Shellshock 380 Case reloading

[BeFrank]

I have been using shellshocks 9mm stainless steel cases as well as brass cases for reloading and have had good luck with them.
I recently received some of their new 380 cases and will try some loads.
The website doesn't have any resizing dies for the 380 yet but for now I'm just going to load the new cases and get some data.
Does anyone else have any experience with these cases in 9MM or 380?
I will start with some BE86 and CFE Pistol.

[TKM]

It's not like 40/10mm or 38/357. The cases are different enough to need different dies. Good luck.

[TomReloaded]

Brass 9mm is getting loaded close to 50kpsi for 9 major in competition. The new cases don't really seem to fill a gap, they just cost more.

It's a neat idea, i just think it's misplaced, especially in 9mm. In 380, the guns tend to be the limiting factor.

[Flouncer]

I had a quick look at the Shellshock site because I questioned " stainless steel cases". As far as I can tell they are nickel alloy. Many of us have re-loaded nickel plated cases without issue. What precludes the use of conventional or carbide sizing dies ?

[Sandspider500]

^^^It will rip the case head off with normal carbide dies. I've tried a few with lube and normal carbide, I was able to size a few, the rest separated. You have to use their dies which have some kind of stout spring in them that pushes the case out instead of being pulled out by the rim. I have a hard enough time looking for my 9mm largo cases in the sea of 9x19 on the ground already. Even though the shell shock cases look different enough it sounds like a pain in the arse to me.

9mm and 380 is cheap and plentiful. If shooting 9, I usually shoot a mag and then just pick up 10 or more random cases on the ground, 95% of them are once fired. The range officers usually let me take all I want as well.

[bergmen]

"Solid Aircraft-Grade Aluminum Base". There is no such thing as "Aircraft-Grade Aluminum", it does not exist.

Dan

[BeFrank]

Originally Posted by TomReloaded

Brass 9mm is getting loaded close to 50kpsi for 9 major in competition. The new cases don't really seem to fill a gap, they just cost more.

It's a neat idea, i just think it's misplaced, especially in 9mm. In 380, the guns tend to be the limiting factor.

The cases are less expensive and lighter than brass. Reloading more than 20-30 times is common.

[Sandspider500]

Once fired brass is cheap. After you fire 10 rounds, you just pick up 10 more once fired brass. Rinse and repeat. After that first purchase, it's kinda like an endless supply.

[Corbin Dallas]

Ok, help me out here.

Why is shellshock better than brass 380 cases? I mean it’s not like they’re being loaded to the top of the sammi scale, right?

[BeFrank]

Originally Posted by Sandspider500

Once fired brass is cheap. After you fire 10 rounds, you just pick up 10 more once fired brass. Rinse and repeat. After that first purchase, it's kinda like an endless supply.

Yes, free 9mm is easy to find, 380 not so much. This isn't about the pros and cons of these cases so much as it is sharing load data and experience with the product.

[BeFrank]

Originally Posted by Corbin Dallas

Ok, help me out here.

Why is shellshock better than brass 380 cases? I mean it’s not like they’re being loaded to the top of the sammi scale, right?

For me, since I like the 9mm reload process and performance I thought I would try the 380, $120 for a thousand vs star line brass $167.50 seems like a reasonable experiment.
I usually load at the top end 90-95gr HP's to get close to 1000fps out of my P238.

What I like about the 9mm cases is the simplicity of the resizing process, I generally get better ballistic performance than brass, increased lubricity for feeding and extraction, comes out of the gun slightly warm, not hot.
What I don't like is how far the gun throws the case due to the reduced mass and how hard it is to find the cases on ground that has gravel on it.

[Corbin Dallas]

Wait, you resize 9mm to 380auto?

Did I read that correctly?

[stormvet]

Never heard of it before, guess if your just starting out and need casing. Maybe it’s the future, but for now gonna stick with my old brass.

[Sandspider500]

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/962216344

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/960381083

[pacrat]

Originally Posted by bergmen

"Solid Aircraft-Grade Aluminum Base". There is no such thing as "Aircraft-Grade Aluminum", it does not exist.

Dan

Sure it does. ALL aluminum is "Aircraft Grade". Not just any singular ONE of the multitude of alloys and T ratings.

Because ALL the different alloys are used in different applications in the industry.

[BeFrank]

Originally Posted by Corbin Dallas

Wait, you resize 9mm to 380auto?

Did I read that correctly?

Sorry if I wasn't clear
I do not resize 9mm to 380
The 9mm Shellshock cases are easy to resize.

[bergmen]

Originally Posted by pacrat

Sure it does. ALL aluminum is "Aircraft Grade". Not just any singular ONE of the multitude of alloys and T ratings.

Because ALL the different alloys are used in different applications in the industry.

The words "Aircraft Grade" are not used in any aluminum material specifications anywhere. Various alloys and "T" and "H" types are used in the aircraft industry but nobody specifies or defines any aluminum as "Aircraft Grade". Just as there are no "Aircraft Grade" titaniums, steel or stainless steels, just alloy and temper or hardness specifications. It is just marketing pap.

Dan