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New Savage Impulse Straight-Pull Rifle
I was reading online and an article about this popped up...
I love my K31, and since I'm short a few grand of a Blaser R8, Heym SR30, or Merkel Helix, I was intrigued. Then it was mentioned that it has a bolt handle that can be reversed for us lefties. Now I definitely want one. I want one with iron sights and walnut in 6.5 swede; in the meantime, I think I want the Hog Hunter, in any one of the offered calibers. https://www.savagearms.com/content?p...rms&a=ImpulseS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4p4Aj-pbLY So who's gonna be the first to buy one for a CG review? Last edited by RayPDA; 01-05-2021 at 8:17 PM.. |
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You are! of course! These could be really really neat rifles if they didn't weigh so much. If I had to, I'd get the hog hunter, but then again, would the 8.8-pound! 6.5 Creed/Big Game (is that an oxymoron? Just kidding) might make a neat BENCH REST rifle. I do certainly like that Hog Hunter, though. Just wish it were closer to 7 lbs..
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I said I was done buying firearms but this could change my mind. I'd rather have it in 6.5 but since I have several thousand .308 rounds I might have to consider that chambering.
A left handed straight pull! It's enough to make me sell my scoped K31 with the St. Marie LHA for this rifle. |
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Pretty cool action! Lots of mechanicals happening there.
Like Mr. Bergmen, I prefer a wood stock. .308, or better 6.5 CM for me. -P
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Cool, but not $1399 cool...
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Very interesting, it's another option for us lefties.
The 300 Win Mag has a 22" barrel and the same 8.8 Lbs. listed weight, which would make it a comfortable shooting gun. The initial price of $1,400 is a little high but in a year they'll probably be going for $1,000 or so.
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Between the price and weight, no thanks.
If they could make one around 6.5 pounds at an under $1,000 price, I'd be all over it.
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That’s really heave base weight fit most hunters. However, it really depends were the weight actually is. I’d love to learn the action weight, everything else can be replaced. $1,400 do an action *if it has everything you want for precision and ergonomics is not out of line. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
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The more I look at this the more concerns that I have.
It has two flange halves at the bottom of the aluminum receiver that the four bolts clamp the steel barrel into. Is headspace set by screwing the barrel into the extension and then the barrel insertion depth in the receiver set with the barrel nut? Can I crack the receiver clamp extensions by over torqueing the barrel clamp bolts? Do I trust that the four receiver clamp bolts will prevent any movement of the barrel extension in the receiver?
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Astute observations -
I started reading around - found this: https://www.gunsweek.com/sites/defau...mpulse_FAQ.pdf The FAQ in the link states that barrels can be swapped in the field: "By removing the takedown/action screws and barrel clamp screws (loosen 3, remove 1), a new barrel and extension can be assembled. The floating bolt head can be removed toollessly and swapped when a new barrel and extension assembly is installed. A torque wrench would be needed to reinstall the takedown screws." In regards to a 'repeatable zero, they say, "Yes. The 4 lug barrel clamp system provides for a repeatable zero because the barrel extension is timed via the receiver and barrel locking lug (via the front lug)." I found it kind of funny that they mention the use of aluminum as a desirable weight reduction but still end up with a 8.plus pound base weight. Quote:
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It would be a lot heavier if it wasn't aluminum. I know that's obvious but a lot of people seemed to have missed that point.
It's heavy because there's probably a LOT of steel in the bolt to make straight-pull thing work. |
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For those interested, Heym and Anschutz versions of the radial lock up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMw_RLGi_hM |
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It's an interesting gun, but my guess is that it will be a commercial failure. It's the answer to the question no one asked. |
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I agree it'll be a commercial failure, simply because of the weight and price.
Regarding carrying heavy guns while hunting, it makes a huge difference. I've been on plenty of 10 to 15 mile days chasing game or forced marches. Sometimes with an 8 pound shotgun running up and down mountains or foothills chasing quail or chukar. Sometimes lugging a 9 pound Garand and heavy pack way back in the service. Sometimes long stalks in the mountains for sheep or elk. Fortunately those were with a 6 to 6.5 pound rifle before optic. Those were tough enough hunts and hikes without having a 10+ pound rifle. That would truly be painful. Ounces equal pounds and pounds equal pain. There's a reason the military and hunters are always looking for ways to lighten their load. High speed low drag is the goal for both.
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Meh, I want one. I'd be interested in the 300 WSM, though I think a 338 WM would be better.
As for the weight, it'll be 10ish pounds with a scope. Heavier than I prefer but it's not like I don't own lighter options.
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Read the article on the Savage Impulse that intrigued me. Thinking about the three AR's I built as custom straight-pull bolt actions, and how accurate they are, that urge to pickup one, maybe the Predator model in .22-250 Remington, fluttered around my brain, until I read that the barrel twist is 1:12", too slow for the 50 grain Varmint Grenade. The other selections don't fit any of my needs, and my safes are all full. Then, I realized with disappointment that I finally reached the age where the next great things that come along, talk themselves out any appeal; drat, just when I can now afford those shiny new things, I lost interest. Well, better to save up the cash for cataract surgery, so I can actually see through scopes again.
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I know what you're saying John. I was looking for a gun to buy last week and besides no one having anything in stock, there was just nothing that I was interested in.
I've got the full safe with some guns in it that I've never shot. They're not collector's items either, just ordinary guns.
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No left hand offerings yet. When/if Savage offers LH, I'll be interested.
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It's a straight pull action. You can swap the bolt handle from righty to lefty in 15 seconds or less. Or were you looking for a lefty specific ejection?
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Let's see if we can continue this without LynnJr's sidetracks and trolling...
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It does seem like it'd be a nice gun, and I don't mind the weight. It's the price that gets me. Let's all remember, we can get a Savage 10/110 Trophy Hunter XP, with synthetic stock and a decent scope mounted (used to be Nikon ProStaff) for a street price of $549. And Savage 10/110's are good rifles!
Let's also remember that on the used market, Savage 10/110's go for the mid $350's or thereabouts. Sure, these are usually the pre-AccuTrigger versions, but the older Savage triggers are still pretty decent for general-purpose hunting tasks. That, therefore, is the one major concern that I have with this new Impulse straight-pull rifle. It's kind of overpriced for a general-purpose bolt rifle, even one with bottom metal.
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Ten pounds with a scope....didn't our grandfathers and fathers and uncles carry loaded Garand and Johnson rifles during WWII ? Day after day, year after year. Just passing that along. Otherwise I don't care for Savage rifles at all.
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what evidence do I have of this. I submit the model 1894 lever rifle. All the surplus rifles that were sporterized, which included weight reductions by changes to the stock and removing excess metal. what is too heavy or too light is subjective to a point. it depends on your physical stature, physical fitness, the application of the rifle and so on. If you are a hunter that enjoys the thrill of the stalk. it's about how close you can get, you will likely not be interested in rifles on the heavy end. if you like to ride in on ATV or horses and have pack horses, then you are not likely to care about weight. if you walk / ride a relatively short distance to a tree stand, or other fixed position, again not likely to care about weight. but, no matter what, a rifle designed to hunt with, 10 pounds all up...that is heavy. but is it too heavy for "you" and your application? Only "you" can make that determination. |
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I didn't think of competition. If these rifles turn out to be very accurate and precise, I could see competitors using these for the benefits of speed and not losing eyes on the target.
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Read the description, didn't watch the video, went to Savage's website where there wasn't any mention of left hand. Don't mind being wrong, now I'm more interested.
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For mr Sharps, I hunted with my Garand for 10 yrs on the ridges in the Mokelumne River system in Calaveras county from 1984 thru 95 and climbed the canyon walls carrying the Garand again and again. Sure the G.I.'s rode in dueuce and a halfs, on tanks etc. Ever see the programs on the Military Channels showings LONG lines of troops carrying M1's walking across various places in Europe ? I have many times, perhaps you haven't. How many miles did you hike with a M14 over your shoulder in the mid 60's at places like Ft Ord and other bases in the USA ? Before the plastic rifles were issued in '66 ? Just making a few comments here.
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Garand Hunter
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You may choose to run around the bush with your M1. cool, good for you. but not everyone is you, or hunts like you. some people prefer the lighter weight, and hunt in places and in ways that make lighter better for them. what is light, what is heavy as I have already said is a bit subjective. there are plus and minus to each direction. valid reasons for going one way or the other. But pointing to soldiers that didn't get to choose and when they could, often choose lighter isn't really a valid or constructive counter argument to someone expressing a preference for lighter. |
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Savage 110s still don't extract or eject reliably and they have been making those since the 60s. I can't imagine that this overly complex, gimmicky design will fare any better. Any speed gained from the straight pull, will be negated by the time it takes to reach into the action and manually retrieve the cases that don't eject. Savage should stick to what they do best - accurate budget rifles for thrifty consumers.
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Let's see how this straight-pull design fares in actual practice. I'm willing to give Savage a shot here (no pun intended), but it is pretty darn expensive, though. I'd buy a 110 before I'd shell out that much coin for this new action.
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