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Gun Kraft 06-02-2015 10:12 AM

Multi-state UT/AZ/FL/VA/OR CCW class $75 in San Leandro, June 23rd
 
The class is 4 hours and meets the training requirements for concealed carry permits in Oregon, Utah, Arizona, Florida, and Virginia.

Instruction is classroom only and includes assistance filling out the application forms. Fingerprinting services are available as well. If you are interested please send me a PM or register for the class at www.gunkraft.com/calendar.htm

Feedback from previous students:
"Excellent instruction. Expert knowledge."
"Great presentation, very informative."
"Could easily have kept going, is there a longer course offered?"
"Awesome instructor, very knowledgable, engaging lecture."


About the instructor:
Robin is an active law enforcement officer with ten years of experience. He is POST certified as a pistol and rifle instructor and serves as a rangemaster for his department. In addition to teaching Robin is an active student and continues to take classes including SureFire's low light instructor's course, TacMed's law enforcement tactical lifesaver, Tactical awareness and threat recognition, and SSI's LE response to active shooter and terrorist events.

To help you decide which permit(s) you may want to apply for, visit each state's reciprocity page to see which states honor each permit.
Utah reciprocity: https://bci.utah.gov/concealed-firea...-other-states/
Arizona reciprocity: http://www.azdps.gov/Services/Concea...s/Reciprocity/ (Click on "Reciprocity and Recognition Agreements" menu button)
Florida reciprocity: https://www.freshfromflorida.com/Div...se-Reciprocity
Virginia reciprocity: http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms_Reciprocity.shtm
Oregon reciprocity: http://or-chl.com/reciprocity.php

flhxxx 07-22-2015 12:08 AM

I'm in

aerodan 09-15-2015 7:57 PM

Hi GC,

Does this include the fingerprinting and other details? Thanks and best.

Gun Kraft 09-15-2015 8:33 PM

Hi aerodan. We offer fingerprinting and help filling out the applications.

NorCalGlock9 11-15-2015 3:01 PM

Great class and very informative! Very helpful in getting info/applications/fingerprints for multiple states. I highly recommend this class.

Thanks!!!

Gun Kraft 11-20-2015 7:18 AM

Thanks for the recommendation, NorCalGlock9! We always appreciate the feedback. :)

QuickOnTheDraw 01-05-2016 10:01 PM

What city is the class located in?
Thank you...

Gun Kraft 02-22-2016 9:06 PM

The class is taught at the San Leandro range.

baggss 02-23-2016 3:52 PM

I think I may be in. I'll sign up via the link.

Dano3467 02-23-2016 3:58 PM

Since this covers AZ, is it also to be said NV (covered) through reciprocity ?

And if UT is covered, will Washington state also through reciprocity ?

Just curious. Idk

Gun Kraft 02-26-2016 7:49 AM

Both reciprocity (formal agreements) and recognition (informal acceptance) change over time. It's always best to reference the issuing state's website to get the latest up-to-date info. Currently AZ's permit is recognized by NV (http://www.azdps.gov/services/concea...s/reciprocity/) and UT's has reciprocity with WA (http://bci.utah.gov/concealed-firear...-other-states/).

rambruuh 03-16-2016 10:09 PM

I'm in see you all Sunday

Oxfordbp 09-03-2016 6:51 PM

When is the next class?

sa810 11-19-2016 9:43 PM

Hey Robin... Thanks for the class today.

Good stuff.

Gun Kraft 11-21-2016 1:03 PM

Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed the class. :)

Gun Kraft 12-20-2016 11:58 AM

This class satisfies the training requirement. You still need to pass the background check, but as long as you have a clean record that shouldn't be a problem.

The next class is scheduled for Jan 15th, but is sold out. I normally schedule one class per month, future classes TBD.

VL221 12-23-2016 9:15 PM

Do you offer classes for CA CCW?

Gun Kraft 12-25-2016 5:13 PM

Sorry but no. Here in the SF bay area it's very rare to receive one so it isn't economically feasible for me to offer such a class, even though I can certainly teach one.

Gun Kraft 02-05-2017 10:21 AM

The Sunday, February 26th class is almost full. I was able to open a new class on Saturday, February 25th. You can see a list of upcoming training dates at www.gunkraft.com/calendar.htm

Sputnik 02-07-2017 5:35 PM

Well, it looks like Feb is full so I'm on your list for March.
Here's to National Reciprocity :D

Atekhed 02-07-2017 10:39 PM

Their Feb 25th class still has 5 slots according to their calendar.

Sputnik 02-08-2017 6:52 PM

thanks, I saw "waiting list" for that date so I thought it was full.
March looks to fit my calendar better anyway so I'm not bothered.

Paladin 02-10-2017 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Atekhed (Post 19637115)
Their Feb 25th class still has 5 slots according to their calendar.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sputnik (Post 19641475)
thanks, I saw "waiting list" for that date so I thought it was full.
March looks to fit my calendar better anyway so I'm not bothered.

Both Feb classes show full to me too. :confused:

Are there openings?

jon94520 02-10-2017 4:29 PM

I can hardly wait, me and my wife will be there in March. Ive heard great things about the course, looking forward to it.

Gun Kraft 02-11-2017 10:08 AM

Thanks jon, I'm glad to hear we're getting positive reviews. :)

Paladin 02-12-2017 12:56 PM

Quote:

Florida law requires you to submit proof of competency with a firearm in order to qualify for a concealed weapon license. A copy of a CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION or similar document from any of the following courses or classes is acceptable:

Any hunter education or hunter safety course approved by the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission or a similar agency in another state;

Any National Rifle Association firearms safety or training course;

Any firearm safety or training course or class available to the general public offered by a law enforcement agency, junior college, college, or private or public institution or organization or firearms training school, utilizing instructors certified by the National Rifle Association, the Criminal Justice Standards and Training Commission, or the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services;

Any law enforcement firearms safety or training course or class offered for security guards, investigators, special deputies, or any division or subdivision of law enforcement or security enforcement;

Any firearms training or safety course or class conducted by a state-certified instructor or by an instructor certified by the National Rifle Association.

The copy of the training certificate/document must be clear and legible and must include:

Your name,

Your instructor's name,

Your instructor's qualifications/credentials (National Rifle Association instructor, law enforcement firearms instructor, Class "K" Firearm Instructor licensed by the State of Florida, etc.), and

Your instructor's license/certification number.
More at:
http://www.freshfromflorida.com/Divi...-Documentation

Under what category does your class qualify for FL CCWs? your instructor qualifications/credentials?

Paladin 02-12-2017 1:11 PM

On your site (http://www.gunkraft.com/training-07.htm), you say
Quote:

Fingerprinting services are available for $15 per state.
In the FL application instruction material, it says:
Quote:

FINGERPRINT SUBMISSION INSTRUCTIONS

You must submit a complete and legible set of fingerprints on the FINGERPRINT CARD enclosed or by ELECTRONIC SCAN (see next page for information). If you use the enclosed card, your fingerprints must be taken at a LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY. Your local Florida county sheriff will provide fingerprinting service if requested and may charge a fee not to exceed $5. There may also be a charge associated with the fingerprint service provided by another law enforcement agency.
(emphasis added) From: p. 7 at: http://www.freshfromflorida.com/cont...structions.pdf

Since they accept electronic fingerprint scans only when done in FL by a FL LEA, I'm using the card for ink prints.

Since Gun Kraft is not a LEA, how do the prints you do satisfy FL's CCW requirements?

Gun Kraft 02-13-2017 9:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paladin (Post 19660865)
Under what category does your class qualify for FL CCWs? your instructor qualifications/credentials?

Paladin, I'm both an NRA and LE certified (CA POST) firearms instructor.

Quote:

Since Gun Kraft is not a LEA, how do the prints you do satisfy FL's CCW requirements?
They don't. I offer fingerprinting for Utah and Arizona applications. Both Florida and Virginia require printing at a law enforcement agency as you noted.

jon94520 03-18-2017 5:28 PM

Thanks for the great class Robin. Very informative subject material. Highly recommend this class.

Gun Kraft 03-19-2017 2:29 PM

Thank you for the recommendation Jon. I'm glad you found the class useful.

doc66 03-30-2017 7:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gun Kraft (Post 19884462)
The next open class is in two weeks on Sunday, April 9th. You can see a list of upcoming training dates or register for a class at www.gunkraft.com/calendar.htm

Hi,

Im contemplating signing up for the class on the 9th. After the class, I am able to apply for Utah? How much is the application fee for Utah? Thanks for the info.

Gun Kraft 03-31-2017 6:54 AM

The class satisfies the training requirements for Utah and their initial application fee is $47.

darkrealm024 06-30-2017 6:51 PM

Heard some gal at Turnerís in Rancho Cucamonga, CA say that California will block any federal law pertaining to Guns; which include reciprocity. Does this hold any truth?


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Gun Kraft 06-30-2017 7:48 PM

Sorry, but that's FUD. First, federal law takes precedence over state law. Second, reciprocity is an agreement between one state and another--the feds have nothing to do with it. Third, California doesn't recognize any other state's permit, although 24 other states do recognize California's.

As a general rule you can't go wrong following the adage "extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof." When you hear something like that ask the person for supporting facts like case law, penal codes or pending legislation. If/when they can't cite any, take it for what it is (hot air) and move on.

darkrealm024 06-30-2017 9:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gun Kraft (Post 20309043)
Sorry, but that's FUD. First, federal law takes precedence over state law. Second, reciprocity is an agreement between one state and another--the feds have nothing to do with it. Third, California doesn't recognize any other state's permit, although 24 other states do recognize California's.

As a general rule you can't go wrong following the adage "extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof." When you hear something like that ask the person for supporting facts like case law, penal codes or pending legislation. If/when they can't cite any, take it for what it is (hot air) and move on.



Yes, that's what I thought. We still have a hope with reciprocity here in CCW here in California. Thanks for the info.


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deephouse 07-24-2017 3:18 PM

^ I'm going to try to get in on that 8/6 class, thank you!


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deephouse 07-24-2017 3:20 PM

I'm sorry if this has been asked already, do you also offer the live scan service for the fingerprinting? If not, do you refer us to anyone for that piece? Thank you again.


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Gun Kraft 07-25-2017 8:54 PM

I can roll fingerprints for Utah and Arizona, and charge $15 per state. Florida and Virginia require prints be taken at a law enforcement agency.

deephouse 07-26-2017 7:20 AM

Thank you! I'll likely just get it all done there since I'm there already. Including the live fire test for FL. Registered and emailed with you yesterday, see you soon!


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deephouse 07-28-2017 5:05 PM

Pew pew pew


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