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manywelps
06-06-2014, 9:49 PM
Why are people trying to sell used P938s for nearly $1000?

Just look at the For Sale: Handguns subforum.

They're $530 new... and tack on $90 for shipping and SSE vs PPT...

wtf guys?

dyson
06-06-2014, 9:53 PM
they are $700+ at the LGS, not many places can do it. Prob have to travel to Manteca from the Bay to get one. $1000 is still way too high tho, but they are not the easiest to obtain.

manywelps
06-06-2014, 9:55 PM
they are $700+ at the LGS, not many places can do it. Prob have to travel to Manteca from the Bay to get one. $1000 is still way too high tho.That's stupid expensive, but the people trying to sell for $900+ here...

mark19
06-06-2014, 10:14 PM
Why are people trying to sell used P938s for nearly $1000?

Just look at the For Sale: Handguns subforum.

They're $530 new... and tack on $90 for shipping and SSE vs PPT...

wtf guys?

Where did you find it for $530? They retail for $836 on Sig's website.

manywelps
06-06-2014, 10:14 PM
Assuming $25 shipping and $100 SSE, which is high:

Brand spanking new ones are $700 post-transfer, $665 if you subtract the PPT fee.

Where did you find it for $530? They retail for $836 on Sig's website.

Sig always has massively inflated MSRP:

http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?Keywords=P938&BuyNowOnly=1&Sort=4&Tab=2

dyson
06-06-2014, 10:22 PM
What places do the SSE and transfer for a P938 for $100?

I have not found many that can do a P938 besides the ones that have them in store and charge big time if its not from their inventory. Part of the reason why I still havent gotten one.

cc426
06-06-2014, 10:23 PM
you forgot shipping! $565! so if you save $35 on shipping...then that's how you justify $900 for a used one

It's the same reason Gen 4 glocks can be sold for $800. It's a misconception of supply and demand, i think the vast majority of people don't understand/are scared of SSE so they would rather pay extra through PPT.

Now if SSE goes away in 6 months, and Peruta gets ironed out in our favor. Then yes, i can see P938's going for over $1,000

manywelps
06-06-2014, 10:25 PM
What places do the SSE and transfer for a P938 for $100?

I have not found many that can do a P938 besides the ones that have them in store and charge big time if its not from their inventory. Part of the reason why I still havent gotten one.Digital Instincts, nearby in Sunnyvale, CA

you forgot shipping! $565! so if you save $35 on shipping...then that's how you justify $900 for a used oneNo I didn't, I added shipping.

dyson
06-06-2014, 10:27 PM
Digital Instincts, nearby in Sunnyvale, CA



Sweet. thanks.

manywelps
06-06-2014, 10:31 PM
Sweet. thanks.I use him exclusively, he's awesome.

ruddogg
06-06-2014, 10:32 PM
Oc Armory has it in stock for $699 pretax & dros & sse.

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mark19
06-06-2014, 10:33 PM
While on the p938 topic, here's mine with newly installed aluminum grips and trigger guard laser. Originally came with the rubber grips. It's the sports13 model with the factory installed fiber optic front sight. Bought it from Riflegear about 4 weeks ago.

331189

LBDamned
06-06-2014, 10:40 PM
Why are people trying to sell used P938s for nearly $1000?

Just look at the For Sale: Handguns subforum.

They're $530 new... and tack on $90 for shipping and SSE vs PPT...

wtf guys?

I can't say it's impossible ('cause I got a smokin' deal, not much more than that - for an Extreme even)... but I'm curious where you can find one at $530...

Funny enough - at the time (well over a year ago), they weren't that popular - especially in CA... and (for a minute) considered selling it unused for $850... at the time I'm sure I would have got that... But I love the gun and wouldn't sell it... in fact there are at least three others I'd sell before it.

manywelps
06-06-2014, 10:42 PM
I can't say it's impossible ('cause I got a smokin' deal, not much more than that - for an Extreme even)... but I'm curious where you can find one at $530...

Funny enough - at the time (well over a year ago), they weren't that popular - especially in CA... and (for a minute) considered selling it unused for $850... at the time I'm sure I would have got that... But I love the gun and wouldn't sell it... in fact there are at least three others I'd sell before it.

I linked it earlier, here: http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?Keywords=P938&BuyNowOnly=1&Sort=4&Tab=2

LBDamned
06-06-2014, 10:51 PM
I linked it earlier, here: http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?Keywords=P938&BuyNowOnly=1&Sort=4&Tab=2

can you link to the direct bid?... that one went to a bunch of stuff...

Is it a "buy now" price?...

manywelps
06-06-2014, 10:58 PM
can you link to the direct bid?... that one went to a bunch of stuff...

Is it a "buy now" price?...

Yeah it's buy it now:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=420679973

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=420679547

asm777
06-06-2014, 11:06 PM
Wow. Prices have come down quite a bit!

LBDamned
06-06-2014, 11:20 PM
Yeah it's buy it now:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=420679973

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=420679547

great price, great gun! Even though I'm not a fan of the Nightmare (and only one mag), it's worth the buy (imo).

If the seller agrees not to include invoice with the shipment - you need to remember the price you paid (to tell you FFL for tax)... great price now might result in remembering a better price later ;)

Good find :)

Any new CCW holders considering a comfortable and quality 9mm... this is worth consideration... if you can find an Extreme at a decent price, even better...

LBDamned
06-06-2014, 11:27 PM
Wow. Prices have come down quite a bit!

it's been out a couple years now... as with all things, as time goes on, model gets cheaper... also, as with all things, there are different variations... most come with one mag (P938 mags aren't cheap)... color combos and grip variations fluctuate price too...

the nightmare is the cheaper of the offerings, but the base gun is the same and the GB links manywleps posted are a good deal (imo).

khw9mm
06-06-2014, 11:28 PM
I just got one from EBR Works. They're great little guns and he's got a few more in stock.

missiontrails
06-07-2014, 6:42 AM
Lol, well... why do people try to sell used:

CZ 75b @ $700
SP-01 @ $800
MK25 @ $1000
HK45 @ $1200

and the list goes on............ 938's are no different.

Sharp Shooter
06-07-2014, 8:47 AM
P938's will easily fetch $1000 after 1/1/15.

tbc
06-07-2014, 9:17 AM
Because sellers believe there are buyers out there paying for it.


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hikingwithguns
06-07-2014, 11:07 AM
For CCW, for the ppt aspect maybe? If the local sheriff doesn't allow SSE.

Apec
06-07-2014, 11:16 AM
I'd like one, but it'd be cool if Sig went with the traditional Colt shape/contours on the original Mustang/Gov.380 pistols. Kinda like what they're doing with their "traditional" series 1911's.

dachan
06-07-2014, 11:23 AM
Because sellers believe there are buyers out there paying for it.


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Exactly. The question to the OP is "why does it matter to you?" There seems to be nothing but upside to such a situation, especially if you are able to buy one for $530. You can go around all smug over how smart of a shopper you are. And be in possession of something that is worth (in some folk's mind) 2x what you paid.

ShooterStymie
06-07-2014, 11:46 AM
It's just supply and demand. Sig P938 has never been on the roster so there's probably not a whole lot of them around. I can think of several reasons why people pay higher than expected prices for certain guns:

1. They don't know about the SSE process
2. They don't have anyone local that can perform SSE on the gun they want - if I had to drive more than an hour to do SSE, I'd be willing to pay extra to offset the time and gas, keeping in mind you need to make the trip twice
3. They are in the middle of a 30-day wait (PPT doesn't factor into wait)
4. They think SSE is going away at the end of the year and they have more guns they want to get than there are months left in the year

Which ultimately points to what some others have suggested...that guns like the P938 could skyrocket in value after the end of the year. If the artificially limited supply today can drive price above market, think what's going to happen when the supply of new inventory is completely cut off.

Sigbird
06-07-2014, 12:02 PM
The same reason people try to sell the MK 25 for 1200-1300. People in Ca inflate the prices 200+ and they wonder why no one buys it after 3 months listed. The same reason why people think you need to SSE the MK25, because they don't have a clue. That's my answer for there high listing price.

Planetking
06-07-2014, 12:04 PM
If they weren't selling for close to that, the asking prices would come down.

rambutan316
06-07-2014, 1:36 PM
Those sellers are about a year late in the panic buying game

majtom94
06-07-2014, 1:44 PM
Those sellers are about a year late in the panic buying game


Waiting for next panic? :)


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manywelps
06-07-2014, 1:57 PM
If they weren't selling for close to that, the asking prices would come down.They're not. The threads are solid bumping.

chad allred
06-07-2014, 8:17 PM
First thing I bought when I moved to Colorado!was $900 with a nice iwb holster,the factory holster,2 mags and 2 boxes of defensive ammo.shoots like a target pistol btw...the 115 Corbon +p is a bit snappy.http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/08/butaqe6y.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/08/nyqe6amu.jpg

Murmur
06-08-2014, 3:28 PM
Those sellers are about a year late in the panic buying game

Ha that's true; they should just wait 7 months until SSE is gone.

Jimmybacon43
06-08-2014, 3:32 PM
It's free market stop complaining dur dur dur.

Cyc Wid It
06-08-2014, 9:32 PM
For CCW, for the ppt aspect maybe? If the local sheriff doesn't allow SSE.

You mean if they required CCW pistols be rostered?

Sheriff can't disallow SSE.

Whiskey_Tango
06-09-2014, 4:19 AM
Just got a scorpion p938 from Placer Tactical, they still have an Extreme for $740 (sse included).http://www.placertactical.com/product-p/si9389xtmblgram.htm

LBDamned
06-09-2014, 2:53 PM
You mean if they required CCW pistols be rostered?

Sheriff can't disallow SSE.

He probably means because of reports like this:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=933277

rm1911
06-09-2014, 10:32 PM
You asked about "trying" not selling. Big difference. Are people paying that? If so, or if not, it's how market work. Of course in kalifornia the markets are skewed because of the roster which creates an artificial shortage.

Again, trying vs selling. Huge difference. Anybody can am whatever they want. Whether they get it or not is a whole other issue.

andy standard
06-10-2014, 3:30 AM
I just got one from EBR Works. They're great little guns and he's got a few more in stock.


Same here. Good peoples. I recently picked up the two tone with the laser for $749 including SSE, what model did you get?


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mossy
06-10-2014, 3:41 AM
this is California and on calguns everyone thinks their gun is special, rare and worth the extra money they are asking remember that guy who wanted to sell his glock 19 for $1,000?

Ikazamay
06-10-2014, 1:10 PM
My local gun shop has at least 3 used ones for sale, I thought it shoots .380? ($550ish). Maybe I should pick one up before I move back to CA...

LBDamned
06-10-2014, 4:49 PM
My local gun shop has at least 3 used ones for sale, I thought it shoots .380? ($550ish). Maybe I should pick one up before I move back to CA...

P238 is .380... 938 (the one in this thread) in 9mm

bigcalidave
06-10-2014, 4:55 PM
There are like 28 different models, with prices ranging from $550-$900. 1000 is a lot, but people can ask whatever they want :) If people actually buy them at that price, they did good!

manywelps
06-11-2014, 8:14 PM
They're asking $900+ for the base models.

The extreme retails for $614 shipped and the SAS for a couple dollars more than that from my friendly online sig dealer.

sean5063
06-18-2014, 5:11 AM
They're asking $900+ for the base models.

The extreme retails for $614 shipped and the SAS for a couple dollars more than that from my friendly online sig dealer.
There are plenty of these threads, bottom line is: it's a free market, supply and demand will determine price.

real cost estimate based on your $614 extreme:
$614 shipped
+100 SSE & transfer charge ( that's if you can find it this cheap, most lgs's charge more)
+25 dros
+55 (tax you'll have to pay)
= $794

$900 is expensive, but definitely, not like a $1000 glock

klewan
06-18-2014, 9:10 AM
There are plenty of these threads, bottom line is: it's a free market, supply and demand will determine price.

real cost estimate based on your $614 extreme:
$614 shipped
+100 SSE & transfer charge ( that's if you can find it this cheap, most lgs's charge more)
+25 dros
+55 (tax you'll have to pay)
= $794

$900 is expensive, but definitely, not like a $1000 glock

You should of been the second post; then we wouldn't have to see all the pissing and moaning because handguns are expensive to buy.

manywelps
06-18-2014, 11:56 AM
There are plenty of these threads, bottom line is: it's a free market, supply and demand will determine price.

real cost estimate based on your $614 extreme:
$614 shipped
+100 SSE & transfer charge ( that's if you can find it this cheap, most lgs's charge more)
+25 dros
+55 (tax you'll have to pay)
= $794

$900 is expensive, but definitely, not like a $1000 glockThe extreme is not a base model.

Also local SSEs are $100 including DROS or less.

ilivwith4girls
06-18-2014, 8:03 PM
Ya, people can ask whatever they want for their guns, and we can call them out for being ridiculous and greedy; calling a spade a spade.

manywelps
07-06-2014, 5:54 PM
Here's a funny one: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=941536

$800 for an SSE only (no PPT)... like he can't use google...

Nrai2020
07-07-2014, 8:39 PM
Its an awesome pistol... if you ve got a ccw.. might as well spend a little more and get something good..if you truely do ccw you ll get your money's worth.

dachan
07-07-2014, 10:43 PM
Here's a funny one: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=941536

$800 for an SSE only (no PPT)... like he can't use google...

Don't get it, what's wrong with this WTS ad? Price isn't that out of line and won't do PPT for a legitimate reason. What should be googled?

static2126
07-07-2014, 10:48 PM
Don't get what's wrong with that ad either. There are so many complaints on pricing now, their property they can price however they want. Either it's too high and it sits forever or someone that has the means will buy it.

peter95
07-07-2014, 10:55 PM
Same reason why people pay $1700 for an Mc operator. Taking advantage of the supply and demand. Hard to come by some pistols and some are willing to pay for it.

xXRifleManXx
07-07-2014, 10:58 PM
Well I have to say you sure know how to crap... On a thread.
Move on ,maybe just pass up this chance to pay what you think Is too much for this gun.

With time the pain of this free market's slight against you will pass.

thorium
07-07-2014, 11:04 PM
Add a cup of CA gun laws
A splash of proposed gun control legislation (the "panic")
A pound of capitalism from the proverbial "you" the calgunner
A sprinkling of libertarian minded rules from the calguns.net board

And it all amounts to a classified board with the worst used price around

I wish fellow calgunnes would realize they are indirectly supporting the anti gun interests by asking on average 20-40 percent above gun blue book (ie free state) prices.

And I wish calguns put the informational and educational mission of calguns first and a libertarian viewpoint second, ie provided sticky post or other support to educate potential buyers in the marketplace forums on how to get the best balance of price, quality, and service. But to be fair... There is a board of directors and their decisions have gone through some form of reasonable corporate governance

thorium
07-07-2014, 11:06 PM
Ya, people can ask whatever they want for their guns, and we can call them out for being ridiculous and greedy; calling a spade a spade.

Per forum rules we CANNOT call them out... "Thread crapping"

kel-tec-innovations
07-07-2014, 11:13 PM
If the price is right buy it, if its ridiculous ignore it.

I was also looking for a P938, gave up on the high prices on used guns, got a brand new one at http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=904714