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need projectile suggestions (223, 16" 1:8 AR, H4895 or IMR 4064)
going to start reloading for my new AR. 16" heavy barrel, 1:8 twist. I have H4895 and IMR 4064. will test at 100y and likely not shoot past 300y.
Main purpose for now is just to find the limits of accuracy for my rifle. should I just go for SIE HPBT 77 grain or is there a good reason to try for something lighter (or heavier)? |
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I should get some 55s, 69s, and 77s for a thorough test
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Cartridge : .223 Rem. (SAAMI) Bullet : .224, 69, Sierra HPBT MatchK 1380 G7 Litz Useable Case Capaci: 25.121 grain H2O = 1.631 cm³ Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.260 inch = 57.40 mm Barrel Length : 16.0 inch = 406.4 mm Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders. Matching Maximum Pressure: 55000 psi, or 379 MPa or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 102 % These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window. C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations. USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON ! 18 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 60%. These powders have been skipped. Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time % Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms --------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Alliant AR-Comp *C *T 102.0 22.8 1.48 2760 100.0 55000 10539 0.840 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Winchester 748 98.2 24.5 1.59 2747 96.1 55000 11405 0.840 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Hodgdon BL-C2 100.8 25.5 1.65 2736 94.8 55000 11542 0.848 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Accurate 2520 101.3 24.7 1.60 2731 96.9 55000 11259 0.856 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Hodgdon H322 98.7 22.2 1.44 2717 98.5 55000 10748 0.842 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Hodgdon H335 93.1 23.5 1.52 2712 97.7 55000 10919 0.847 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Hodgdon H4895 102.0 23.6 1.53 2710 94.0 54522 11281 0.854 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Ramshot Wild Boar 100.5 24.9 1.61 2710 93.1 55000 11222 0.846 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! SNPE Vectan SP 10 92.6 22.9 1.48 2709 97.6 55000 10889 0.850 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Accurate 2495 102.0 23.1 1.50 2700 99.2 51891 11160 0.900 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N530 *C 98.4 22.9 1.48 2699 95.1 55000 10939 0.848 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Alliant Reloder-10x *C 96.0 21.0 1.36 2695 99.9 55000 10257 0.858 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! IMR 8208 XBR 100.4 23.3 1.51 2689 95.0 55000 10809 0.849 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Accurate 2460 96.3 24.0 1.55 2687 96.1 55000 10804 0.866 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Alliant Reloder-12 98.1 23.2 1.50 2682 98.5 55000 10404 0.848 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Shooters World Match Rifle 102.0 24.3 1.58 2682 96.3 51881 11097 0.879 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 2015 98.9 21.9 1.42 2680 99.7 55000 10178 0.864 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Norma 200 *C 92.2 20.9 1.35 2678 100.0 55000 10036 0.873 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Norma 202 *C 102.0 23.2 1.51 2676 97.3 52739 10816 0.868 ! Near Maximum ! Shooters World AR Plus 94.7 23.5 1.52 2676 96.0 55000 10607 0.861 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! SNPE Vectan SP 9 102.0 24.4 1.58 2670 92.6 53097 10968 0.861 ! Near Maximum ! SNPE Vectan SP 7 101.1 25.1 1.63 2668 90.2 55000 10831 0.857 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Accurate 2230 95.6 24.0 1.55 2668 94.2 55000 10608 0.858 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! IMR 4198 94.9 19.7 1.28 2663 100.0 55000 9498 0.841 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Ramshot X-Terminator *C 97.1 24.0 1.55 2658 93.1 55000 10594 0.854 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Ramshot TAC *C 99.5 24.8 1.61 2658 89.4 55000 10755 0.853 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Accurate 2200 99.4 23.4 1.51 2655 90.9 55000 10576 0.849 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Hodgdon Benchmark 98.8 22.5 1.46 2652 95.8 55000 10315 0.853 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Shooters World Tactical Rifle 93.7 23.1 1.50 2650 94.5 55000 10304 0.852 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Shooters World Tactical Rifle 93.7 23.1 1.50 2650 94.5 55000 10304 0.852 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Winchester 296 70.7 17.6 1.14 2649 100.0 55000 9303 0.864 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Accurate 1680 82.7 20.0 1.29 2647 99.2 55000 9796 0.849 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Alliant Reloder-7 89.6 20.1 1.30 2645 100.0 55000 9579 0.860 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Vihtavuori N130 *C 98.4 21.3 1.38 2644 99.9 55000 9640 0.857 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Accurate 5744 78.8 17.5 1.13 2644 100.0 55000 9513 0.843 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Shooters World Buffalo Rifle 80.6 17.5 1.13 2644 100.0 55000 9513 0.843 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Norma 201 *C 102.0 23.1 1.50 2641 94.4 52149 10757 0.885 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 3031 102.0 22.1 1.43 2639 97.8 46832 10927 0.904 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4895 102.0 23.6 1.53 2637 91.5 49021 11202 0.895 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4198 91.3 19.9 1.29 2631 98.4 55000 9630 0.844 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Shooters World Blackout 75.8 18.3 1.19 2620 100.0 55000 9106 0.843 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Hodgdon CFE BLK *C 89.9 22.1 1.43 2619 95.2 55000 9958 0.856 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Vihtavuori N120 *C 92.8 19.6 1.27 2618 100.0 55000 8755 0.858 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Ramshot Big Game 102.0 25.2 1.63 2617 90.3 48309 11016 0.891 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4227 85.8 18.2 1.18 2617 100.0 55000 8817 0.847 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Hodgdon CFE223 *C 102.0 25.8 1.67 2616 88.4 48335 11136 0.890 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N125 *C 87.5 18.8 1.22 2614 100.0 55000 8742 0.859 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Vihtavuori N540 *C 102.0 23.9 1.55 2610 96.2 49042 10630 0.896 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4227 85.2 18.0 1.17 2605 100.0 55000 8766 0.846 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Alliant Reloder-15 *C 102.0 23.6 1.53 2602 90.2 47979 10920 0.905 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N133 *C 102.0 21.6 1.40 2593 99.1 51019 9607 0.879 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 203B *C 102.0 23.6 1.53 2589 90.7 46996 10883 0.913 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate No.11 FS 76.1 18.2 1.18 2585 100.0 55000 8472 0.855 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Hodgdon H110 72.1 17.9 1.16 2585 100.0 55000 8556 0.869 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Hodgdon Lil'Gun 70.7 17.0 1.10 2558 100.0 55000 8125 0.876 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Shooters World Precision 102.0 23.0 1.49 2558 92.7 46616 10460 0.926 IMR 4320 102.0 23.2 1.51 2545 89.6 46031 10312 0.909 Hodgdon H380 102.0 24.1 1.56 2536 87.0 45720 10517 0.929 SNPE Vectan SP 11 102.0 24.4 1.58 2526 88.3 43363 10654 0.937 Accurate 4064 102.0 23.1 1.50 2525 95.0 42518 10752 0.986 Norma 203 old 102.0 23.9 1.55 2523 90.5 42952 10694 0.958 Alliant 2400 68.1 15.0 0.97 2521 100.0 55000 7675 0.859 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Accurate 4100 69.6 16.6 1.08 2519 100.0 55000 7675 0.863 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Hodgdon VARGET *T 102.0 22.9 1.48 2519 89.0 45735 10102 0.919 Vihtavuori N110 *C 81.2 15.9 1.03 2513 100.0 55000 7596 0.868 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Ramshot Enforcer 66.7 15.8 1.02 2500 100.0 55000 7504 0.868 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! IMR 4064 102.0 22.3 1.45 2493 88.9 44491 9944 0.935
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H4895 is also the winner with a 77SMK:
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Cartridge : .223 Rem. (SAAMI) Bullet : .224, 77, Sierra HPBT MatchK 9377G G7 Useable Case Capaci: 24.054 grain H2O = 1.562 cm³ Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.260 inch = 57.40 mm Barrel Length : 16.0 inch = 406.4 mm Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders. Matching Maximum Pressure: 55000 psi, or 379 MPa or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 102 % These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window. C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations. USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON ! 19 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 60%. These powders have been skipped. Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time % Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms --------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Alliant AR-Comp *C *T 100.6 21.6 1.40 2606 100.0 55000 10018 0.883 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Winchester 748 97.0 23.1 1.50 2605 97.1 55000 11023 0.882 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Hodgdon BL-C2 99.6 24.1 1.56 2597 95.9 55000 11196 0.889 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Accurate 2495 102.0 22.1 1.43 2594 99.8 54613 10743 0.922 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Accurate 2520 100.0 23.4 1.52 2589 97.8 55000 10860 0.898 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Shooters World Match Rifle 102.0 23.3 1.51 2579 97.7 54335 10829 0.903 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Hodgdon H4895 101.0 22.4 1.45 2578 95.2 55000 10959 0.893 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Ramshot Wild Boar 99.3 23.5 1.52 2572 94.3 55000 10901 0.887 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Hodgdon H322 97.4 21.0 1.36 2571 99.2 55000 10310 0.885 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Hodgdon H335 91.9 22.2 1.44 2569 98.4 55000 10519 0.889 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Norma 202 *C 102.0 22.2 1.44 2568 98.5 54969 10532 0.895 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! SNPE Vectan SP 10 91.4 21.7 1.40 2565 98.4 55000 10479 0.893 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! SNPE Vectan SP 9 101.9 23.3 1.51 2563 94.4 55000 10780 0.889 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Vihtavuori N530 *C 97.2 21.7 1.40 2558 96.2 55000 10577 0.891 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! IMR 8208 XBR 99.2 22.0 1.43 2549 96.1 55000 10455 0.891 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Accurate 2460 95.1 22.7 1.47 2547 97.1 55000 10430 0.908 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Alliant Reloder-10x *C 94.7 19.8 1.28 2545 100.0 55000 9753 0.902 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Alliant Reloder-12 96.9 21.9 1.42 2539 99.1 55000 9998 0.891 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! IMR 4895 102.0 22.6 1.47 2539 93.5 51152 11043 0.920 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 201 *C 102.0 22.1 1.43 2538 96.0 54307 10541 0.911 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Shooters World AR Plus 93.6 22.2 1.44 2536 97.0 55000 10239 0.904 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! IMR 3031 102.0 21.1 1.37 2536 99.0 49038 10600 0.929 ! Near Maximum ! SNPE Vectan SP 7 99.9 23.8 1.54 2534 91.5 55000 10550 0.899 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Accurate 2015 97.5 20.7 1.34 2533 99.9 55000 9704 0.907 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Accurate 2230 94.4 22.7 1.47 2530 95.4 55000 10274 0.901 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Norma 200 *C 90.9 19.7 1.28 2528 100.0 55000 9523 0.917 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Ramshot TAC *C 98.4 23.5 1.52 2524 90.8 55000 10487 0.894 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Hodgdon CFE223 *C 102.0 24.7 1.60 2523 90.8 50253 11053 0.916 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot Big Game 102.0 24.1 1.56 2522 92.5 50259 10895 0.917 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot X-Terminator *C 95.9 22.7 1.47 2522 94.3 55000 10285 0.896 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Accurate 2200 98.3 22.1 1.43 2519 92.2 55000 10285 0.892 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Hodgdon Benchmark 97.7 21.3 1.38 2513 96.8 55000 9964 0.895 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Shooters World Tactical Rifle 92.6 21.9 1.42 2512 95.6 55000 9974 0.895 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Shooters World Tactical Rifle 92.6 21.9 1.42 2512 95.6 55000 9974 0.895 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! IMR 4198 93.6 18.6 1.21 2511 100.0 55000 9012 0.885 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Vihtavuori N540 *C 102.0 22.9 1.48 2507 97.6 51104 10406 0.923 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-15 *C 102.0 22.6 1.47 2505 92.3 50036 10783 0.931 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 1680 81.6 18.9 1.22 2500 99.6 55000 9360 0.893 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Vihtavuori N130 *C 97.1 20.1 1.30 2498 100.0 55000 9183 0.901 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Alliant Reloder-7 88.5 19.0 1.23 2496 100.0 55000 9095 0.905 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Norma 203B *C 102.0 22.6 1.47 2493 92.8 49043 10742 0.939 ! Near Maximum ! Winchester 296 69.7 16.6 1.08 2493 100.0 55000 8810 0.910 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Accurate 5744 77.8 16.5 1.07 2492 100.0 55000 9031 0.888 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Shooters World Buffalo Rifle 79.6 16.5 1.07 2492 100.0 55000 9031 0.888 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Hodgdon H4198 90.2 18.8 1.22 2487 99.0 55000 9223 0.888 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Hodgdon CFE BLK *C 88.9 20.9 1.36 2482 96.2 55000 9629 0.899 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Vihtavuori N133 *C 102.0 20.7 1.34 2481 99.7 53037 9270 0.908 ! Near Maximum ! Shooters World Blackout 74.8 17.3 1.12 2470 100.0 55000 8640 0.887 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Vihtavuori N120 *C 91.5 18.5 1.20 2465 100.0 55000 8310 0.904 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Hodgdon H4227 84.6 17.2 1.11 2464 100.0 55000 8363 0.892 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Shooters World Precision 102.0 22.0 1.43 2460 94.6 48622 10284 0.952 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N125 *C 86.3 17.8 1.15 2460 100.0 55000 8292 0.904 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! IMR 4227 84.1 17.1 1.11 2454 100.0 55000 8316 0.891 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! IMR 4320 102.0 22.2 1.44 2449 91.8 47803 10195 0.937 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H380 102.0 23.1 1.50 2445 89.3 47730 10432 0.955 ! Near Maximum ! SNPE Vectan SP 11 102.0 23.4 1.51 2436 90.7 45117 10573 0.964 Accurate 4064 102.0 22.1 1.43 2435 96.8 44718 10524 1.009 Norma 203 old 102.0 22.9 1.48 2434 92.8 45058 10571 0.983 Accurate No.11 FS 75.1 17.2 1.11 2433 100.0 55000 8037 0.901 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Hodgdon H110 71.1 16.9 1.10 2432 100.0 55000 8122 0.915 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Hodgdon VARGET *T 102.0 21.9 1.42 2422 91.1 47530 9989 0.947 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon Lil'Gun 69.7 16.1 1.04 2401 100.0 55000 7700 0.923 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! IMR 4064 102.0 21.4 1.38 2398 91.1 46290 9823 0.964
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I'm not quite sure what you're looking at to call the 77 and 69 a winner. which column is the important one?
also, hi, it's been a while! |
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Look how high up H4895 is compared to IMR4064 in both of the powder chooser datasets.
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At 100 yards, a flat base bullet is going to be more accurate than a similar bullet that has a boat tail. It’s because a flat base leaves the barrel more consistently. Look at the bullets used by 100 yard benchrest winners. Once you get to 200-350 yards, things then start to change as the better long range flight characteristics of boat tails take over. Anything heavier than 69 grains is kinda wasted at ranges of 200 yards or less. I would consider 77 grain bullets if I don’t want to single load 80 grain bullets at 600 yards. Also keep in mind that a faster twist is not necessarily for a heavier bullet. It is for a longer bullet. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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On an unrelated note, I wonder about the logistics of even using IMR4064 in a .223 case. As in the physical process of getting those long sticks into the case through that narrow mouth. I like 4064 and use it for .308, but even with that wider case mouth it has a hard time dropping through without getting congested. I often have to flick it with my fingers to make sure everything's settled in. And the crunch!
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and yes, stability is technically related to length, but heavier bullets are longer, and weights are easier to discuss. |
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my jug of 4895 will be for the 223 it seems... |
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where do you get those charts? Last edited by blockfort; 06-23-2022 at 5:05 AM.. |
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I generated them in Quickload.
You choose a cartridge, a bullet and a barrel length and then run what I call a "powder chooser query" where you specify a burn rate range, a max pressure and a max case fill percentage and then the software tests your whole powder library in those parameters and returns the results that I posted above. The powders that can not fall within the parameters are rejected. I only copied the top part of the results and cropped out everything below IMR4064 because you were asking about H4895 and IMR4064. A complete set of results will not fit into a single post due to the 15000 character limit. Here is the rest of the results for the 77gr SMK starting at IMR4064 and continuing down to the bottom: Code:
IMR 4064 102.0 21.4 1.38 2398 91.1 46290 9823 0.964 Alliant Reloder-17 *T 102.0 23.7 1.54 2387 88.5 41384 10858 0.998 IMR 4007 SSC 102.0 22.9 1.49 2371 84.2 46713 9735 0.969 Hodgdon H414 102.0 23.9 1.55 2370 82.7 42640 10288 0.990 Winchester 760 102.0 23.9 1.55 2370 82.7 42640 10288 0.990 Accurate 4100 68.6 15.7 1.02 2367 100.0 55000 7276 0.910 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Vihtavuori N140 *C 102.0 21.7 1.41 2366 93.7 44510 9541 0.981 Alliant 2400 67.1 14.1 0.92 2366 100.0 55000 7265 0.907 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Vihtavuori N110 *C 80.0 15.0 0.97 2358 100.0 55000 7195 0.917 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! IMR 4166 Enduron *C*T 102.0 21.7 1.40 2358 85.6 47050 9419 0.963 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot Enforcer 65.8 14.9 0.97 2346 100.0 55000 7110 0.917 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! IMR 4451 Enduron *C*T 102.0 22.3 1.45 2343 84.3 44883 9525 0.976 Vihtavuori N135 *C 102.0 20.5 1.33 2342 97.6 40862 9469 1.024 Accurate 2700 102.0 23.6 1.53 2337 84.0 47297 9172 0.968 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N550 *C 102.0 23.1 1.50 2317 85.4 38862 10163 1.038 Accurate No.9 60.4 14.2 0.92 2311 100.0 55000 6776 0.910 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Hodgdon LVR 102.0 22.6 1.47 2307 84.4 39360 9888 1.028 Accurate TCM 60.9 13.9 0.90 2295 100.0 55000 6634 0.911 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! SNPE Vectan BA6½ 88.8 16.2 1.05 2294 100.0 55000 6603 0.920 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Alliant BLUE DOT 72.4 13.1 0.85 2284 100.0 55000 6613 0.913 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Winchester 6,5 StaBall *T*C 102.0 24.3 1.58 2264 88.2 39648 9334 1.027 Shooters World Long Rifle 102.0 22.1 1.43 2263 84.5 39683 9339 1.048 Norma R123 60.9 13.5 0.87 2252 100.0 55000 6443 0.952 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Alliant Reloder-16 *C *T 102.0 22.0 1.43 2249 82.8 36444 9744 1.060 Norma URP *C 102.0 22.4 1.45 2233 83.2 35443 9632 1.078 Vihtavuori N150 *C 102.0 21.3 1.38 2231 90.5 36580 9138 1.074 Shooters World SW4350 102.0 22.4 1.45 2222 81.0 37256 9243 1.078 Alliant POWER PISTOL 61.2 10.8 0.70 2219 100.0 55000 6208 0.914 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Norma 204 *C 102.0 23.4 1.51 2216 75.9 37790 9111 1.051 Ramshot Hunter 102.0 23.4 1.51 2214 79.4 35635 9481 1.077 IMR 4350 102.0 22.5 1.46 2209 79.3 37519 8913 1.058 Vihtavuori 3N38 68.7 12.4 0.81 2207 100.0 55000 5901 0.922 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Accurate 4350 102.0 22.6 1.47 2205 82.4 33235 9687 1.113 Vihtavuori N105 *C 69.2 12.0 0.78 2187 100.0 55000 5763 0.938 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Hodgdon H4350 *T 102.0 22.1 1.43 2162 77.8 35440 8652 1.084 Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 102.0 21.9 1.42 2150 84.1 32755 8956 1.111 Alliant Reloder-19 *C 102.0 22.6 1.47 2089 71.8 31815 8517 1.130 IMR 4831 102.0 21.7 1.40 2087 79.7 29664 8791 1.161 Vihtavuori 3N37 63.9 10.9 0.71 2084 100.0 55000 5179 0.940 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Alliant HERCO 73.8 10.3 0.66 2077 100.0 55000 5223 0.952 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! SNPE Vectan BA7½ 71.5 11.6 0.75 2076 100.0 55000 5105 0.947 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Vihtavuori N350 66.4 10.7 0.69 2072 100.0 55000 5072 0.940 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Alliant BULLSEYE 60.8 8.9 0.58 2062 100.0 55000 5182 0.939 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Winchester Supreme 780 102.0 23.8 1.55 2058 71.1 32237 8128 1.126 Alliant UNIQUE 67.1 9.6 0.62 2050 100.0 55000 5053 0.952 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! IMR 4955 Enduron *C*T 102.0 22.0 1.43 2026 69.6 31105 7750 1.146 Hodgdon H4831 SC *T 102.0 22.9 1.48 2017 66.8 30792 7794 1.148 Accurate No.2 62.8 9.2 0.60 2011 100.0 55000 4680 0.960 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Norma MRP *C 102.0 23.6 1.53 2010 67.5 28151 8525 1.194 Vihtavuori N340 66.2 9.7 0.63 2004 100.0 55000 4671 0.952 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! IMR 7828 SSC 102.0 23.2 1.51 1998 63.3 29683 7874 1.171 Alliant Reloder-26 *C 102.0 24.3 1.58 1996 68.2 27421 8744 1.207 SNPE Vectan A0 71.2 10.1 0.66 1995 100.0 55000 4543 0.961 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Hodgdon Universal 65.1 9.3 0.60 1982 100.0 55000 4657 0.966 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Fiocchi F-Rex yellow 61.1 9.4 0.61 1980 100.0 55000 4526 0.959 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Vihtavuori N560 *C 102.0 23.1 1.50 1974 62.6 27723 7989 1.204 SNPE Vectan BA9½ 67.4 9.7 0.63 1973 100.0 55000 4556 0.960 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! NitroKemia REX 3/Green/36 81.4 9.9 0.64 1971 100.0 55000 4461 0.961 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Alliant Reloder-22 *C 102.0 22.9 1.48 1970 65.9 27142 8050 1.215 SNPE Vectan BA 9 66.9 10.3 0.67 1967 100.0 55000 4496 0.966 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! NitroKemia REX 2/Yellow/32 81.5 9.5 0.62 1967 100.0 55000 4442 0.958 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! SNPE Vectan A1 61.7 9.5 0.61 1964 100.0 55000 4472 0.959 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! NitroKemia REX 1/Red/28 82.6 9.8 0.63 1964 100.0 55000 4489 0.952 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Accurate Nitro 100 72.4 8.4 0.54 1958 100.0 55000 4570 0.972 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Shooters World Sparta 100 72.4 8.4 0.54 1958 100.0 55000 4570 0.972 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Vihtavuori N330 63.8 9.2 0.60 1955 100.0 55000 4429 0.965 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Accurate Solo 1250 70.3 9.3 0.60 1955 100.0 55000 4403 0.959 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! SNPE Vectan AS 64.9 9.2 0.60 1948 100.0 55000 4434 0.960 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Alliant Reloder-23 *C *T 102.0 22.1 1.43 1947 73.6 25389 8152 1.234 Alliant GREEN DOT 72.2 8.9 0.58 1945 100.0 55000 4462 0.976 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Fiocchi F-Rex red 60.1 9.0 0.59 1942 100.0 55000 4355 0.963 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Vihtavuori N160 *C 102.0 21.7 1.41 1931 67.1 27613 7185 1.203 Accurate Solo 1000 72.7 8.9 0.58 1930 100.0 55000 4361 0.975 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Alliant RED DOT 76.5 8.4 0.55 1928 100.0 55000 4396 0.966 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Hodgdon H4831 *T 102.0 22.0 1.42 1924 63.9 27278 7236 1.205 Accurate MAGPRO 102.0 24.0 1.56 1918 58.7 26361 7617 1.232 Vihtavuori N320 66.6 8.7 0.56 1913 100.0 55000 4202 0.970 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Winchester WXR 102.0 22.4 1.45 1908 63.7 25135 7624 1.257 Vihtavuori N165 *C 102.0 22.4 1.45 1897 67.2 25840 7224 1.233 Accurate 3100 102.0 22.6 1.47 1897 70.0 23920 7731 1.282 Norma R1 79.7 8.9 0.58 1884 100.0 55000 4133 0.976 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Ramshot Magnum 102.0 24.6 1.60 1873 60.9 26401 7159 1.236 Hodgdon Clays 78.4 8.3 0.54 1872 100.0 55000 4068 0.968 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! IMR 7828 102.0 22.0 1.42 1870 58.9 25058 6989 1.259 Vihtavuori N310 62.2 8.0 0.52 1863 100.0 55000 3959 0.975 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! IMR 7977 Enduron *C*T 102.0 22.4 1.45 1838 56.6 27122 6215 1.223 Alliant Reloder-25 *C 102.0 22.5 1.46 1828 61.0 23053 6978 1.307 Vihtavuori N32C Tin Star 94.7 10.5 0.68 1825 100.0 55000 3704 0.998 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! SNPE Vectan SP 12 102.0 24.1 1.56 1811 54.7 24407 6666 1.278 Vihtavuori N565 *C 102.0 23.2 1.51 1791 56.9 21800 6996 1.333 Norma MRP 2 *C 102.0 22.6 1.47 1723 53.1 20234 6358 1.377 Hodgdon H1000 *T 102.0 22.4 1.45 1716 51.7 21762 5728 1.346 Vihtavuori N570 *C 102.0 23.8 1.55 1658 42.9 19835 5638 1.394 Shooters World BMG 102.0 24.3 1.58 1644 45.4 20948 5271 1.375 Hodgdon Retumbo 102.0 22.7 1.47 1632 48.3 18853 5428 1.429 Vihtavuori N170 *C 102.0 22.4 1.45 1629 49.1 18750 5558 1.430 Vihtavuori 24N41 *C 102.0 24.1 1.56 1610 40.5 20053 4924 1.400 Alliant Reloder-33 *C 102.0 24.5 1.59 1587 40.4 18479 5149 1.442 Accurate LRT 102.0 24.0 1.56 1586 38.0 19187 4801 1.425 IMR TrailBoss 102.0 7.6 0.49 1540 100.0 33027 2814 1.242 IMR 8133 Enduron *C*T 102.0 22.1 1.43 1540 43.6 16310 4983 1.512 Norma 217 *C 102.0 22.3 1.44 1523 43.2 15867 4919 1.528 Hodgdon H870 102.0 23.4 1.51 1513 39.4 16339 4706 1.517 Hodgdon 50BMG 102.0 23.0 1.49 1495 35.3 16626 4360 1.509 Hodgdon US 869 102.0 24.1 1.56 1474 36.1 16333 4250 1.528 SNPE Vectan SP 13 102.0 23.1 1.50 1431 37.6 14783 4143 1.587 Alliant Reloder-50 *C 102.0 24.5 1.59 1409 33.4 14215 4207 1.607 Accurate 8700 102.0 23.6 1.53 1395 34.5 14826 3764 1.595 Vihtavuori 20N29 *C 102.0 24.3 1.58 1354 31.8 13844 3641 1.640
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I use 68 gr hornady, 24.5 gr 4895 pull down, Wolf Brass, Wolf primer. My match rifle has a Kreiger 1:8 barrel. Those are bottom feeder components, yet is holds the 10-ring and then some in the 300M slow fire prone. Off the bench they shoot around 3/4". I do use Adam McDonalds auto trickler and weigh the powder to +/-0.02 grains.
If I had no Varget I'd try the 4894 first. There is no need for heavy bullets at 300. |
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I like using Hornady 75 grain BTHP bullets. They are usually under $0.24 a pop, sometimes even cheaper. SMK's are sort of what most folks go for when replicating MK262 Mod 1 ammo. Barnes has a 75 or 77 grain as well. Same with Nosler.
All comes down to price really (for me). Buy 100 of each you like, see how they work, and then determine which is the best for your rifle. For reference I'm using a SIG 516 Patrol 1:7 twist 16" rifle. Nosler's didn't work that well for me, and I haven't tried Sierra or Barnes because Hornady's 75 grain is cheaper and gets me what I want. Otherwise the "Match" style 52-69 grain projectiles would do well for under 300 yards. The 53 grain Sierra isn't bad. Same as the 69's. RMR reloading has 69 grain projectiles for $0.15 or so each. https://www.rmrbullets.com/shop/bull...r-bullets-new/ I personally haven't used them, but being nearly 1/2 the price of Sierra's offering it'll do you just fine for under 300 yard shooting based on reviews. |
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Reading that I may have to buy some for myself in the future based on their guarantee. |
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