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scamp62 02-16-2020 10:02 AM

Have a question for the brain trust here.
 
I am truly asking this for a friend. He has a nephew that lives in Reno, and has a Ruger Mk4 pistol that he whats to sell to my friend that lives here in SoCal, what has to happen to do this deal? I thank you for any information that I can pass on!

Oldmandan 02-16-2020 10:20 AM

Can’t do it. Not legal

Off roster handgun

ARDude 02-16-2020 10:38 AM

The nephew moves to Ca, then the two Ca residents can do a PPT. Or your friend can move to Nevada, and buy it from his nephew.

sonofeugene 02-16-2020 10:59 AM

How is that possible? People buy used, off roster hand guns all the time.

superdave50 02-16-2020 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by sonofeugene (Post 23893689)
How is that possible? People buy used, off roster hand guns all the time.

When both parties are residents of the same state

ar15barrels 02-16-2020 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scamp62 (Post 23893538)
I am truly asking this for a friend. He has a nephew that lives in Reno, and has a Ruger Mk4 pistol that he whats to sell to my friend that lives here in SoCal, what has to happen to do this deal? I thank you for any information that I can pass on!

Intra-family out-of-state transfers only apply to direct bloodline so it has to be his mother/father or his son/daughter that he is getting the gun from.
You can NOT do an intra-family out-of-state transfer with a brother/sister, aunt/uncle, cousin/niece/nephew or grandfather/grandmother.

sonofeugene 02-16-2020 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by superdave50 (Post 23893698)
When both parties are residents of the same state

I may be missing something, but I see off roster guns being sold all the time in California. At least I think so.

superdave50 02-16-2020 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofeugene (Post 23893832)
I may be missing something, but I see off roster guns being sold all the time in California. At least I think so.

Yes, it is common and legal, when both parties are California residents. The scenario mentioned in op is NV resident selling to CA resident. That scenario would not be legal.

sonofeugene 02-16-2020 1:25 PM

Got it. Thanks!

ar15barrels 02-16-2020 2:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofeugene (Post 23893832)
I may be missing something, but I see off roster guns being sold all the time in California. At least I think so.

By CA residents.
When both the buyer and seller are residents, the gun can transfer as a private party transfer through an FFL dealer.

redcliff 02-16-2020 4:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ar15barrels (Post 23893761)
Intra-family out-of-state transfers only apply to direct bloodline so it has to be his mother/father or his son/daughter that he is getting the gun from.
You can NOT do an intra-family out-of-state transfer with a brother/sister, aunt/uncle, cousin/niece/nephew or grandfather/grandmother.

Is no Grandparents to grandchild a recent change? I've been looking in this excellent thread maintained by Librarian http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1179771 but can't find where grandparents are no longer allowed to transfer to their grandchildren, or vice versa.

ar15barrels 02-16-2020 6:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redcliff (Post 23894630)
Is no Grandparents to grandchild a recent change? I've been looking in this excellent thread maintained by Librarian http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1179771 but can't find where grandparents are no longer allowed to transfer to their grandchildren, or vice versa.

Don't know for sure but I always understood it to be 1 generation direct bloodline.
Grandparents traditionally give to parents and then parents give to children.
I don't know if you can bypass the generation and do it directly as well.

Quiet 02-16-2020 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ar15barrels (Post 23894854)
Quote:

Originally Posted by redcliff (Post 23894630)
Is no Grandparents to grandchild a recent change? I've been looking in this excellent thread maintained by Librarian http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1179771 but can't find where grandparents are no longer allowed to transfer to their grandchildren, or vice versa.

Don't know for sure but I always understood it to be 1 generation direct bloodline.
Grandparents traditionally give to parents and then parents give to children.
I don't know if you can bypass the generation and do it directly as well.

Nothing has changed.

Grandparent and grandchild is still considered immediate family. [PC 16720(b)]



Penal Code 16720
As used in this part, “immediate family member” means either of the following relationships:
(a) Parent and child.
(b) Grandparent and grandchild.


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