form:
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Edit: the only "town hall" type thing I could find from June 15ish was about the brutal murder of Robert Fuller by the Klan and it didn't say anything about CCWs. Hilarious comments though, white woman calling up asking the sheriff about Neo Nazis in the sheriff's dept and about how they are discriminating in public housing. Yeah lady... it was a crazy homeless guy who killed himself, happens all the time, just usually not in such a dramatic way, but still. I couldn't find any on June 16. The comment just says "4 days ago" and I'm not sure how it's counting days, so it could be referencing either the 15 or the 16, and again, I don't find anything from the 16th. I think I found what the commenter might have been referring to: California's Concealed Carry Laws Enable Graft and Corruption, on a channel called Townhall Media, on the 16th, so that all fits. It's 25 minutes. He starts talking about the investigation into the Santa Clara Sheriff Smith, and her CCWs for sale program which the FBI is investigating. I forwarded through it and didn't find anything about the LA sheriff.
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I'd LOVE to see an online video of that town hall to watch the relevant part myself and get an idea of when AV will make this change. Plus, I noted there had been no change on LASD's CCW webpage's linked policies. I wonder if AV has already made the change, but is being coy about it, by not updating the materials, in order not to overwhelm his staff while they ramp up issuance? If anyone is interested in a LASD CCW they might want to drop by or contact their CCW Unit to ask if/when any change in GC will be implemented.
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I understand the collective doubts about the idea of LA County liberalizing its issuance of CCW licenses. However, another calgunner in the original thread was very thoughtful and spoke to someone who also stated that CCW is a topic the Sheriff is working on.
The fact that it was acknowledged by a second person is something (if this is different from Paladin's source, it is a third source). If they are actively working on it, I do not believe it will come at lightning speed, since they have to staff up their CCW department which is probably comprised of two people at the moment. But who knows. If anything does change, as Paladin notes, there will be a flood of thousands of applications. The real question is where is this video. Last edited by prkcty; 06-20-2020 at 8:45 AM.. |
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I just got informed by a CGNer that they have a "friend" who've been issued CCWs by AV. I'm awaiting further details and permission to post them (but not so much detail as to ID them). I'll be back online tonight.
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LA Times calls for more gun control laws https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/top...ink_source=app 35-37 |
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https://www.cityofglendora.org/depar...pons-licensing The CGNer's friend renewed their CCW last Nov. under AV and used "Self Defense" as Good Cause. It sounds hard to believe, but that's what the CGNer said. They're a long time CGN member with thousands of posts. (IOW not a troll.) ymmv
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Ok, let's say for argument sake AV does start issuing CCW's. Do we need to go in person or can we call and have mailed an application package? AZ just mailed me one.
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I can’t see LA operating at the efficiency of AZ. Either done online and submitted in person/mailed.
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I think this was the event, Monday, June 15, 2-4pm:
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If someone can track down the A/V or even just the audio online and post/link it here, that would be a tremendous help.
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240+ examples of CCWs Saving Lives. Last edited by Paladin; 06-21-2020 at 8:28 AM.. |
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