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Old 02-11-2021, 1:54 PM
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What’s up with the ICU numbers in OC? The were increasing daily, topping out at about 544 a couple of weeks ago. Stay at Home Orders lifted and the number has been steadily decreasing since (along with the number of positive cases). The ICU number is now at 298.
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Well there it was clearly the post holiday visit surge in cases which comes with the added benefit of all those people can’t get sick again theoretically which slows the spread same way it can exponentially spread it can also die off exponentially


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We were in really bad shape early January, and people were staying home.

Virus spread less, fewer people getting sick, ICU numbers go down.
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because it's all bull crap
Yeah bro. All the nurses and doctors who treat people are making **** up. Totally.
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We were in really bad shape early January, and people were staying home.

Virus spread less, fewer people getting sick, ICU numbers go down.
Maybe in West LA but wasn’t nobody staying home here in OC. The entire story was sensationalized bull ****.
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Yeah bro. All the nurses and doctors who treat people are making **** up. Totally.
I made no extra money from the surge.. My pay stayed the same, hours stayed the same.


The docs get the same money treating 0 patients, as they treat 100.. you get paid to be there ready to do work or not. Kinda like a clerk.. no business or busy, you get the same money.
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We were in really bad shape early January, and people were staying home.

Virus spread less, fewer people getting sick, ICU numbers go down.
The thing that gets me, I think you really believe this. Here, maybe this will help you... By the way, NET means northeast Tennessee. We wear no masks and sit down for breakfast among other non maskers. Every day, never changed.

Explain this from this morning's paper.



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By the way, there were 17 influenza admissions at the local big hospitals here this year. 17. There was never the big push for flu shots.... why? I barely even saw anything about it, go figure.
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The thing that gets me, I think you really believe this. Here, maybe this will help you... By the way, NET means northeast Tennessee. We wear no masks and sit down for breakfast among other non maskers. Every day, never changed.

Explain this from this morning's paper.



It's a clown show Mike, political theater, a goof.
There was never the big push for flu shots.... why? I barely even saw anything about it, go figure.
There is if you're in healthcare. We still had to get them. They were still provided.

Also, we put out an extra 20 million doses of flu vaccine last year than the year before.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/flu-nu...ry?id=74783195

Once again, in order for your theories to be true, there has to be a massive conspiracy across all levels of the health field, from janitors to nurses to executives. In no other scenario are the published numbers NOT reflective of reality.
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The docs get the same money treating 0 patients, as they treat 100.. you get paid to be there ready to do work or not. Kinda like a clerk.. no business or busy, you get the same money.
Not true. Docs get paid more by the more patients they see and especially billing for Critical care, makes for good money!

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Yeah bro. All the nurses and doctors who treat people are making **** up. Totally.
Yep BS. My buddy is the head at a local hospital here in OC... total BS. They had at 2 of their hospitals only 15 patients in the ICU with Covid...

Beds weren't an issue, staffing was an issue.

And as treatment goes, nothing too crazy because only so much you can do

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Yep BS. My buddy is the head at a local hospital here in OC... total BS. They had at 2 of their hospitals only 15 patients in the ICU with Covid...

Beds weren't an issue, staffing was an issue.

And as treatment goes, nothing too crazy because only so much you can do

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"They had at 2 of their hospitals only 15 patients in the ICU with Covid..."

When was this?



And to the point about staffing ... yeah. That was a big talk earlier about ICU beds. The gear is easy ... the people who run it is hard.
December to January. No big influx. I even have pictures when I dropped of labs for my facility... no one around... but it was so busy, lol

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December to January. No big influx. I even have pictures when I dropped of labs for my facility... no one around... but it was so busy, lol

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**** man, you guys lucked out then.

Our census was fuuuuuuuuucked in Dec / early-mid Jan. It was way, way higher than it was back in the first surge.
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Our census was fuuuuuuuuucked in Dec / early-mid Jan. It was way, way higher than it was back in the first surge.
First surge that never really happened? Lol. My facility had huge outbreak, but wasn't that bad, just staffing issues because of Newsom

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USC, White Memorial, St. John's? If you show me yours I'll show you mine...

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So one week later and the ICU has dropped to 230 (68 in the week). The number hospitalized (including ICU) is at 663. Pretty sure it was in the 1200 range at the height.

I get why there are fewer positive cases being reported but still don’t understand the drastic reduction in hospitalization/ICU numbers.

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So one week later and the ICU has dropped to 230 (68 in the week). The number hospitalized (including ICU) is at 663. Pretty sure it was in the 1200 range at the height.

I get why there are fewer positive cases being reported but still don’t understand the drastic number of hospitalization numbers.
And how many of those patients actually needed to be hospitalized? How many, if we didn't have the "Covid scare", would have simply stayed home and toughed it out?

Ive had the flu/respiratory thing so bad, in past years, that I had trouble breathing and it took two to three months to finally clear up. Never saw a doctor about any of it.
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And how many of those patients actually needed to be hospitalized? How many, if we didn't have the "Covid scare", would have simply stayed home and toughed it out?

Ive had the flu/respiratory thing so bad, in past years, that I had trouble breathing and it took two to three months to finally clear up. Never saw a doctor about any of it.
See.... that's the thing. If you stampede the horses, they will show up for every little supposed symptom, real or imagined. You end up creating a crisis where none existed.... which was necessary to pump the numbers up and have an excuse for the power grab.
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So one week later and the ICU has dropped to 230 (68 in the week). The number hospitalized (including ICU) is at 663. Pretty sure it was in the 1200 range at the height.

I get why there are fewer positive cases being reported but still don’t understand the drastic reduction in hospitalization/ICU numbers.
I've been tracking OC numbers since December. Peak hospitalization was 2259 on Jan 9th (including ICU) and peak ICU was 547 on Jan 10th. As of 2/19 hospitalization/ICU numbers are: 636/215.
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I've been tracking OC numbers since December. Peak hospitalization was 2259 on Jan 9th (including ICU) and peak ICU was 547 on Jan 10th. As of 2/19 hospitalization/ICU numbers are: 636/215.
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I've been tracking OC numbers since December. Peak hospitalization was 2259 on Jan 9th (including ICU) and peak ICU was 547 on Jan 10th. As of 2/19 hospitalization/ICU numbers are: 636/215.
The interesting thing is that while those numbers above track Covid cases hospitalized and/or in ICU, overall hosptial census in OC hasn’t statistically fluctuated much over the past few years.

In other words, the hospitals and ICU’s were never “over run”. And FYI, Hosptials are required by license to be able to “surge” ICU beds by 25%. So, ICU’s in hospitals can be 125% full before they are actually full.

All of Newsome’s metrics about “adjusted ICU beds available” being ZERO were and are simply BS.
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We are seeing herd immunity. It is predicted to be here in April. We are immunizing the old people who are actually sickened by the virus. The immune system tests are only half the story, they were not considering T-cell immunity.

In short the virus is running out of suspectable individuals

They also changed the PCR replication technical procedure to reduce false positives. That brings down "cases".

Now that orange man is gone they want to look like they are helping. The media works for the DNC so you are now seeing a positive spin when possible.

We are also seeing glimmers of hope about getting kits back in school. The truth of their susceptibility is being spoken out loud in the mainstream media.

The fact that the country is about to implode financially is obvious. Unless the DNC makes steps to avert that the republicans will win big in two years.

In short the covid crisis is now a liability to the DNC. .
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It is odd how covid believers do not want to let go. Against all evidence and rational thinking they still insist that covid is a dangerous killer virus and we should all be huddled away with five masks on.
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It is odd how covid believers do not want to let go. Against all evidence and rational thinking they still insist that covid is a dangerous killer virus and we should all be huddled away with five masks on.
Well, the last big cheerleader disappeared on 2/15, after he got soundly spanked on the use of HCQ/Zinc for treatment of COVID.
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Ive had the flu/respiratory thing so bad, in past years, that I had trouble breathing and it took two to three months to finally clear up. Never saw a doctor about any of it.
Why not? They won't bite you.
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Funny how suddenly it now requires 40% more cases to be “purple”. From 7/1,000 to 10/1,000. it’s like how they decided to stop going after shoplifters and drug dealers and announced “crime is going down”.


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