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Passed in AZ Sent to Governor for Sig !!
Number: AZ [R] HB 2111 - Updated (Status 04/01/2021)
Sponsor: Leo Biasiucci Title: 2nd amendment; unenforceable federal laws Status: Transmit to Governor - 03/31/2021 Position: Support Summary: Proposes that any act, law, treaty, rule or regulation of the U.S. Government that violates the Second Amendment would be unenforceable in Arizona. Additionally, state and local government resources could not be used to enforce any act, law, treaty, rule or regulation of the U.S. Government that violates the Second Amendment. |
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For those that are interested, you can see all current bills for AZ here:
https://azcdl.org/bill-tracking/ . . .
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I like how it sounds and respect the "spirit" that I believe it reflects.
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Who/how determines what violates the 2A? That is traditionally the purview of SCOTUS and if THEY determine it goes against the 2A it is not enforced. Haven't read the meat, but is there anything that clarifies that the Supreme Court of Arizona will determine whether or not something goes against the 2A? |
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This Arizona bill IS slightly better: "PURSUANT TO THE SOVEREIGN AUTHORITY OF THIS STATE AND ARTICLE II, SECTION 3, CONSTITUTION OF ARIZONA," but doesn't not specify the judicial body responsible so likely devolves to Arizona Supreme Court. 1960 Voters approved the Modern Courts Amendment, which amended Article VI and: Gave the Supreme Court administrative supervision over all the courts of the state. Gave the Supreme Court authority to make rules governing all procedural matters in any court. 1974 Voters approved merit selection and retention election of justices for the Supreme Court and judges for the Court of Appeals. https://www.azcourts.gov/guidetoazco...e-Court-System Technically speaking this is about as good as you can ask for. A plebiscite or vote to ratify judge's rulings or appealing that immediately or allowing recall elections or making the pain felt immediately for voting wrong would be better, but this is about the best case scenario we can expect these days.
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You're presupposing the outcome where Az wins the fight that comes after talk and posturing. It moves from talk and posturing to real when the fight starts, not when it ends.
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Also, what's with the tough talk and posturing now? I'm just a bit skeptical regarding all of these Republican politicians who did nothing to contest a clearly fraudulent 2020 general election. |
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But it does send a clear message.
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I applaud AZ and am glad they did this.
That said, it sounds a lot like sanctuary states and how they treat illegals. When we as a country get so polarized that we make laws like this it won't be long before CW2 goes down. Not saying it doesn't need to or that I'm hoping that it will. Just saying its looking inevitable. |
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Signed into law!
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Was report by KPNX TV (NBC) 12 News reporter Brahm Resnik. It was signed with other unrelated bills on his desk late today. Press releases are starting to come out on the bills. Will post HB2111 when it's put on az.gov
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Thanks!
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AZcdl updated their Bill Tracking page:
Number: AZ [R] HB 2111 - Updated (Ancillary 04/02/2021) Sponsor: Leo Biasiucci Title: 2nd amendment; unenforceable federal laws Status: Transmit to Governor - 03/31/2021 Position: Support Summary: Pursuant to the sovereign authority of Arizona and Article 2, Section 3 of the Arizona Constitution, the state and all political subdivisions (i.e., agencies counties, cities, etc.) are prohibited from using any personnel or financial resources to enforce, administer or cooperate with any act, law, treaty, order, rule or regulation of the United States government this is inconsistent with any Arizona law regarding the regulation of firearms. Comments: SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR - APRIL 6, 2021 |
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Out of curiosity, do you see "pot legalization" in the same light, where the feds will execute all sorts of raids and no-knock warrants in every state that "legalized" pot? Or where there are "sanctuary cities" for illegal immigration and local politicians warn the communities when the feds are coming?
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I would think that pro 2A folks living in an anti 2A state would support actions taken by free states. At least we are doing something to defend our Rights instead of criticizing others for what we aren't willing to do ourselves in our own states. It should be encouragement that Bill of Rights and 10A are alive and well still elsewhere in the country. We didn't get there with sour grapes behind a keyboard. We support our 2A fighter org, AZcdl, who are honey badgers. You have fighters in CA too. Get behind them and FIGHT.
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Ducey is a RINO POS. There is a recall movement against him and he knows he is toast after the election fraud he signed.
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HB 2111 was written using the same language Brown used in CA for illegal immigration sanctuary- which was apparently held up in court...
The author of the bill was on JT Harris' radio show yesterday... He literally used the same sanctuary bill for CA and replaced illegal immigration with 2A Brilliant.
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Good for Arizona, following Wyoming’ lead. |
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The language was taken directly from illegal immigration sanctuary policy in CA... which was upheld in court - so AZ replaced illegal immigration with second amendment. Brilliant.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...n-cycle-video/ |
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I know people think its transplants, and that is true to an extent... but its more about new generational demographics... there is a wave of Hispanics coming of age to vote whom 85 + % of them vote Dem/Lib its really funny, well sad in a way because most of them are turning this country slowly into the very thing their families spent blood-sweat-tears leaving from...
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