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So I'm working on my new AR-9 and had planned on using my Odin Works O2-Lite handguard. But, apparently it doesn't fit flush with my billet upper. I have other handguards I could use with this upper and put the O2 on a different build.

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Billet uppers often have issues with hand guards and fitment.

That would probably bug me too.
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I would fix it. Can you take some material off the handguard adapter or receiver, so that it screw onto the receiver further.
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soch a small gap It would not bother me/
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Would bother me. 2 options, new upper or new hanguard. Was the upper a match to the lower? If so I'd get same manufacturer handguard. Otherwise I'd get Odin upper receiver.
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Would bother me. 2 options, new upper or new hanguard. Was the upper a match to the lower? If so I'd get same manufacturer handguard. Otherwise I'd get Odin upper receiver.
The upper isn't a perfect match to the lower but they do match up pretty nicely. I went with this upper to save some money, got it on sale for $50. The Odin upper is pretty expensive, and is currently OOS.
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Is the lower also billet? How does a standard upper match up to your lower?

If a standard upper matches well with your lower, I would just swap it out and use a standard upper.

They are cheap, and that would solve the gap issue.
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Is the lower also billet? How does a standard upper match up to your lower?

If a standard upper matches well with your lower, I would just swap it out and use a standard upper.

They are cheap, and that would solve the gap issue.
The lower is a billet lower made by NFA for Dirty Bird. I haven't put standard upper on it to see how it looks. Though I just did after reading your post. It doesn't look bad, though the only ones I have include the forward assist and dust cover. I kind of like the way the PCC uppers look with out them.

I really want to use this handguard as the whole point to the build was to be lite weight.

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I just found this Anderson upper with no forward assist and dust cover. https://www.omegamanufacturinginc.co...mfg-upper.html
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Well, I put on the other handguard and really liked the way it lined up with this upper. It's not as light as the O2-LITE, but it's not bad. The O2-LITE weighs 5.6 oz without the hardware and the Dirty Bird weighs 8.9 oz without the hardware. I didn't weigh them with the hardware but they both use aluminum barrel nuts.

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Well, I put on the other handguard and really liked the way it lined up with this upper. It's not as light as the O2-LITE, but it's not bad. The O2-LITE weighs 5.6 oz without the hardware and the Dirty Bird weighs 8.9 oz without the hardware. I didn't weigh them with the hardware but they both use aluminum barrel nuts.

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That looks nice. Did you paint your barrel red? How many ounces is the buffer you are going to use?
No, it's an Odin Works Super Lite barrel. It's a 5.5" SS barrel with a 16" permanently attached shroud. The shroud is anodized red and I have other Odin Works red anodized parts for this build.

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Well, I put on the other handguard and really liked the way it lined up with this upper. It's not as light as the O2-LITE, but it's not bad. The O2-LITE weighs 5.6 oz without the hardware and the Dirty Bird weighs 8.9 oz without the hardware. I didn't weigh them with the hardware but they both use aluminum barrel nuts.

Now to put the lower together.


Only one possible issue I see with that handguard.. It may be a illusion because of the camera angle, but will the lower fit on and properly tilt with the front pin in, and the rear pin out? The area between the front take down lug and the lower part of the handguard looks mighty small..
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Only one possible issue I see with that handguard.. It may be a illusion because of the camera angle, but will the lower fit on and properly tilt with the front pin in, and the rear pin out? The area between the front take down lug and the lower part of the handguard looks mighty small..
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So I'm working on my new AR-9 and had planned on using my Odin Works O2-Lite handguard. But, apparently it doesn't fit flush with my billet upper. I have other handguards I could use with this upper and put the O2 on a different build.

Would you use a different handguard?

Would you buy an Odin Works upper that would work with their O2 handguard?

The screws holes in the handguard look to be slotted.
Loosen the screws and slide the handguard rearward.
If the handguard is hitting the receiver, clearance the handguard to allow it to slide back more.
If the barrel nut stops it, machine inside the barrel nut to let the barrel nut thread further on to the receiver.

There are lots of ways to close up that gap.
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is there a height difference? or are you worried about the gap?

it's seriously fine to shoot, jsut zero it out.

unless the ocd is killing you
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The screws holes in the handguard look to be slotted.
Loosen the screws and slide the handguard rearward.
If the handguard is hitting the receiver, clearance the handguard to allow it to slide back more.
If the barrel nut stops it, machine inside the barrel nut to let the barrel nut thread further on to the receiver.

There are lots of ways to close up that gap.
The Odin Works O2-Lite handguard has an anti-rotation feature built into it.

In this picture you can see that it's not just a couple of simple "ears" that can be taken down.




As you know, billet uppers are a little bit larger than mil-spec ones. I knew this too, but I completely forgot that the O2-Lite had more than just simple "ears" for it's anti-rotation feature. With this particular handguard there really is no simple way to get it to fit a billet upper.
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is there a height difference? or are you worried about the gap?

it's seriously fine to shoot, jsut zero it out.

unless the ocd is killing you
That's it. A bunch of people agree with you but I just couldn't get over the gap, that's why I went with a different handguard for this build.
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The upper receiver probably cost 60 bucks. Get a billet one that matches your handguard if youre after the look.
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The Odin Works O2-Lite handguard has an anti-rotation feature built into it.

In this picture you can see that it's not just a couple of simple "ears" that can be taken down.




As you know, billet uppers are a little bit larger than mil-spec ones. I knew this too, but I completely forgot that the O2-Lite had more than just simple "ears" for it's anti-rotation feature. With this particular handguard there really is no simple way to get it to fit a billet upper.
Sure there is.
Mill the ears off.
It makes no difference if the ears are 2/3 the height of the rail or just little tiny tabs.
An endmill goes through them either way.
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Those screw holes definitely are not round..
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Just shoot it. You will get over it sooner or later?

Lots of times Chinese crap doesn't fit our stuff. They use a different measuring system than we do so mistakes can and do happen.

Plus that they are Chinese and don't like us, even though, they couldn't exist without our markets and our technology which they steal every chance they get.

I maintain that they have never had an original Idea in their history. I have a Friend who is of Chinese Decent (born in LA) and he keeps telling me that they invented Gunpowder. I keep telling him that they stole it from some Goat Herder in Mongolia! Pretty sure I'm right on that one..

The other option is to take it to a machinist and have them modify it so it will fit flush or maybe just throw the blue thing in the trash.

The one thing I don't want to ever see on any gun I own, or would consider owning is,,, "Made in China!"

There are just some things that should not be!

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The upper receiver probably cost 60 bucks. Get a billet one that matches your handguard if youre after the look.
At regular price it's $60, I got it on sale for $50. Odin Works does have one that fits their handguards but it's twice as much and I didn't feel like spending that much with all the other money I was spending.
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Sure there is.
Mill the ears off.
It makes no difference if the ears are 2/3 the height of the rail or just little tiny tabs.
An endmill goes through them either way.
And, you're assuming I have the tools to complete that job. I have a small bench grinder that would have taken the little tabs off in a second and no one would ever know. But this is beyond what I have the ability or tools to do.
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Just shoot it. You will get over it sooner or later?

Lots of times Chinese crap doesn't fit our stuff. They use a different measuring system than we do so mistakes can and do happen.

Plus that they are Chinese and don't like us, even though, they couldn't exist without our markets and our technology which they steal every chance they get.

I maintain that they have never had an original Idea in their history. I have a Friend who is of Chinese Decent (born in LA) and he keeps telling me that they invented Gunpowder. I keep telling him that they stole it from some Goat Herder in Mongolia! Pretty sure I'm right on that one..

The other option is to take it to a machinist and have them modify it so it will fit flush or maybe just throw the blue thing in the trash.

The one thing I don't want to ever see on any gun I own, or would consider owning is,,, "Made in China!"

There are just some things that should not be!

Sorry about the Rant, I feel better now.

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You are probably looking at the second picture in my first post and see something that says made in China but you apparently didn't bother to read post 4 or have no idea what that is a picture of.
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And, you're assuming I have the tools to complete that job.
I have a small bench grinder that would have taken the little tabs off in a second and no one would ever know.
But this is beyond what I have the ability or tools to do.
I'm not assuming anything.
You asked "what would you do?"
I have the abilities and tools so I would do what I said above.

It's none of my concern what your abilities or tools are.
Someone else would probably tell you to bring it to me if you don't have the abilities/tools.
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I'm not assuming anything.
You asked "what would you do?"
I have the abilities and tools so I would do what I said above.

It's none of my concern what your abilities or tools are.
Someone else would probably tell you to bring it to me if you don't have the abilities/tools.
Yeah, but modifying it wasn't any of the options that I laid out.

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Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

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”Benitez 3:29 Thou shall not limit magazine capacity”

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