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OceanView
02-25-2014, 8:10 AM
I was curious if anyone had an opinion as to which is a better purchase?

ky2970
02-25-2014, 8:12 AM
Colt's 901's modularity is nice but personally, I'd just stick with an LMT MWS. Proven system and the quick barrel change of the LMT > 901 caliber change

Also:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_121/580942_Colt_901_caution.html

Wnick308
02-25-2014, 9:03 AM
I have the LMT and it kicks a**! The barrel swap is a nice feature but very front heavy.


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2zero9
02-25-2014, 9:06 AM
308s are usually heavier in general. Balance with a heavier stock.

CK_32
02-25-2014, 9:42 AM
Someone said the C word....



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crazychinaman
02-25-2014, 11:55 AM
I say the LMT.For the ease of changing barrells.I looked at the Colt.Was'nt really excited.

MrPlink
02-25-2014, 3:13 PM
The 901 is a neat idea but fundamentally I would imagine you want the rifle for .308 in which case the options the LMT offers smoke the Colt

NHP1127
02-25-2014, 4:00 PM
The LMT is certainly in more use and definitely well proven.

kalieracer
02-25-2014, 5:46 PM
LMT

kirkmichael223
02-25-2014, 5:54 PM
Just bought 308 18 inch bar. 1 in 10 twist what is a factory load it will like 100 to 300 yrd

OceanView
02-25-2014, 7:11 PM
Thanks Calguns for all the responses!

shooterfpga
02-25-2014, 7:15 PM
Ive had an lmt mwse and i loved it. However, dpms just came out with its gen ii 308 rifles and even though they cant swap barrels as quick i honestly think theyre the best on the market right now especially its modularity and lighter weight.

kalieracer
02-25-2014, 7:34 PM
yeah but they also are not proven . The MWS is a fielded weapon with several armies.

Ive had an lmt mwse and i loved it. However, dpms just came out with its gen ii 308 rifles and even though they cant swap barrels as quick i honestly think theyre the best on the market right now especially its modularity and lighter weight.

shooterfpga
02-25-2014, 8:09 PM
yeah but they also are not proven . The MWS is a fielded weapon with several armies.

I dont know who "proved" it other than it getting picked up as a contract weapon. it goes bang just like any other and had a redesign to the bolt just like any other company who has had to adjust fire with issues. if you want to spend the extra dough for a weapon that is a kac m110 clone, for less than a real one but cost more than other 308 ar rifles that has more features than lmt thats fine.

kalieracer
02-25-2014, 8:17 PM
I am saying the new DPMS is not a proven platform. As for the LMT it passed field trials in several countries so say what you will. As for the bolt, yes they come up with a better design and DPMS copied. KAC started using it too.

I dont know who "proved" it other than it getting picked up as a contract weapon. it goes bang just like any other and had a redesign to the bolt just like any other company who has had to adjust fire with issues. if you want to spend the extra dough for a weapon that is a kac m110 clone, for less than a real one but cost more than other 308 ar rifles that has more features than lmt thats fine.

NHP1127
02-26-2014, 11:43 AM
I dont know who "proved" it other than it getting picked up as a contract weapon. it goes bang just like any other and had a redesign to the bolt just like any other company who has had to adjust fire with issues. if you want to spend the extra dough for a weapon that is a kac m110 clone, for less than a real one but cost more than other 308 ar rifles that has more features than lmt thats fine.

Soooo.... beating out multiple platforms, being fielded by a top military power like the Brits and others, and multiple years of proven combat use is just the same as going "bang" like any other weapon? Okey dokey.

shooterfpga
02-26-2014, 11:58 AM
Soooo.... beating out multiple platforms, being fielded by a top military power like the Brits and others, and multiple years of proven combat use is just the same as going "bang" like any other weapon? Okey dokey.

Multiple years of combat use faired real well for those same weapons in 308 that used that same design as lmt. Oh yeah, wait no it didnt. They had multiple failures, down time and redesigns between sending them back to the armorer. I bought and ran my lmt mws way before it won its contract with the brits and way before popular consumption by civilians and while it was well designed they still had to fix the same issues that were griped about in the field that its predecessors had failed in time and time again. Its twin brother which uses the same chassis is on what generation now? The fifth or so? I understand they finally got fixed, but to say its been combat proven is not even close to the truth. Its more like its been combat failed and redesigned to finally be tested if its combat proven.

BigPimping
02-26-2014, 1:29 PM
Geez, can you go wrong either way.

nitroxdiver
02-26-2014, 2:10 PM
OP. Do you desire the ability to drop a 5.56 upper on your rifle? If so, then go with the colt and conversion kit. If not, personally, I'd go with the LMT. If you have the cash, also take a look at the HK MR762.


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NHP1127
02-26-2014, 2:29 PM
Multiple years of combat use faired real well for those same weapons in 308 that used that same design as lmt. Oh yeah, wait no it didnt. They had multiple failures, down time and redesigns between sending them back to the armorer. I bought and ran my lmt mws way before it won its contract with the brits and way before popular consumption by civilians and while it was well designed they still had to fix the same issues that were griped about in the field that its predecessors had failed in time and time again. Its twin brother which uses the same chassis is on what generation now? The fifth or so? I understand they finally got fixed, but to say its been combat proven is not even close to the truth. Its more like its been combat failed and redesigned to finally be tested if its combat proven.

So then it fixed and combat proven. And where does the DPMS Gen 2 fit in with no real world use?

shooterfpga
02-26-2014, 3:33 PM
So then it fixed and combat proven. And where does the DPMS Gen 2 fit in with no real world use?

The dpms gen ii comes in because they already have seen the multiple failures with lmt, kac, dpms gen i, larue obr, etc and have taken all those design flaws into account and customer suggestions which resulted in this new creation released not in 2010, 2006, or 1980, but at shot show 2014. When a new vehicle comes out do you compare it to a 57 chevy? Maybe, but the technology and upgrades are still something to appreciate.

Nate87
02-26-2014, 4:35 PM
You wont be disappointed with the LMT. You can set it up any way from a shorter barrel battle rifle to longer scoped precision rig. I've done anything from high volume, rapid, close shooting to making accuate hits beyond 1000 yards which makes it live up to it's name of a Modular Weapon System. Good luck with your purchase.

audiophil2
02-26-2014, 4:56 PM
Here are some pics I took of a 901 I just got from my distributor.
556 upper is Adams Arms carbine.

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm117/audiophil2/watermarked-DSCN1114_zps57db12dd.jpg (http://s294.photobucket.com/user/audiophil2/media/watermarked-DSCN1114_zps57db12dd.jpg.html)

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm117/audiophil2/watermarked-DSCN1110_zpscaf2e8c4.jpg (http://s294.photobucket.com/user/audiophil2/media/watermarked-DSCN1110_zpscaf2e8c4.jpg.html)

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm117/audiophil2/watermarked-DSCN1107_zps06873641.jpg (http://s294.photobucket.com/user/audiophil2/media/watermarked-DSCN1107_zps06873641.jpg.html)

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm117/audiophil2/watermarked-DSCN1105_zpscba33c8b.jpg (http://s294.photobucket.com/user/audiophil2/media/watermarked-DSCN1105_zpscba33c8b.jpg.html)

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm117/audiophil2/watermarked-DSCN1104_zpsdf486694.jpg (http://s294.photobucket.com/user/audiophil2/media/watermarked-DSCN1104_zpsdf486694.jpg.html)

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm117/audiophil2/watermarked-DSCN1103_zps07b835fe.jpg (http://s294.photobucket.com/user/audiophil2/media/watermarked-DSCN1103_zps07b835fe.jpg.html)

nitroxdiver
02-26-2014, 5:16 PM
Lookin good bud! The people I know that have bought them like them.


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MultiCaliber
02-26-2014, 7:09 PM
The 901 is a neat idea but fundamentally I would imagine you want the rifle for .308 in which case the options the LMT offers smoke the Colt

:eek:

Since this guy didn't say it, I'm gonna... SCAR 17!!

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NHP1127
02-27-2014, 10:14 AM
The dpms gen ii comes in because they already have seen the multiple failures with lmt, kac, dpms gen i, larue obr, etc and have taken all those design flaws into account and customer suggestions which resulted in this new creation released not in 2010, 2006, or 1980, but at shot show 2014. When a new vehicle comes out do you compare it to a 57 chevy? Maybe, but the technology and upgrades are still something to appreciate.

I don't disagree with new technology.... that said the "New" Chevy Volt came out with new technology and they burned up due to bad batteries....

We will see when the rubber meets the road.

CK_32
02-27-2014, 10:16 AM
You just compared electrical progression to mechanical engendering advancements.


That's like comparing water to fire lol

kongvu
02-27-2014, 4:47 PM
There is no wrong choice here.

IDK what else you have or are going to get but between the two if you could only have one AR style...It's a good option to get something that can swap AR15 and AR10 uppers and keep one lower you will be very familiar with.

If you can have more than one why not Both?

guitar-nut
02-27-2014, 6:03 PM
I really like the idea of the 901, but I'm just not sure if it would be worth the price tag. Plus, I don't know anyone who has personal experience with them.

2zero9
02-27-2014, 6:10 PM
Wellllll, the 901 will have a nice beveled mag well for the 223/556 :cool2:

NHP1127
02-28-2014, 7:15 AM
You just compared electrical progression to mechanical engendering advancements.


That's like comparing water to fire lol

It's about new production and unproven technology... uggh.

2zero9
02-28-2014, 1:59 PM
I have also been considering a .308 for some time. I do not know anything about these new platforms. In addition to the LMT and Colt mentioned in this thread. What about the SIG 716?

I did not know we could have any modern nice .308's here in CA. Until I saw this at mparms.com today and your thread

http://www.mparms.com/Sig-Sauer-716-Patrol-_p_183.html

Alot to learn young grasshopper. The search function will show you the light of truth! :oji: