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ronlglock 11-21-2021 4:01 PM

Cops can’t own that many guns…
 
Without giving too much away, one of our customers is selling off about half of his 150-gun collection.

He told us that he really didn’t want to sell but his background check person told him that it would look bad if he had so many guns. He also was told that he needed to supply pictures of every gun as part of his documentation.

Is this true or anyone calling BS?

Grobie 11-21-2021 4:09 PM

Interesting. When I went through backgrounds I was only asked how many firearms I owned and it was left at that. Granted, I don't have anywhere near 150 firearms, but I was never asked to provide details other than the amount I owned.

esy 11-21-2021 4:15 PM

I was never asked anything about how many guns, what guns, or anything gun-related from what I recall.

explosivewhale 11-21-2021 4:22 PM

Sounds like they're applying for lapd...they're the one agency that i know of that cares....

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Surf & Turf 11-21-2021 5:01 PM

That is like looking bad if you have too much money!..... LOL!!!!

ASK ELAN , BILL or any other billionaires....

Spaffo 11-21-2021 6:09 PM

LAPD background never asked me any gun ownership questions, but they did ask if I ever had sex with animals! It was 1980, so maybe a standard question.

haisaimatt 11-21-2021 8:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spaffo (Post 26381439)
LAPD background never asked me any gun ownership questions, but they did ask if I ever had sex with animals! It was 1980, so maybe a standard question.

Considering humans are animals, I suppose the correct answer is “Yes” unless you were a virgin at the time. I bet they would have asked some follow-up questions, but it would have been awkward for a moment.

BigStiCK 11-21-2021 9:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spaffo (Post 26381439)
LAPD background never asked me any gun ownership questions, but they did ask if I ever had sex with animals! It was 1980, so maybe a standard question.

Knowing a few of our Officers that work backgrounds for hiring, this topic has come up. It is in fact a standard question and you would be disgusted to learn how often it is answered in the affirmative.
:eek:
I dont recall the firearm question being asked in my background.

Edit: I should mention that the animal thingy IS a disqualifyer.

caliprep 11-21-2021 9:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spaffo (Post 26381439)
LAPD background never asked me any gun ownership questions, but they did ask if I ever had sex with animals! It was 1980, so maybe a standard question.

Its one of the questions on their background screening, or PHS.

Yodaman 11-21-2021 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by caliprep (Post 26382030)
Its one of the questions on their background screening, or PHS.


That usually asked at LAPDs psych exam


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IrishJoe3 11-21-2021 11:36 PM

If the background investigator told me that, I'd go apply somewhere else. virtually all police agencies are hiring, most of whom couldn't care less. And I'm not sure I'd want to work in an agency that thought that was concerning.

jigenax 11-22-2021 1:20 AM

When I applied with LAPD in 1994, I had to submit a list of all firearms currently and previously owned. List included make, model, and SN.

jeffyhog 11-22-2021 2:29 AM

So 150 guns is a problem, but 75 is acceptable? That still doesn't make sense.

bk23103 11-22-2021 3:26 AM

The PIBQ and PHS for the two agencies I've worked for in the last ten years both required the make/model/serial of each of my firearms, and asked if I had ever held a CCW permit. It never came up again in the process. I doubt they even ran the serials.

gumby 11-22-2021 9:50 AM

I spent 30 years with the OCSD and was never asked about gun ownership.

1911su16b870 11-22-2021 9:53 AM

So every agency can ask what ever they think is important...# of guns owned is one question.

The applicant needs to carefully answer this question and discuss that with their background investigator/contact for the rationale.

It would be reasonable that a firearms instructor, sworn firearms SME, 01FFL, 03FFL holding applicant owns more firearms than the average applicant.

NorCalBusa 11-22-2021 9:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spaffo (Post 26381439)
LAPD background never asked me any gun ownership questions, but they did ask if I ever had sex with animals! It was 1980, so maybe a standard question.

And they still hired you? :facepalm:

Enzo rules 11-22-2021 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spaffo (Post 26381439)
LAPD background never asked me any gun ownership questions, but they did ask if I ever had sex with animals! It was 1980, so maybe a standard question.

I had a partner that came from LAPD. You should have seen some of the creatures he had sex with. Obviously he lied on that question.

bohoki 11-22-2021 10:55 AM

oh man this is bad if i had a gun to my head i coundn't answer how many guns i have i guess i could give a range more than 20 less than 50

M76 11-22-2021 11:02 AM

https://www.pewpewtactical.com/wp-co...ie-numbers.gif

ronlglock 11-22-2021 3:03 PM

Yeah, I told him to apply with other agencies so we’ll see if he follows my advice.

Spyder 11-22-2021 4:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1911su16b870 (Post 26383034)
It would be reasonable that a firearms instructor, sworn firearms SME, 01FFL, 03FFL holding applicant anyone who could afford to spend their money on whatever they wanted to spend it on regardless of their occupation or anything else anyone could think ofowns more firearms than the average applicant.

Remediated.

71MUSTY 11-22-2021 4:58 PM

Should have given the same honest answer I gave my wife when she asked me how many guns I have. "I don't know, I never counted" To which she responded "Well I know you have 6 safes". She forgot to two at the office.

gumby 11-22-2021 5:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 71MUSTY (Post 26384231)
Should have given the same honest answer I gave my wife when she asked me how many guns I have. "I don't know, I never counted" To which she responded "Well I know you have 6 safes". She forgot to two at the office.

😁😂🤣😎

Featureless 11-22-2021 5:14 PM

How many is too many I guess depends on the political proclivities of the Chief at the time. Do police chiefs report to mayors or the city council?

caliprep 11-22-2021 8:27 PM

In comparison to a Federal background..These local PD ones are so much tougher and more specific.

1911su16b870 11-23-2021 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spyder (Post 26384207)
Remediated.

Double tapped there :eek:

The first part of my post is relevant in the reply...while I agree with your "remediation"...the hiring agency sets policy and that is a fact their perception is solely relevant in hiring personnel..

ARDude 11-23-2021 2:35 PM

A sergeant I worked with told me that during his background he was told that he should get rid of his Nazi proof marked P38. He did. This was over 20 years ago. (LAPD)

downdiver2 11-23-2021 3:13 PM

The real question is: Where are the sale ads - please PM Me :D

Lonestargrizzly 11-23-2021 3:41 PM

I was asked that once for a deputy BI
“why do you own so many guns?”
“I only own three…?”
“My list shows that you own ten?”
“Ive sold 7 and now I own three…”
“so why do you own so many guns?”

ronlglock 11-23-2021 7:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by downdiver2 (Post 26386929)
The real question is: Where are the sale ads - please PM Me :D


He already sold them all. I waited to post until they were gone so I wouldn’t jinx him.

BAJ475 11-23-2021 8:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Featureless (Post 26384278)
How many is too many I guess depends on the political proclivities of the Chief at the time. Do police chiefs report to mayors or the city council?

There is no such thing as too many.

I Swan 11-24-2021 7:58 PM

In the late 90's I was asked the have you had sex with an animal or someone in your family not your wife on a polygraph. Non LE related.

kingransom 11-24-2021 8:34 PM

jeffyhog
So 150 guns is a problem, but 75 is acceptable? That still doesn't make sense

My exact same thoughts

CartridgeCalls 11-24-2021 8:36 PM

When I applied for my clearance I was asked if I owned guns. Wasn't asked how many.

fal_762x51 11-25-2021 12:01 PM

Because they will have a better return than the deferred compensation the employer is going to give me?

Che762x39 11-25-2021 3:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esy (Post 26381094)
I was never asked anything about how many guns, what guns, or anything gun-related from what I recall.

+1

In 1981 no one cared. Now it is all about agendas :oji:

Che762x39 11-25-2021 3:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARDude (Post 26386824)
A sergeant I worked with told me that during his background he was told that he should get rid of his Nazi proof marked P38. He did. This was over 20 years ago. (LAPD)

Most cops I have worked with, have no ideal what a "Nazi proof" or even what a "proof" mark is.

I am retired now but I remember telling my cop coworkers about a great day of duck hunting with my son (this was about 20 years ago) and they all were aghast and appalled. :oji:

hermosabeach 11-25-2021 3:38 PM

In California I'm pretty sure they can look up all recent purchases.

Easier to explain than to sell half and not acknowledge that you purchased 150

SharedShots 11-25-2021 5:30 PM

How many guns do you own?

The answer is:

150 but 30 of them are loaners for friends and family, 15 are unsuitable for discussion here, 5 are in a safe at the Captains place , 13 are in a long-term transit situation, right now there are six in my trunk and one1 each in my pocket, ankle holster and my waistband.

Does the belt bucket job count? It's only a 22 short.


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