Pistol expires in Jan 2014 "Soon to be Off Roster"

[Baer1911]

Here is the list sorted by expiration date

ITS MORE THAN JUST Rugers.

Damn Kimber Pro CDP II
Springfield XD9
Buckmark camper!!
CZ 75

and looking through the rest of the 2014 list makes me want to move outta california until they fix it ..

Smith & Wesson 60-14 Lady Smith SKU 162414 / Stainless Steel Revolver 2.12" .357 Magnum 1/10/2014
Smith & Wesson 910S SKU 104783 / Stainless Steel, Alloy Pistol 4" 9mm 1/13/2014
Smith & Wesson 410S SKU 104744 / Stainless Steel, Alloy Pistol 4" .40 S&W 1/14/2014
Smith & Wesson 457S SKU 104808 / Stainless Steel, Alloy Pistol 3.75" .45 ACP 1/14/2014
Smith & Wesson 908S SKU 103890 / Stainless Steel, Alloy Pistol 3.5" 9mm 1/14/2014
Smith & Wesson 40-1 (Nickel) SKU 150223 / Steel Revolver 1.87" .38 Spl 1/14/2014
Smith & Wesson 40-1 (Blued) SKU 150222 / Steel Revolver 1.87" .38 Spl 1/14/2014
Smith & Wesson 686-6 SSR SKU 178012 / Stainless Steel Revolver 4.12" .357 Mag 1/14/2014
Smith & Wesson 63-4 SKU 162450 / Stainless Steel Revolver 5" .22 LR 1/14/2014
Sturm, Ruger & Co. LC9-CF 03211 / Alloy; polymer Pistol 3.12" 9mm 1/16/2014
Sturm, Ruger & Co. LC9-LM 03206 / Alloy; polymer Pistol 3.12" 9mm 1/16/2014
Sturm, Ruger & Co. LC9-NRA 03209 / Alloy; polymer Pistol 3.12" 9mm 1/16/2014
Sturm, Ruger & Co. LC9-P 03205 / Alloy; polymer Pistol 3.12" 9mm 1/16/2014
Sturm, Ruger & Co. BSR9C-10-CT 03329 / Alloy Steel Slide; Poly Frame Pistol 3.5" 9mm 1/16/2014
Sturm, Ruger & Co. KSR9C-10-CT 03328 / Stainless Steel Pistol 3.5" 9mm 1/16/2014
Sturm, Ruger & Co. KSR9C-NRA 03325 / Stainless Steel Pistol 3.5" 9mm 1/16/2014
Smith & Wesson 945-1 (2-Tone) SKU 170300 / Stainless Steel Pistol 5" .45 ACP 1/16/2014
Smith & Wesson M&P 9C (Mag. Safety) SKU 109204 / Stainless Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.50" 9mm 1/16/2014
Smith & Wesson 4006 TSW Integral Rail SKU 150149 / Stainless Steel Pistol 4" .40 S&W 1/16/2014
Springfield Armory XD9301 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.08" 9mm 1/17/2014
Springfield Armory XD9302 / Polymer, Steel Pistol 4.08" .40 S&W 1/17/2014
Springfield Armory PX9804L / Alloy, Stainless Steel Pistol 3" .45 ACP 1/17/2014
Smith & Wesson SW990L SKU 120231 / Polymer, Stainless Steel Pistol 3.5" 9mm 1/18/2014
Smith & Wesson 22A-1 Gray Frame SKU 107412 / Alloy, Stainless Steel Pistol 5.5" .22LR 1/18/2014
Walther USA (Carl Walther) P99C QA WAP 90000 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.5" .40 S&W 1/18/2014
Kimber Ultra CDP II / Stainless Steel, Alum. Alloy Pistol 3" .45 ACP 1/18/2014
Kimber Compact CDP II / Stainless Steel, Alum. Alloy Pistol 4" .45 ACP 1/18/2014
Kimber Pro CDP II / Stainless Steel, Alum. Alloy Pistol 4" .45 ACP 1/18/2014
Kimber Custom II / Blue Steel Pistol 5" .45 ACP 1/18/2014
Kimber Gold Match II / Blue Steel Pistol 5" .45 ACP 1/18/2014
Kimber Stainless Gold Match II / Stainless Steel Pistol 5" .45 ACP 1/18/2014
Kimber Stainless II / Stainless Steel Pistol 5" .45 ACP 1/18/2014
Smith & Wesson 4046 TSW SKU 102957 / Stainless Steel Pistol 4" .40 S&W 1/19/2014
Springfield Armory XD9612 / Polymer, Steel Pistol 4" .45 ACP 1/23/2014
Springfield Armory XD9647 / Polymer, Steel Pistol 4" .45 ACP 1/23/2014
Springfield Armory XD9222 / Polymer, Steel Pistol 4.08" .40 S&W 1/23/2014
Springfield Armory XD9221 / Polymer, Steel Pistol 4.08 9mm 1/23/2014
Springfield Armory XD9121 / Polymer, Steel Pistol 4.08" 9mm 1/23/2014
Springfield Armory XD9122 / Polymer, Steel Pistol 4.08" .40 S&W 1/23/2014
Springfield Armory XD9622 / Polymer, Steel Pistol 5" .45 ACP 1/23/2014
Springfield Armory XD9131 / Polymer, Steel Pistol 5.01" 9mm 1/23/2014
Browning Buck Mark Camper Stnls UFX, Adj. Sights / Stainless Steel; Alloy Pistol 5.5" .22 LR 1/23/2014
Browning Buck Mark Camper UFX, Adj. Sights / Steel, Alloy Pistol 5.5" .22 LR 1/23/2014
Entreprise Arms Elite P500 / 4140 Steel Pistol 5" .45 Auto 1/23/2014
Entreprise Arms Medalist P500 / 4140 Steel Pistol 5" .45 Auto 1/23/2014
Entreprise Arms Tactical P500 / 4140 Steel Pistol 5" .45 Auto 1/23/2014
Browning Hi-Power MKIII RMEF CF 10 Cap. Fxd Sgts. / Steel Pistol 4.66" 9mm 1/25/2014
Browning Buck Mark MS Camper CF RMEF Adj Sight / Steel; Alloy Pistol 5.5" .22LR 1/26/2014
Smith & Wesson SW9VE (Black Slide) SKU 149116 / Polymer, Stainless Steel Pistol 4" 9mm 1/27/2014
Smith & Wesson 500 Hunter SKU 170231 / Stainless Steel Revolver 10.62" .500 S&W Magnum 1/29/2014
Kimber Custom CDP II / Stainless Steel, Alloy Pistol 5" .45 ACP 1/29/2014
Smith & Wesson 642LS SKU 103808 / Stainless Steel, Alloy Revolver 1.87" .38 Spl 1/30/2014
Smith & Wesson 342PD SKU 103816 / Alloy, Titanium, Stainless Steel Revolver 1.87" .38 Spl 1/30/2014
Smith & Wesson SW9E SKU 120018 / Polymer, Stainless Steel Pistol 4" 9mm 1/30/2014
Smith & Wesson SW9G SKU 120032 / Polymer, Stainless Steel Pistol 4" 9mm 1/30/2014
Smith & Wesson SW40VE SKU 120023 / Polymer, Stainless Steel Pistol 4" .40 S&W 1/30/2014
Smith & Wesson SW40G SKU 120035 / Polymer, Stainless Steel Pistol 4" .40 S&W 1/30/2014
Smith & Wesson SW40VE (Black Slide) SKU 120046 / Polymer, Stainless Steel Pistol 4" .40 S&W 1/31/2014
Smith & Wesson M&P 40c (Mag. Safety) SKU 109203 / Stainless Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.5" .40 S&W 1/31/2014
Phoenix Arms HP22A (Nickel) / Alloy Pistol 3" .22 LR 1/31/2014
Phoenix Arms HP25A (Blue) / Steel, Zinc Pistol 3" .25 ACP 1/31/2014
Phoenix Arms HP25A (Nickel) / Steel, Zinc Pistol 3" .25 ACP 1/31/2014
Phoenix Arms HP22A (Nickel) / Alloy Pistol 5" .22 LR 1/31/2014
Smith & Wesson M&P 45 (Black/Mag.& Thumb Safety) SKU 109006 / Stainless Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.5" .45 ACP 1/31/2014
Smith & Wesson M&P 45 (Mag. Safety) SKU 109206 / Stainless Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.5" .45 ACP 1/31/2014
Para USA (Para Ordnance) CWX79R / Steel, Alloy Pistol 3" 9mm 1/31/2014
Para USA (Para Ordnance) CWX79RL / Steel, Alloy Pistol 3" 9mm 1/31/2014
Para USA (Para Ordnance) CWX79RN / Steel, Alloy Pistol 3" 9mm 1/31/2014
Walther USA (Carl Walther) P22CA (Brushed Chrome) CAP 22012 / Polymer, Alloy, Steel Pistol 3.42" .22 LR 1/31/2014
Beretta PX4 Storm Type G / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4" .40 S&W 1/31/2014
Beretta 96G-SD / Stainless Steel, Steel, Alloy Pistol 5" .40 S&W 1/31/2014
CZ USA (Ceska Zbrojovka Fox) CZ 75 SP-01 01152 / Steel, Poly Pistol 4.7" 9mm 1/31/2014
CZ USA (Ceska Zbrojovka Fox) CZ 75 TS / Steel, Alloy, Poly Trigger Pistol 5.215" .40 S&W 1/31/2014
CZ USA (Ceska Zbrojovka Fox) CZ 75 TS / Steel, Alloy, Poly Trigger Pistol 5.215" 9mm 1/31/2014
Dan Wesson Commander Classic Bobtail / Stainless Steel Pistol 4.3" .45 ACP 1/31/2014
Dan Wesson PM7 (Stainless) / Stainless Steel Pistol 5" .45 ACP 1/31/2014
Sturm, Ruger & Co. KP45HMKIII / Stainless Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.5" .22 LR 1/31/2014

[Baer1911]

Wait, so if NO manufactures renew their pistols. We pretty much got all our Pistols BANNED by itself after 2014???

someone tell me this isnt true?

Thanks

[Kodemonkey]

This is typical. They are probably renewed, they just haven't been updated by the DOJ with the new date. Pretty sure that S&W isn't going to let the 686 drop from their offerings in CA.

Please don't incite panic.

[Baer1911]

This is typical. They are probably renewed, they just haven't been updated by the DOJ with the new date. Pretty sure that S&W isn't going to let the 686 drop from their offerings in CA.

Please don't incite panic.


Good to hear!!! yea, dont panic, because EVERY PANIC will only lead to price upgrade .... kinda sux ....

[tleeocinca]

And even if they do drop, there are plenty of FFL's that SSE so the roster really doesn't matter

[ap3572001]

Its no secret that in Ca:

1).Nice , used (our of production) handguns are getting harder and harder to find.

(Guns like a nice Series 70 Combat Commander or Government model , Pre lock 4 inch or shorter S&W revolvers, German Walther PPK/s and many more).

2). Many NEW model are just not available OR come to Ca in a modified condition . With LCI , magazine disconnect etc.

3). Many guns that were on the roster and DID NOT have to have LCI and magazine disconnect , are falling off the roster.


I am not trying to create panic , just stating simple facts.

[Cyc Wid It]

All they have to do is pay $200 to renew any models without significant changes. It's not complicated (or expensive). They will do so unless they have even less business sense than I give them credit for (not very much).

[hyeg35]

All they have to do is pay $200 to renew any models without significant changes. It's not complicated (or expensive). They will do so unless they have even less business sense than I give them credit for (not very much).

That's all Sig Sauer had to do but instead they let most of their pistols drop off the list and reintroduced "California" models.

[MUKAK]

that did it!!! time to buy a few more pistols

[OUTLAWZ]

This just makes no sense at all, What businesses says "No" to financial gain?

[Cyc Wid It]

That's all Sig Sauer had to do but instead they let most of their pistols drop off the list and reintroduced "California" models.

Sig is right there with Ruger and they added something new at least (they didn't ignore CA completely). It's a minor miracle that some of these companies even exist still (oh wait, big contracts to LEO/.gov). You'd think with their legions of lawyers they could navigate CA law a little bit more successfully than a bunch of hobbyists, but that's not the case either.

[rman]

can't rwally blame the manufacturers... well, i hate the LCIs and MDS.... would prefer them to fall of roster completely until we eventually have no available handguns


-Armand
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[Cyc Wid It]

Pay $200 or lose hundreds of thousands of dollars (on more popular models). Tough choice. Also, we CA gun owners tend to have long memories when it comes to companies that don't at the very least acknowledge this market.

[keenkeen]

What is up with these CONSTANT redundant roster threads over the last 6 weeks....

[dyson]

think fools are addicted to the urgency of the past year, can't just relax and let be, everything has to be a panic.

[riderr]

Pay $200 or lose hundreds of thousands of dollars (on more popular models). Tough choice. Also, we CA gun owners tend to have long memories when it comes to companies that don't at the very least acknowledge this market.

Do you mean the companies supporting the roster and paying renewal fees or the companies fighting the roster and helping to bring it down?

[Cyc Wid It]

You can still allow normal people to buy guns while helping to fight the roster. The two aren't mutually exclusive. If you run a company and need to make money, you probably want to be selling as many guns as you can in CA.

[riderr]

You can still allow normal people to buy guns while helping to fight the roster. The two aren't mutually exclusive. If you run a company and need to make money, you probably want to be selling as many guns as you can in CA.

Tell me how it's possible. The manufacturer can either continue renewing the guns without any possibility to improve anything in the design or to make a stance and say "f...ck it". The more guns fall off the roster, the easier it would be to defeat the California law makers' point that roster has enough guns to choose from.

I am not even saying that no new models could be added due to microstamping requirement. The only way to get the CA market back is to defeat the roster.

[tincankilla]

think fools are addicted to the urgency of the past year, can't just relax and let be, everything has to be a panic.

^^^bingo^^^

or they are FFLs/retailers who want to keep the panic going. that cow ain't gonna milk itself.

[rman]

Do you mean the companies supporting the roster and paying renewal fees or the companies fighting the roster and helping to bring it down?

my point exactly. let the roster get devastatingly ridiculous, will be easier to fight it


-Armand
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[AregularGuy]

Tell me how it's possible. The manufacturer can either continue renewing the guns without any possibility to improve anything in the design or to make a stance and say "f...ck it". The more guns fall off the roster, the easier it would be to defeat the California law makers' point that roster has enough guns to choose from.

I am not even saying that no new models could be added due to microstamping requirement. The only way to get the CA market back is to defeat the roster.

Exactly! As painful as it might be to think there would be no "not unsafe" pistols to buy, and the gun shops that would suffer, that is our ticket out of LCI, MDS, and microstamping Hell! What happens when Glock comes out with gen 5 models? Will they still make gen 3 just for CA? Same with all other manufacturers and new versions/models. It would likely cost more to keep old models in production just for CA than to let them fall off. Worse yet, our stupidity is likely to spread to other states, or we may absorb the most asinine laws of our counterparts as we vie for top honors in the race toward firearm law obfuscation and discombobulation. "Confusticate and bebother these [lawmakers]!"

[Cyc Wid It]

If you're counting on us defeating the roster by having no guns on the roster then I hope you already own all the handguns you ever want to own. Cutting off the nose to spite the face so to speak...

[keenkeen]

If you're counting on us defeating the roster by having no guns on the roster then I hope you already own all the handguns you ever want to own. Cutting off the nose to spite the face so to speak...

You said it Cyc...

The "I can't wait until all handguns are off roster..'cause then we will really be able to show 'em" pipe-dreams is one of the dumbest things I have seen on Calguns for a long time.

[AregularGuy]

No guns on roster = effective ban by default. Didn't work for Chicago. I don't think it will fly here. That was just one city. This would be an entire state. Certainly wouldn't happen overnight and would create a hardship for a lot of folks but what's the alternative? just my 2 cents.

Edit: Oh, I don't own all the handguns I want since they are not on the roster. We aren't getting any new models until science fiction becomes reality and we get microstamping pistols. But who wants to own those anyway?

[riderr]

If you're counting on us defeating the roster by having no guns on the roster then I hope you already own all the handguns you ever want to own. Cutting off the nose to spite the face so to speak...

Do you have a better strategy? Like, voting out the anti-gun Dems looks more feasible?

[rman]

If you're counting on us defeating the roster by having no guns on the roster then I hope you already own all the handguns you ever want to own. Cutting off the nose to spite the face so to speak...
just about :)

wouldn't mind getting a s&w 627 or 629. just not sure which one i like better.


-Armand
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[Raspy]

What is SSE ?

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[Bsandoc40]

I have a "wait & see" with anything to do with the CA roster. I rather not have any models drop from the roster but, then again, what could one do if the manufacture doesn't renew a specific model?

In the end, we have to suffer thru additional obstacles because of the state we live in... California... :mad:

[Shanghai Dan]

You can still allow normal people to buy guns while helping to fight the roster. The two aren't mutually exclusive. If you run a company and need to make money, you probably want to be selling as many guns as you can in CA.
Only if you have inventory unsold in other States; if you're running your factory at capacity and cannot meet full demand in the other 49 States, suddenly screwing around with CA and the rules and the roster doesn't look like such a good idea...

And you can only really continue to sell "old" models; make any substantive change and you'll need to add a lot of CA-only stuff (like loaded indicators, reduced capacity magazines, and now microstamping) to sell your upgraded firearm. Makes it hard to justify bringing newer models out to CA - and that is always a concern when you're looking at production capacity. Do you want to keep turning out old models, or the newest stuff that garners more covers on magazines, websites, and trade show exposure?

[dyson]

What is SSE ?

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