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ilikerugers 07-21-2020 7:41 PM

NRA response?
 
Reuters reports, in a neutral manner, "Multiple videos posted online showed camouflage-clad officers without clear identification badges using force and unmarked vehicles to transport arrested protesters, tactics that civil-rights advocates said could violate protesters’ right to free speech under the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution."

I'm wondering what the NRA position is on this?

Calif Hunter 07-22-2020 8:40 AM

Maybe contact the NRA and ask them?

jamie404 07-22-2020 12:37 PM

The NRAs position is to keep asking for more money.

Garand Hunter 07-22-2020 5:02 PM

The NRA deals with firearm ownership and possession of same, not rioters being arrested.

Psalm 1

ilikerugers 07-22-2020 6:22 PM

From the home page: "The National Rifle Association is America's longest-standing civil rights organization."

The War Wagon 07-23-2020 5:56 AM

They'd probably express disappointment in the local politicians, refusing to uphold the law, & putting local police, business owners, and citizen's lives & property at risk so unnecessarily, that it required a federal response.

NRA is also pro-law & order. :oji:

BajaJames83 07-23-2020 5:57 AM

There is a difference between protesting and rioting...

SkyHawk 07-23-2020 10:52 AM

Keep on Trollin' on the River

ilikerugers 07-23-2020 8:32 PM

Am I trolling? Just calling it like it is. I find their silence on peaceful protesters being forced into unmarked vehicles illuminating.

OCEquestrian 07-24-2020 8:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ilikerugers (Post 24569488)
Am I trolling? Just calling it like it is. I find their silence on peaceful protesters being forced into unmarked vehicles illuminating.

:rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: GO back to your democrats for guns forum....

You DO KNOW that the feds are ONLY defending the Federal Courthouse and themselves right? They are NOT patrolling the city of Portland. They ARE ONLY going out to pursue and arrest violent rioters and agitators that they have witnessed committing crimes on federal property and against federal agents.. something they are well within their authority to do!

The protesters are free to go protest, peacefully or violently, elsewhere in Portland and the feds would have no involvement what so ever. You DO know that too don't you?


PS: not a surprise you are a Ruger fan;

"The best way to address the firepower concern is therefore not to try to outlaw or license many millions of older and perfectly legitimate firearms (which would be a licensing effort of staggering proportions) but to prohibit the possession of high capacity magazines. By a simple, complete and unequivocal ban on large capacity magazines, all the difficulty of defining 'assault rifle' and 'semi-automatic rifles' is eliminated. The large capacity magazine itself, separate or attached to the firearm, becomes the prohibited item. A single amendment to Federal firearms laws could effectively implement these objectives."
William B. Ruger

The War Wagon 07-24-2020 9:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ilikerugers (Post 24569488)
Am I trolling? Just calling it like it is. I find their silence on peaceful protesters...


http://www.familyfriendsfirearms.com...ilies/spit.gif :smilielol5::rofl2::smilielol5::rofl2::smilielol5: :rofl2::smilielol5:

Libtards... http://www.familyfriendsfirearms.com...pointlaugh.gif

CessnaDriver 07-24-2020 9:40 AM

Burnin', lootin', killin', occupyin', destroyin', assaultin'.... ain't protected protestin'.

ilikerugers 07-24-2020 9:00 PM

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They ARE ONLY going out to pursue and arrest violent rioters and agitators that they have witnessed committing crimes on federal property and against federal agents.. something they are well within their authority to do!
Does this comment suggest the mayor of Portland is a violent rioter and agitator, who was witnessed committing a crime?

"Federal agents in Portland, Ore., used tear gas on Mayor Ted Wheeler and other people Wednesday night during a protest against heavy-handed police tactics and racial injustice."

https://www.npr.org/sections/live-up...ht-of-protests

Foothills 07-24-2020 9:18 PM

NRA is busy training the minority business owners whose businesses were destroyed by white Antifa/Anarchists with tacit support from Democrat mayors.

OCEquestrian 07-25-2020 6:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ilikerugers (Post 24574115)
Does this comment suggest the mayor of Portland is a violent rioter and agitator, who was witnessed committing a crime?

"Federal agents in Portland, Ore., used tear gas on Mayor Ted Wheeler and other people Wednesday night during a protest against heavy-handed police tactics and racial injustice."

https://www.npr.org/sections/live-up...ht-of-protests

I guess the mayor should choose his friends more carefully... THEY got gassed and the wind dispersed the gas it everywhere... but you are too stupid to have seen that in the video or figured it out for yourself huh? Climb back under your cock donaldbabbett.

OCEquestrian 07-25-2020 6:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Foothills (Post 24574193)
NRA is busy training the minority business owners whose businesses were destroyed by white Antifa/Anarchists with tacit support from Democrat mayors.

Business owners who have lost everything. Business insurance has three major exclusions; Acts of God, War and Civil unrest.

Those rioters stole those business owners livelihoods, their employees livelihoods and in the case of the owners, simply took the business that will not be replaced but remember how ignorant, uneducated the BLM rioters are.. which is why they have the ****ty lives they have to begin with that they need to blame everyone else for. The BLM rioters will go thru life with nothing unless they steal it or have it given to them.

Given them money will do NOTHING to change who they are and how they live , the choices they make.

wpage 07-25-2020 6:41 AM

Expecting a NRA response to a legitimate federal response to preserve tax payer assets is a ridiculous question.

The National Rifle Association mission is to help gun owners preserve their 2nd amendment rights, among other issues.

ilikerugers 07-25-2020 10:15 AM

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Expecting a NRA response to a legitimate federal response to preserve tax payer assets is a ridiculous question.
Does the NRA stand against tyranny or does it not? Shoving peaceful protestors into unmarked vehicles without specifying charges suggests a twilight of evil descending.

OCEquestrian 07-25-2020 2:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ilikerugers (Post 24575784)
Does the NRA stand against tyranny or does it not? Shoving peaceful protestors into unmarked vehicles without specifying charges suggests a twilight of evil descending.

A guy with a helmet, body armor.. face mask etc is a peaceful protester? You sir are a MORON if you think that.

The War Wagon 07-25-2020 3:18 PM

Anqueefers... :facepalm:


https://i.ibb.co/sg3ZhSS/CBP1.jpg

71MUSTY 07-25-2020 3:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ilikerugers (Post 24569488)
Am I trolling? Just calling it like it is. I find their silence on peaceful protesters being forced into unmarked vehicles illuminating.

Probably just like the Black SUV's with American Flags on their doors you guys at BLM claimed were driving around abducting Blacks and lynching them.. Total fiction.

71MUSTY 07-25-2020 3:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ilikerugers (Post 24575784)
Does the NRA stand against tyranny or does it not? Shoving peaceful protestors into unmarked vehicles without specifying charges suggests a twilight of evil descending.

Actually No, it shows the twilight of evil has descended and God's children are reacting. So back to Hell demon spawn.

nedro 07-25-2020 3:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jamie404 (Post 24563130)
The NRAs position is to keep asking for more money.

Their position is to not listen to soy boy POS idiots.
I support that whole heartedly.

sbo80 07-25-2020 5:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ilikerugers (Post 24574115)
Does this comment suggest the mayor of Portland is a violent rioter and agitator, who was witnessed committing a crime?

"Federal agents in Portland, Ore., used tear gas on Mayor Ted Wheeler and other people Wednesday night during a protest against heavy-handed police tactics and racial injustice."

No, you are conflating completely different actions. The Mayor was not arrested. He was in the crowd, which was tear gassed. Tear gassing a mob is not the same thing as arresting individual people. And the "abducting peaceful protesters" is the media byline. Is that actually true? Random people walking down the street are being abducted in vans? Really? I just can't see any LE officers, even federal ones, doing that. Because to what end? What would it accomplish? They want charges, which means people they saw throwing rocks etc.

ilikerugers 07-25-2020 5:12 PM

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Total fiction.
Total fiction? Whatever happened was sufficient to drive the chief prosecutor in Philadelphia to issue a statement:

“My dad volunteered and served in World War II to fight fascism, like most of my uncles, so we would not have an American president brutalizing and kidnapping Americans for exercising their constitutional rights and trying to make America a better place, which is what patriots do,” said Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner in a statement. “Anyone, including federal law enforcement, who unlawfully assaults and kidnaps people will face criminal charges from my office."

Well, my dad also volunteered and served in World War II and fought fascism.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...federal-agents

sbo80 07-26-2020 1:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ilikerugers (Post 24577312)
Total fiction? Whatever happened was sufficient to drive the chief prosecutor in Philadelphia to issue a statement:

Philadelphia making a "statement" about things that happened on the other side of the country where they have zero direct information? That's hardly conclusive, and obviously a CYA. Even NBC, who we know love Trump, described it as
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after law enforcement erected a steel fence around the court's perimeter, people targeted the barricade by shaking it or trying to climb over it. Once the fence is breached, the federal officers come out. They throw tear gas into the crowd and use projectiles. No one standing near the scene is spared, not even Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler.
I don't think there's any legitimate argument that what the Feds are doing there is fascist gestapo suppressing people's first amendment.

The War Wagon 07-26-2020 3:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sbo80 (Post 24580637)
Philadelphia...




"Philthy"... :rolleyes:

pacrat 07-28-2020 1:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ilikerugers (Post 24564591)
From the home page: "The National Rifle Association is America's longest-standing civil rights organization."

Crawl back into Momma's basement until you learn to read.

National RIFLE Association...............NOT...... National RIOT Association. :facepalm:

They WE do not involve themselves OURSELVES in the antics of UnAmerican Fools. Driven by self proclaimed Marxists who vow to destroy OUR COUNTRY.

We only involve OURSELVES in civil rights abuses pertaining to the 2nd Amendment.

mooner760HD 07-28-2020 1:27 PM

Why would the NRA have a response on a situation that has nothing to do with them?

ilikerugers 07-29-2020 4:47 PM

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Why would the NRA have a response on a situation that has nothing to do with them?
The NRA has made its platform on opposing tyranny.

Here is the path taken by Mussolini, Hitler, and Stalin, and I believe Pinochet and Franco, as well.

1. Invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy
2. Create secret prisons where torture takes place
3. Develop a paramilitary force not answerable to citizens
4. Set up an internal surveillance system
5. Harass and infiltrate citizens' groups
6. Engage in arbitrary detention and release
7. Target key individuals
8. Control the press
9. Criticism = espionage and Dissent = treason
10. Suspend the rule of law

czakita 07-30-2020 3:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ilikerugers (Post 24569488)
Am I trolling? Just calling it like it is. I find their silence on peaceful protesters being forced into unmarked vehicles illuminating.

Only the peaceful protestors that are attacking officers and destroying Federal buildings are the ones being detained, or forced into unmarked vehicles. Morons stop destroying government property. Learn the consequences of your actions entitled irresponsible children.

The NRA gets involved with civil rights abuses when it focuses on the Second Amendment.

Marcus herrera 07-30-2020 9:55 PM

I say
 
A first amendment protest does not involve destruction of property, hurling of blunt objects, blinding people with laser lights or do bodily harm just to get their message across.
It's the protesters organization's fault for not keeping those agitators from blending into their demonstration.:mad:

readysetgo 07-30-2020 10:13 PM

What a maroon. Illuminating ha STFU, what are you a Cambridge fellow in a smoking jacket. :laugh:

This is the Friends of NRA sub forum ya lop. Not the same as NRA proper. They raise funds for shooting education type programs, they’re not gonna have anything to say about your fictional SJW outrage.

Learn how to do a better straw man at the very least.

ilikerugers 08-01-2020 4:01 PM

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This is the Friends of NRA sub forum ya lop
Does NRA stand against tyranny or does it not? It seems friends of the NRA would be interested in reminding the organization of its often-stated position if the country takes steps down a path of tyranny. Why would you not? I mean, the CEO took home over $5 million of your dollars in 2015. Another $1.4 million in 2017. Who knows how much in 2016, 2018, 2019, 2020? Why not make him earn his (ample) pay?

https://www.businessinsider.com/nra-...pending-2019-8

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A first amendment protest does not involve destruction of property, hurling of blunt objects, blinding people with laser lights or do bodily harm just to get their message across.
The escalation was expected, and that is the reason the Trump Administration sent Federal personnel to the peaceful protests. He created a reality TV moment. Check campaign records, he then spent $26 million selling advertising for his reelection campaign that featured footage.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020...nts-polls.html

Tom Ridge, first secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, labeled it an invasion. He acknowledged the Administration had the right, but then said, "...it corrodes the federal system of government we have, the republic... I had the authority to go 70 miles an hour across the Pennsylvania Turnpike, and I could do it in a blizzard if I want. But I'm not sure I want to do it."

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/tr...ion-ridge-says

Sending federal personnel to peaceful protests is a check item on the path to tyranny and fascism and a very dangerous precedent has been set.

This is an opportunity for the NRA to make its voice heard.

The War Wagon 08-01-2020 4:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ilikerugers (Post 24608278)
Does NRA stand against tyranny or does it not?


Yes. So NATURALLY, they're against the fascist Anqueefers. :oji:

Didn't you read the editorials in this month's magazine? I mean, YOU'RE a member, so you get one of the magazines - RIGHT?

readysetgo 08-01-2020 6:17 PM

Again Friends of NRA /= NRA.

You’re off topic for this sub and you’re a psycho weirdo projecting some psycho weird BS. Take a walk to a federal building a forest or psych ward, have some ridilin, get some help.

What is the Humane Societies position on abortion?

CABilly 08-05-2020 7:54 PM

Dude it's pointless with this crowd. The NRA probably just wants to stay on mission to protect against laws that infringe on the 2A. The NRA membership are mostly happy with our slide toward tyrannical fascism. Most are cheering the jackboots from the sidelines.

ilikerugers 08-06-2020 4:14 PM

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Dude it's pointless with this crowd.
If people want to give money with no accountability to an organization that lost its way years ago, then who's the fool?

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...o-dissolve-nra

The War Wagon 08-06-2020 4:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CABilly (Post 24626542)
The NRA membership are mostly happy with our slide toward tyrannical fascism.




GOOD news! O'bummer's been UN-employed for almost 4 years now! :D

wpage 08-06-2020 4:50 PM

What is King Cuomo the commie leader of NY who leads the crusade against our constitutional right to keep and bear arms. Or Cuomos flunky ***** AG who dares to file this bogus lawsuit against a institution since 1871?

Why would they respond to a ridiculous question. Would you?


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