Sacramento
UPDATE: The sheriff now accepts "self-defense" as sufficient Good Cause. At the top of the sheriff's "Concealed Weapons Permit and Application Process" .pdf document (available via: http://www.sacsheriff.com/Pages/Orga.../SIIB/CCW.aspx), is the following:
Self-defense may be considered good cause for the issuance of a permit, however, each application is unique and the Sheriff retains the ability to deny permit applications where it appears that doing so is in the interest of public safety. ***** Sacramento County CCW Policy, Guidelines and Forms can be found Here Quote:
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EDIT: As of December 2010, the links I had posted here are no longer valid. Please refer to current information in the post above.
As many of us have learned firsthand, the required separate good cause statement for Sacramento just needs to list "self defense" (i.e., "I wish to obtain a permit in order that I may carry a concealed handgun for self defense.") As of December 2010, the Sacramento County Sheriff's Department is now scheduling appointments for CCW matters online at http://sacsheriff.checkappointments.com/ According to reports from a couple of recent applicants, you don't need to list your handgun(s) expected to be carried at the time you apply. You can provide that information when you qualify. See: Quote:
Edit 10/4/2011: SSD has implemented a policy requiring that the instructor initial off on your qualification certification that they verified the serial numbers of the weapons you qualified with. See http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...&postcount=863 |
FYI first two links don't work for me.
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EDIT: Links are no longer valid as of December 2010 |
One thing that wasn't clear to me when I got started is if I was supposed to obtain my training before applying. No, wait until you're approved or at least close to expecting to be approved. Reportedly, the training certificate must be less than 90 days old when you go in for your permit after being approved.
Some sources for CCW training I had checked or heard from others about (in alphabetical order of URLs): http://www.advancedsecurityinstitute.com/ Initial: BSIS / CCW 16-Hr Class: $110 http://casecuritytraining.com/ $90 for 2 day course plus $10 for each addition handgun. $20 for 50-round bags of ammo. http://lfiguns.com/ Wesley Lagomarsino has CCW classes for several counties as well as Utah, Oregon, Virginia, etc. Normal fee is $200 but Wes discounts all referrals, Calguns members, NRA members, Military personnel, etc. to $175. http://www.resolutesg.com/services/p...d-use-of-force Resolute Security Group, Defensive Pistol and Use of Force class taught by John Souza to meet CCW requirements. Fee is $250. http://sacvalley.org/ Sacramento Valley Shooting Center has been offering classes. I believe the cost is $250 and more information should be available when a new page is added to their web site (look for a tab at the top titled "Training") which will probably get uploaded on 2/3/2011. The next training class as of this writing is on 2/19-2/20. http://www.universalsecurityacademy.com/index.htm $110 (used to offer $10 discount to CalGuns members, but not any longer per sasc40cal - worth reading for review feedback). $10 is charged for each additional handgun after the first handgun. http://www.yankeeshooter.com/ $215 with free annual requalifications. If there are others that should be added here, please send me a PM and I'll add it. |
To turn in your permit you need to go to the Sheriff's office at 711 G Street. For those not very familiar with downtown Sacramento, here is a link to a Google map:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...05509&t=h&z=18 The entrance is on the south side of the building, maybe 50 feet or so east of the intersection. Parking in the parking lot across the street (entrance about across from the entrance to the office) is a few bucks. There is also some street parking right across the street. Your entire visit may only last 15 minutes so it won't cost much for parking. You're supposedly supposed to bring a second form of ID and a car registration works for that, though they didn't ask for mine. |
CCWs issued by SSD up until September 2010 or so were restricted and invalid within 1,000 feet of a school zone and their procedures posted online up until December still indicated that CCWs issued followed this policy. However, that policy was changed in practice in October 2010 and the SSD communicated this all existing permit holders via a letter dated October 5th, a copy of which is located in another discussion thread at http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...4&postcount=44 For a good copy of said, letter, please refer to the pdf linked in Gene's post at http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...8&postcount=61.
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Someone asked me to summarize the costs associated with obtaining a CCW, so I'll list them here:
$20 due with submission of application (cashier's check or money order) [as of May 2012, personal checks no longer accepted) $122 due for LiveScan after receiving approval letter (money order or credit card) $90-$175 (or more?) for CCW training by approved instructor (no complete list seems to exist of approved instructors that I'm aware of) $80 due after completing above and turning in LiveScan and training certificate/range qualification to Amber (I'm not yet sure what forms of payment are accepted as I'm not that far along myself) |
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I set up an appointment did I have to do that or could I just go there to drop it off.
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Seems the requirements are to better protect society (insuring someone that should not get a permit doesn't, making sure the person has some training and knowledge, etc) than the permit holder and therefor the burden should be on the people and not the person. |
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One more resource, re: Live Scan. If you don't get the Live Scan results in seven days, you can check the status by calling the automated number at the top of the page at http://ag.ca.gov/fingerprints/contactus.php (916-227-4557). Option 1 explains that letters get entered as displayed on your phone keypad but are repeated back as numbers to be confirmed. I checked my information about 12 hours after having my prints taken (just to see how the system worked), and they reported no status information existed for me. Pretty much as expected.
Also, when you get your Live Scan number done, your ATI number is written down by the SSD officer at the bottom of the page. One member told me that when his was done the number was written down incorrectly, leaving out some digits. It should be a letter followed by three numbers, three more letters, and then three more numbers. You might want to check for that when having your Live Scan performed. |
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EDIT 1/1/11: See clarification obtained by Wes from Amber, posted at http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...&postcount=209 (training is valid for two years) |
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I too agree that there needs to be training but the ccw training I've attended is woefully inadequate and have witnessed people that should have outright failed get passed b/c they paid their money for the class. These classes fulfill the licensing requirement but people should seek out better training for gun handling skills elsewhere; GS, TR, FS, TFTT, etc. |
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Other costs to consider: Ammo for qualification and practice. Time off from work to go to the SO at least twice. Time spent going to class and various other appointments. Gas/bus fare for all that running around. |
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Edit: the $77 is due at the renewal every two years, not annually. See correction on this matter by jb7706 below. Re-qualifications are required annually but the SSD doesn't collect a fee for those being submitted in off years. |
The training should be offered by the Sheriff at no charge. The department has a huge range that goes unused a great deal of the time. Would be easy to open it up to people seeking permits or just knowledge/training for home use at no cost.
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Thanks I made the apointment it is not until january seem like a really long wait. Just wanted to make sure. |
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Taken from the ccw_process.pdf from SacSo website: Fees for Renewals of Existing Permits: $52.00 State of California renewal fee (check or money order only) made payable to the State of California. (Subject to change). $25.00 renewal fee (check or money order only) made payable to the County of Sacramento. |
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The Sacramento page on CGF.org has been updated with the details of the process as we currently know them. If you have newer data, please post here so we can vet and update:
http://calgunsfoundation.org/index.p...122-sacramento -Gene |
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Add that you will receive a letter from Amber informing you that your prints are back and to come down to 711 G within 30 days of the date of the letter. I can scan and send you a copy of my letter if you want it. If an applicant can't get into a class within 30 days of Live Scan I'd suggest holding off on prints until the class has been completed. |
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Somebody complained about having to be fingerprinted when they had done it before but it was on an older system. That gave me the impression that they are good for a long time or "forever", but I too may be wrong. Fortunately, my training is taking place about 9 days after my LiveScan and I'm going in to see Amber as soon as she contacts me, maybe about the same time. I might even might shoot her (yikes, bad choice of words?) an e-mail as soon as I veryify my LiveScan status on the automated phone system. The approval letter didn't say anything about waiting for a letter from Amber. The approval letter arrived here 8 days after it was dated.
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Calling tomorrow to set up an appointment. I've have had CCW's in two other counties in California, and I don't remember it being quite this crazy. Oh well, I guess if you want the thing, you'll do what you have to do.
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Can I skip the $122 live scan cuz I had already done a live scan while applying for Certificate of Eligibility(COE) a few months back?
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Gray, why is that? See post #31 above and explain, please. Because it's another county?
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The previous LiveScan had to be for a CCW. A COE is NOT a CCW... therefore you must do it again.
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PC12052(b) However, if the license applicant has previously applied to the same licensing authority for a license to carry firearms pursuant to Section 12050 and the applicant's fingerprints and fee have been previously forwarded to the Department of Justice, as provided by this section, the licensing authority shall note the previous identification numbers and other data that would provide positive identification in the files of the Department of Justice on the copy of any subsequent license submitted to the department in conformance with Section 12053 and no additional application form or fingerprints shall be required. |
I've been LiveScanned by the SSD for other purposes, but not for carrying firearms and the SSD was NOT the recipient of the resulting clearance letter, therefore... I must be scanned again.
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