Ventura County Poachers

[TheDadLife]

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/coo...-and-wildlife/

I hope they get what’s coming to them.

[deckhandmike]

They only hammer the white poachers. The rest get let off with almost nothing.

[yoteassasin]

Originally Posted by deckhandmike

They only hammer the white poachers. The rest get let off with almost nothing.

Aint that the truth.

[CartridgeCalls]

Wow. What a bunch of Aholes.

[racinjason233]

My guess is they are back at it before the new year. I didn’t see any mention of the guns being confiscated.

[johnnyh75]

I been in small shop before that old man is an *** i hope they get what's coming to them

[TheDadLife]

The whole thing sucks, they decimated one of my spots too.

[krypto99]

Originally Posted by deckhandmike

They only hammer the white poachers. The rest get let off with almost nothing.

This is what I have mostly seen in the field. I hope these dudes get the book tossed at em but I highly doubt that will happen.

[theduracellbigd]

Originally Posted by deckhandmike

They only hammer the white poachers. The rest get let off with almost nothing.

This. I once watched a DFG guy in a boat pass a dozen of Mexican fisherman on shore with no license (back in the wear your license in the open days) then pull over a boater to shake him down.

[God Bless America]

Originally Posted by yoteassasin

Aint that the truth.

"The men involved, identified in public records as Martin M. Bravo, Martin Bravo Sr., Jaime Mendoza Avila, Walfre Lopez y Lopez, Gilberto Lopez Hernandez and Cristian Lopez Perez,...

The group allegedly worked with the cooperation of Juventino Reyes Guerrero,..."

Que muy blanco jaja

[deckhandmike]

I don’t mean to be rude but I just keep seeing this over and over and over. After so many times you got to be honest and just call it like you see it.

[yoteassasin]

Originally Posted by God Bless America

"The men involved, identified in public records as Martin M. Bravo, Martin Bravo Sr., Jaime Mendoza Avila, Walfre Lopez y Lopez, Gilberto Lopez Hernandez and Cristian Lopez Perez,...

The group allegedly worked with the cooperation of Juventino Reyes Guerrero,..."

Que muy blanco jaja

You realize Hispanics are considered white right ? I want to know when the damn black market wild duck markets get rounded up in Chinatown . And when was the last time you heard of a commercial abalone arrest ? Or bear gallbladder sting . Certain people get left alone because it’s primarily organized crime funding the criminal actors. Hey kinda like blm looters not getting arrested in Walnut Creek … same thing

[Irishfisher]

I don't buy this narrative. I have a friend who is a deputy district attorney and has been is multiple counties. He has personally prosecuted CDFW poaching and exceeding limit fishing cases against violators who happened to be asians and were selling their catch commercially. A quick search of CDFW's News Feed shows quite a mix of ethnicities (surnames).

I also used to work in rural southern Monterey County. The wardens out there were always on the lookout for certain poaching rings from the Frenso area, who happended to be Asian.

My experience has been that most wardens are more than happy to arrest anyone who is a legitimate violator.

[krypto99]

Originally Posted by Irishfisher

I don't buy this narrative. I have a friend who is a deputy district attorney and has been is multiple counties. He has personally prosecuted CDFW poaching and exceeding limit fishing cases against violators who happened to be asians and were selling their catch commercially. A quick search of CDFW's News Feed shows quite a mix of ethnicities (surnames).

I also used to work in rural southern Monterey County. The wardens out there were always on the lookout for certain poaching rings from the Frenso area, who happended to be Asian.

My experience has been that most wardens are more than happy to arrest anyone who is a legitimate violator.

I can’t speak for Monterey County as I’m not from there. I can say my local pier and forest land tell a different story. Over limits, under sized, out of season, illegal methods of take, doesn’t matter. It’s the same folks over and over again. Not a warden to be seen. Yet when I come back to the boat ramp and show my catch and license to mr green pants while following all the confusing laws I get a shake down anyways. A spade is a spade.

[deckhandmike]

Originally Posted by krypto99

I can’t speak for Monterey County as I’m not from there. I can say my local pier and forest land tell a different story. Over limits, under sized, out of season, illegal methods of take, doesn’t matter. It’s the same folks over and over again. Not a warden to be seen. Yet when I come back to the boat ramp and show my catch and license to mr green pants while following all the confusing laws I get a shake down anyways. A spade is a spade.

My exact experiences. And I dislike poachers of every type. So take this as an observation, not a slight against anyone.

[FJ40 CRUZR]

Originally Posted by deckhandmike

My exact experiences. And I dislike poachers of every type. So take this as an observation, not a slight against anyone.

Morro bay ramp for example?

A friend was I think 1-2 rock cod over, complete shakedown and citation.

[deckhandmike]

Originally Posted by FJ40 CRUZR

Morro bay ramp for example?

A friend was I think 1-2 rock cod over, complete shakedown and citation.

I have no issue with someone getting cited for over limits. I do however have a problem with very select enforcement. Always see the same folks getting searched while others never getting a look at. It’s pretty obvious that they hold certain people to a higher standard.

[FJ40 CRUZR]

Originally Posted by deckhandmike

I have no issue with someone getting cited for over limits. I do however have a problem with very select enforcement. Always see the same folks getting searched while others never getting a look at. It’s pretty obvious that they hold certain people to a higher standard.

True.

However when u have 4-5 guys on a boat and everyone gets 10, so 40-50 fish it’s not that hard to be 1 over. It’s not an excuse it just happens, so why not a warning? Nope $400 fine.

Now every time he goes guess who gets checked.

[180ls1]

Originally Posted by FJ40 CRUZR

True.

However when u have 4-5 guys on a boat and everyone gets 10, so 40-50 fish it’s not that hard to be 1 over. It’s not an excuse it just happens, so why not a warning? Nope $400 fine.

Now every time he goes guess who gets checked.

In my book, you get 1 warning for a mistake then tickets after that. Generally speaking.

[Jeepergeo]

Originally Posted by FJ40 CRUZR

Morro bay ramp for example?

A friend was I think 1-2 rock cod over, complete shakedown and citation.

Keeping count is not hard. Citation earned.

[krypto99]

Originally Posted by Jeepergeo

Keeping count is not hard. Citation earned.

With rockfish specifically, there's more to it than having 11 fish instead of 10 a fish limit. I wish it was that simple. There are many varieties of rockfish that look very similar and there are rockfish sub category limits. For example if you only catch two copper rockfish you are over the limit. It's easy to misidentify a variety and be over limit.


from DFG:

The daily bag and possession limit is 10 fish in combination of all species within the RCG Complex (includes all species of Rockfish, Cabezon and Greenlings) per person, with a sub-limit on vermilion rockfish (4 fish per person), copper rockfish (1 fish per person), and quillback rockfish (1 fish per person), also included in the 10-fish RCG Complex aggregate limit. Yelloweye rockfish, bronzespotted rockfish(opens in new tab), and cowcod may not be retained (bag limit: zero).

Rockfish are part of a group of fish known as groundfish, which includes over 90 species that live on or near the bottom of the ocean (with a few exceptions).

[deckhandmike]

The rockfish regs are stupid. You should keep the first ten fish you catch and then stop killing stuff. It makes no sense to keep throwing stuff back. Rockfish can be properly released if fished shallow but it’s not easy to do.

[Bull Elk]

If the state really wants to stop poaching, make poaching a mandatory prison sentence of 10 years, a $500K fine per occurrence and no reduced sentence for good behavior. I bet that slows them down.

[stonefly-2]

I recently stumbled on the you tube interviews of a couple of poachers that have also written books about their exploits and growing up in south Texas.

Charles Beatty and Pat Lane.

I won't say it's softened my outlook on poachers any

(particularly the ones that just take the horns)

but it has opened my eyes to some hunting history I had no Idea about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MTZCxfbttc

[TheDadLife]

This time last year I passed on 25 doe, in hopes for a buck. This year that spot had 2 doe. I went else where. These guys literally cleaned house. One can only hope they drop the soap.

[newbutold]

Dirt bags should be deported.

[Irishfisher]

Originally Posted by newbutold

Dirt bags should be deported.

Where do you deport U.S. citizens?

[newbutold]

Originally Posted by Irishfisher

Where do you deport U.S. citizens?

Felons with firearms? Back to prison.