Nope, seems like my discipline is more similar to your discipline. I am not poo-pooing ****. There are some matches in both NorCal and SoCal that start at distances further than 2,000 yards. They are casual and the convenient thing is that you don't have to do the hiking and target set up all on your own. You should meet up with these groups.

According to many poster here I am bad mouthing the RPR and yet I bought one.

What people are missing is seasoned shooters know what they can expect from a rifle.

Ruger has been around for a long time and had they developed some Super Duper crazy accurate rifle that was so outstanding don't you think all the engineers and shooters at Ruger would know that?

The hype gets started on forums like this one and not from the manufacturer because they know better. Its what they do.

You are buying a bolt action AR clone that looks appealing shoots 3/4 moa according to the manufacturer and sells for $1000.

I have a vast collection of bolt action rifles many of which are customs and i dont expect the Ruger to shoot as good as i trust the folks at Ruger who sell the gun and there testing.

You tube is a vast wealth of knowledge and a huge source of bad intelligence in one location. You won't find anyone at Ruger suggesting you place the barrel proper on a rest but you will see it all over YouTube. Many shooters/posters simply don't understand the mechanics.

I see you are located in San Francisco CA. I am 50 miles north of you and have a gun I would like you to shoot. If your able to go to Circle S range this Thursday let me know and I will bring it. Saturday is deer season and due to some neck surgery I won't be able to shoot my own rifles.
You shoot my rifle and ammo free of charge then post here your honest opinion.

been much longer than ten days, almost 20 pages of barrel swaps, where are all the new gun post from calgunners????

:useless:

That's quite the offer!

Also, I hope you heal up well, and quickly!

There are very few in California that have them in hand.Within two or three weeks many more people will actually have them.

Most calgunners don't shoot very much.
I see people's guns every day in my daily business and it's a RARE one to actually show much wear from use.
Most (<98%) look to be safe queens.

My safe is full of queens. The gun in my safe that has seen the most amount of use is a Glock 19 gen2 police "trade-in".

I will soon have a 6.5Creedmoor Ruger RPR join the harem of queens in the safe.

Damnit. I bought the last gun of the year. Hopefully it is still at the price range in January.

98%, you sound like Obama.

http://secure.assets.bostatic.com/re...1121004716.jpg

Most gun owners have safe queens. That's because either:
1. They do not shoot, or
2. They shoot, but have too many guns.

Very few people can efficiently make purchases where they get maximal use from their rifles.

I think I fall into that 2% that shoots my guns, I'm at Iron Sights or Poway W&G at least once a week

Only one that has been stuck in the safe for a while has been the tack driver 22lr bolt action, savage mark2 BV....dang ammo is getting better to find but the match grade stuff is still nuts.

Got to appreciate a man who puts his money where his mouth is. Props on you Lynn.

Thanks for offering, I work on weekdays and can't get away. Maybe sometime on the weekend? My RPR is in jail right now so not too much longer.

Also at Los Altos, Chabot, Coyote Point pretty often, we should hook up sometime.

Somebody from Reddit posted pics.

http://imgur.com/a/kRqY0
http://imgur.com/a/fuG5S

To anyone that has the 6.5 Creedmoor rifle.
Will a 36"cleaning rod work or do I need the 40"?

If you get a rod that is longer than the OAL when folded, it is sure to work. Hence, a 36" will work, but I recommend for folks to get cleaning rods that are as long as possible as it'll save from replacement down the road if you end up with a longer barrel.

44" dewey rod...nuff said ;)

Well, this RPR really seems to be moving the market. Seems like Norma finally prioritized a big batch of 6.5 Creedmoor to get out for the RPR.

I ordered a case of 6.5 CD Norma brass when I found out they started making it last year. Personally, I didn't even believe it actually existed since as I have never seen a piece in my life. Today, I got my case of Norma. There's some Norma out there, but you gotta act quickly since it is selling like mad. Obviously, I haven't tried it, even so, given Norma's products, I am pretty confident that these cases will be the best out there that's factory 6.5CD.

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...pssomdgicb.jpg

this thing looks amazing, if i can ever sell my ar15 i am going to get one

how much is the norma ammo? is it good for plinking?

It's just brass.

My troll radar is lighting up big time. :troll:

Let us know how the brass works for you.If you could compare Norma to Hornady that would be great.
Hopefully Lapua comes to the party.Maybe Nosler will ramp up production.It would be nice to have different options.

Not sure if they make ammo but at 1.50 per case to reload should make great plinking ammo.
Do they let you reload in prison Leland?
Beats making license plates!

Yes, he's been doing rounds.

To be honest, it'll probably be a while before I get to the Norma as my Nosler brass has quite a bit of life. For Nosler, I am pretty happy with the stuff I got. In the first month Nosler came out, it was easy to get. None of it's terrible, it isn't like range pick up 308 brass. I went ahead and pre-ordered the Norma as I figure it's probably a slight improvement from the Nosler, and I doubt Lapua will make it as they make 260 rem and have their own 6.5 Lapua cartridge. It's best to just pick up a single lot of what you can get and go from there.

JMP,
I have a case of Hornady 140 amax to get me started once I shoot some.Your probably right about Lapua but I will continue to hope .

Can I can ask you another question?
I have measured some of the necks on the 140 gr Amax.They come out to .290.From my research it seems like .002 is a good neck tension.I was looking at the .288 bushings then I saw a video from Redding suggesting .001 tension.
Do you have any reccomendations on bushings or do I ger both and see what works?
I'm looking at Redding neck sizer bushings

You should absolute use the gold sizing bushings from Redding. Neck tension is a personal preference. In the same gauge of brass, I'll want more tension as the area of the caliber goes up. Anywhere from 0.001-0.004" may be appropriate. Most folks will use a 289 or 290. I haven't measured my Norma or Hornady brass, but it should be in the same ballpark. I think you are safe with a 289 bushing, but you may find yourself wanting to go up or down a little. The 139-142gr bullets are very long and skinny and they seat deeper than most bullets, thus the effective neck tension is the amount of friction that the bullets need to overcome to be released from the case.

Generally, if you are seating bullets far out and have less grab, you'll want more tension. On standard gauge brass like a 6.5CD, I'll use 0.001 to 0.004" depending on the size and how I am seating the particular bullet. This is one major advantage of the Redding bushings. Absolutely pay the extra $10 to get the gold ones as these are impossible to jam and need no lubrication.

1lb bottles of H4350 is in stock at midway right now if anyone wants it. $29.99. Not the best price, but if you need it


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Okay, here is a bit more specific information that I observed from the three types of brass. I took samplings of 10 from the same lots (new, unturned).

Hornady:
Weight: 148.0gr - 153.1gr
Neck Thickness: 0.013" - 0.014"

Norma:
Weight: 160.7gr - 161.4gr
Neck Thickness: 0.0145"

Nosler:
Weight: 157.2gr - 158.5gr
Neck Thickness: 0.014"

Even though that isn't a comprehensive test as it does not look at volume, which is even more important, it demonstrates about what I would anticipate and that's why the Norma and Nosler come at a premium. If you do not turn necks, then the Norma or Nosler is the way to go.

In real terms, what does that mean? Probably very little for the average shooter, but for some, it could put Hornady outside of acceptable levels without sorting and turning.

This is why the factory Nosler ammo is sold out at obscene prices. The ammo itself is a catastrophe (at least in my rifle), but the brass is very good. Folks have bought out the Nosler factory ammo to get the brass once the brass was sold out.

That's very interesting.
Thanks for doing that!

JMP
Why do you think the Nosler brass is superior?
In looking over your posted data I would pick the Norma and neck turn it to 0.012 thickness.

I'd say it is superior relative to the Hornady. There is no factory ammo that I am aware of that is made in Norma cases. I just got my Norma brass, and it is the newest. I would certainly expect it to be the best of the three, but I cannot make any comments until I actually use it. That's why I put in an order for a case a year ago, sight unseen.

too bad no 300 win mag :(

still waiting to see what the reviews are on accuracy. as others stated ruger and precision in the same phrase is hard pill to swallow in general. but if i'd get one it would be 308 b/c i reload it and shoot it in both semi & bolt. good luck calguners, im gonna pass on this one. looks like a wannabe barrett 98b with plastics abound

Where's the plastic besides the cheekpad, and pistol grip?

6.5 Creedmoor matches the external ballistics of 300 win mag with far less recoil, muzzle blast, powder and throat erosion.

It does actually look like a 98b. Might be a bad thing, or a good thing if you look at it that way. Barret obviously made those ergos for a reason. Ironically enough about the plastic comment, the Barret has more "plastic" which is referred to as "polymer" when not spoken negatively. It's all about the way you look at it until real empirical testing is done. Glass is half full or half empty.

Indeed it does look like the Barrett; however, I doubt that was the goal. I think they were just trying to get the looks as close to an AR-15 as possible, which the Barrett has that appearance also. I'd say that Ruger was 100% successful in its endeavor. Personally, I'd skip the Barrett as I have no idea why folks lust over those other than the price tag.

Looks like there is a run on HORNADY 6.5 CREEDMOOR 140 GR A-MAX rounds. Everyone seems to be out of stock. I wonder if that was caused by this rifle?

This is going to be the best thing for the 6.5 Creedmoor since it was developed!

That's what I said about 15 pages ago, and I was called negative and a big time party pooper when I said to secure ammo/components NOW. H4350 and Creedmoor brass will become unavailable at times, especially if it gets more and more popular. The 6.5 Creedmoor is becoming, if not already, a fanboy cartridge.
How will this help the 6.5 Creedmoor, it's just a cartridge. It's really really close to the 260 Rem it just has a lowered shoulder that is sharper (30 degrees I think?), it's kind of like a half-Ackley. For folks that do not have a 6.5 short, perhaps a 260 Ackley would be more interesting? It has more potential to reach higher velocities if you can keep it accurate. If not, I am sure it can be down-loaded to get performance the same as the Creedmoor.

Barrel life of a 6.5CM will be a LOT more than a .260AI but I agree that it's a more capable caliber.