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So I'm sitting here decapping some .40 brass that I bought at a gun show and some of it is Glocked, man I hate that stuff, I know I can still reload it but it looks like I'm not gonna get too many more goes at it, the bulges are horrific, **** Glocks, Rant over, back to decapping.:oji:
The fact those are in a resold bad is kind of lame.
I'd save them up and notify the company you owe me xxx cases I paid for that are unusable assuming it's a decent amount of them. Or just stop buying factory packaged brass. Obviously it's half junk. Trade via CGN, keep the reloading section happy and do business with your fellow gunners.
As for Glocks that bulge brass. I see guys complain their guns do it. I honestly don't care. You have to remember your reloading to shoot, not shooting to reload.
stphnman20
10-30-2014, 7:24 AM
what do you mean by, "It's been Glocked?" What bulge? Primer bulge?
I never had any problems with "Glock brass."
longrange99
10-30-2014, 7:39 AM
You might want to look at one of these depending upon how often you encounter the problem. I haven't bought one, but am considering it.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/231187/redding-g-rx-carbide-base-sizing-die-kit-40-s-and-w-357-sig-10mm-auto
wild_weasel
10-30-2014, 8:22 AM
I have been reloading for my Gen 4 G17, G19, and G26 along with a Ruger Blackhawk Convertible which has really tight chambers. The brass fired in my Gen 4 Glocks does not appear overly stressed and my reloads chamber fine in the Ruger Convertible.
Post a pic of what they look like. There are bulges and there are bulges. Not all bulges are safe to reload.
Oceanbob
10-30-2014, 8:45 AM
So I'm sitting here decapping some .40 brass that I bought at a gun show and some of it is Glocked, man I hate that stuff, I know I can still reload it but it looks like I'm not gonna get too many more goes at it, the bulges are horrific, **** Glocks, Rant over, back to decapping.:oji:
.40 is famous for the bulge.......:D
I use this if needed. (Reloading 10MM that went thru a Glock barrel, which is .007 thousandths larger in the chamber than my aftermarket barrels)
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/231187/redding-g-rx-carbide-base-sizing-die-kit-40-s-and-w-357-sig-10mm-auto?cm_vc=subv1231187
That is Carbide. They do a steel one about half price but it does require lube.
:cool2:
Mot Mi
10-30-2014, 8:51 AM
One of the reasons I will never buy a .40 caliber gun. That way I dont have yo deal with the glock bulge. Plus, I am not a fan of glocks sorry to say and have to rub it in for you. Some glocks are just notorious for the bulge. Just do what I do and stick to 9 and 45.
Mstnpete
10-30-2014, 8:55 AM
A carbide resizing die always corrects brass buldge from the pressures of 40SW and from some major 9 loads.
wild_weasel
10-30-2014, 9:22 AM
Understand now, the 38 Super in the 1911 has a similar issue.
klewan
10-30-2014, 9:27 AM
My Gen 2 23 has the full support of the brass while chambered so it never 'Glocked' any brass. Other issue with .40 is the pressure peaks early and starts to unlock the slide while there is still a lot of pressure in the barrel/brass. So it bulges. I've picked up .40 brass that is almost blown thru the side because of the bulge. I have a backyard range, so I see exactly what my gun is doing to the brass.
RR.44
10-30-2014, 10:05 AM
I considered buying that Redding push through die, I may still get it, I don't own a Glock .40, I have a Sig .40 and a CZ .40, I didn't expect there to be that many Glock brass in the batch that I bought, I asked the guy who sold it to me about that specifically cause I could see a few through the bag, he assured me that only a handful were from a Glock, I have found over 75 out of the 500 that I bought. My RCBS dies do a pretty good job of realigning the bulge but you can definitely tell which ones were bulged.
cindynles
10-30-2014, 10:10 AM
I run all my 40 brass through a Lee Bulge Buster. It's kind of a pain and it adds another step to the loading process, but I haven't had any problems with my 40 ammo not passing the case gauge since I started doing it. It not only takes care of the the bulge, it also re-sizes the case rim too.
mjmagee67
10-30-2014, 10:49 AM
Wow I just resize and reload 40 S&W brass. Never looked for the mythical Glock bulge. All my brass is once fired range pickups that are resized with either Lee or Dillon carbide resizer dies. Never had a problem, but I only shoot 500 or so 40's a month.
Carcassonne
10-30-2014, 11:03 AM
what do you mean by, "It's been Glocked?" What bulge? Primer bulge?
I never had any problems with "Glock brass."
+1
I never had a problem with "Glocked" brass.
To anyone who wants to listen (read): If you want to buy reloading brass AND you want to reload it more than once, buy brass from a Police range. Police don't shoot reloads. The brass you get will be 1x fired, and all the same headstamp.
If you buy junk brass, you get junk brass.
P.S. If you think "Glocked" brass is bad, you should see "Shielded" brass.
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ducky_0811
10-30-2014, 2:31 PM
The glock finally listened to the masses and made a barrel with a fully supported chamber in the gen 4. Anyone who shoots a .40 cal gen 4 won't get the bulge. With that being said I too, am not a fan of glock pistols for other reasons than the chambers but this thread isn't about whether or not we like glocks.
I have reloaded glocked brass before without any special steps, and I have had zero issues thus far. I say reload them and shoot them, or get a push through die to cereal the case bulb and be done with it
Pablo5959
10-30-2014, 5:20 PM
Do they look like these .45acp's?
http://i1321.photobucket.com/albums/u543/Pablo5959/imagejpg1_zps17c96eba.jpg (http://s1321.photobucket.com/user/Pablo5959/media/imagejpg1_zps17c96eba.jpg.html)
9mmrevolver
10-30-2014, 5:22 PM
I shot glocks and have never seen brass look like that. That's some ****ed up brass you got there
sunborder
10-30-2014, 6:15 PM
You have to remember your reloading to shoot, not shooting to reload.
Hey, speak for yourself!
Cowboy T
10-30-2014, 7:36 PM
What kind of gun did that to .45 ACP brass?? Even our Glock 21 at work doesn't do that; it's surprisingly kind to the brass.
bigedp51
10-31-2014, 12:57 AM
The Glock bulge problem was fixed in the mid gen 2 production glocks with a change in the feed ramp and stronger thicker brass in the base by the ammunition manufactures.
And the continued Glock bulge myth continues because people go to gun shows and buy brass without looking at it. :rolleyes:
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/bigedp51/CaseSupport2-1_zpsb7ee6216.jpg
Below is my .40 Glock gen 3 and I have never had a bulged case.
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/bigedp51/40SampW001_zpsfc7e7b54.jpg
And the bulge problem is not just limited to Glocks. ;)
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/bigedp51/Support-vs-Not_zps86a3ae76.jpg
Clownpuncher
10-31-2014, 8:31 PM
I've never seen any like that .45 brass above, that's pretty excessive.
I run all my .40 and .45 through one of these. Most go through easy but some are snug, it seems to work as I've never had an issue. Of course, it's a Lee product so, like a Glock, 1/2 the people on this board will automatically dismiss it.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/882261/lee-bulge-buster-base-sizing-kit-380-auto-40-s-and-w-45-acp
Renigeid
01-05-2015, 3:07 PM
My G22, 3rd Gen doesn't bulge the brass either.
Syntax Error
01-05-2015, 3:30 PM
If you think thats bad, try some 308 LC brass Fired from a generously chambered MG. i swear I couldnt tell if I was resizing or case forming :willy_nilly:
Nothing a Forster Co-Ax can't handle! :)
Carsgunsandchics
01-05-2015, 4:30 PM
Sorry you had to buy .40 brass. At the Sacramento reloading club meeting we usually have people trying to give it away.
bohoki
01-05-2015, 4:40 PM
I run all my 40 brass through a Lee Bulge Buster. It's kind of a pain and it adds another step to the loading process, but I haven't had any problems with my 40 ammo not passing the case gauge since I started doing it. It not only takes care of the the bulge, it also re-sizes the case rim too.
i would gladly trade a push through sizing to trimming and deburring .223
Dagoman
01-05-2015, 4:44 PM
Looks like H. titegroup over loads to me. Seen it before.
Must be eaten the wrong Olives.
JTROKS
01-05-2015, 5:20 PM
I like the name G-RX
Glock medicine. LOL
I use the Lee Carbide Factory Crimp Die as a push through. With the 45 it seems my RCBS carbide sizing die resizes the brass to a smaller diameter than my Lee FCD. With 9mm I use a modified non carbide die and she'll holder to size them down to 100% reliability. I shot some 9mm today that weren't sized through my modified die. I had about 4% failure to fully seat in my Sprinfield RO. Other than that it was a good day.
dhagerty
01-05-2015, 5:27 PM
those look like an Overcut loading ramp and with a hot load.
seen this a lot with some Gov't 45's
MrElectric03
01-05-2015, 5:33 PM
Sucks but part of reloading and owning a .40. I run all of my .40 brass through a redding grx carbide die. Not a big deal as only put a hundred round or so through my .40 when I take it out.
TexasJackKin
01-06-2015, 4:40 PM
I resize with a Lee carbide resizing die, and reload all the .40 cal range pick ups I can find, and the only time I've had any trouble getting one to chamber, is when I've inadvertently, but my .40 cal magazine in my wife's 9MM Glock!
I've never seen "Glocked" brass as bad as that pictured above, and I *think* the lee die, has less lead, and resizes further down the case.
I've made a pusher to push the cases though my Lee factory crimp die, but have not had to use it.
3RDGEARGRNDRR
01-07-2015, 6:34 AM
Lol, i just saw this on Amazon, but wasnt sure if it was worth it,
"BUGLE BUSTER" (http://www.amazon.com/Lee-LP90487-Precision-Bugle-Buster/dp/B005KW5F3K)
himurax13
01-12-2015, 4:29 PM
Wow. I simply use a lee undersized resizing/decapping die on my 550 and that knocks out the bulge.
I also use a KKM barrel in my Glock to keep that from happening as well.
I just got the EGW U-Die in .40 S&W. A friend recommended it. He shoots quite a bit through his LIMITED guns and he swears he hasn't had one issue with his brass.
Personally the G-RX and Lee bulge buster add too much work. That's a whole another process. I believe the G-RX you can run brass directly through it. Is it the LEE that must be sized and THEN you can run it through the bulge buster? I've never used either so I could be completely wrong.
I'm all for safe brass, but that's way too much work, IMO
himurax13
01-12-2015, 6:00 PM
+1 on EGW dies.
Technically they are lee dies that were undersized that EGW sells. ;)
I have used them for years and I have never used a bulge buster. If the undersized dies can't fix it, they get tossed.
Technically they are lee dies that were undersized that EGW sells. ;)
I have used them for years and I have never used a bulge buster. If the undersized dies can't fix it, they get tossed.
Quite true, but i "know" as soon as that's said, someone is going to buy a LEE undersizing die thinking they are the same, when they're not.
IMO, better to call them EGW and let people question you about it later :)
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