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s2k1
11-12-2013, 6:32 AM
Thinking of a 7.62x54R for cheap plinking, can't decide between a VEPR or Mosin. Very different animals, I know. The VEPR probably doesn't even justify itself in ammo savings, but thought it would be cool. Thoughts?

Kilber
11-12-2013, 7:05 AM
I really like that VEPR and was thinking of getting one myself. Being able to sling that mosin bullet semi auto is very enticing, plus the price is right on the surplus...

gwgn02
11-12-2013, 7:13 AM
Thinking of a 7.62x54R for cheap plinking, can't decide between a VEPR or Mosin. Very different animals, I know. The VEPR probably doesn't even justify itself in ammo savings, but thought it would be cool. Thoughts?

The VEPR justifies itself even if ammo was 60 cents a round. You should get one and find out how great a platform it is. Everyone should have a Mosin or few too....but yeah...VEPR is just in its own category...badass catagory.

marksmandowntown
11-12-2013, 7:14 AM
The VEPR justifies itself even if ammo was 60 cents a round. You should get one and find out how great a platform it is. Everyone should have a Mosin or few too....but yeah...VEPR is just in its own category...badass catagory.

This.

Gutz
11-12-2013, 7:15 AM
Get a Mosin first. Then a Vepr...

atolax25
11-12-2013, 7:18 AM
It's all personal preference. I think the veprs are justifiable. But I agree with Gutz. Go with a Mosin first (they're cheap anyway) then get the Vepr if you really want one.

someR1
11-12-2013, 7:18 AM
two very different guns lol. If you can afford both, get them both !

Calplinker
11-12-2013, 8:00 AM
I really like 7.62X54 semi auto's. Much easier on the shoulder than a Mosin when shooting off a bench. I have a PSL, VEPR and SVT and each are different. The PSL is the most accurate at around 2 MOA. The VEPR groups are at least twice that, so I'm gonna experiment with some heavier ball ammo to see if it likes that any better.

The SVT is just an awesome gun. I can't even imagine it in it's full auto version as it isn't a very heavily built gun. It's not heavy, so I bet it bucked around something awful.

If I could only keep one of the three, it would definitely be a tough choice between the PSL and SVT. In the end, I'd probably keep the PSL.

someR1
11-12-2013, 8:05 AM
god i would love to have a SVT

Echidin
11-12-2013, 8:11 AM
I would be hard pressed to find anything I regret about the VEPR platform, with the exception of waiting so long to get one. It's a solid rifle.

s2k1
11-12-2013, 8:17 AM
thanks for the thoughts. anyone know of the best place or lowest price to get a vepr shipped to ca?

atolax25
11-12-2013, 8:22 AM
Atlantic might have a few still lying around. I'm sure they'll be on here to post a couple pics soon.

454kahuna
11-12-2013, 11:26 AM
Picked one up from arms of america. They are expecting some in 23 in barrel any day. They have both wood furniture and synthetic furniture listed on website. The tactical one with synthetic furniture comes with the Tapco g2 trigger group.

TheExiled
11-12-2013, 11:51 AM
If you can afford the VEPR, you can afford a VEPR and a Mosin

s2k1
11-12-2013, 12:03 PM
So is the tactical version with synthetic furniture come from the factory with tapco g2? I'd like to understand what my options would be from the factory.

SNCaliber
11-12-2013, 12:58 PM
VEPRs are awesome, I would go with that if you can afford it but mosins are fun and easy to shoot as well

sean michael
11-12-2013, 1:00 PM
Get both but more importantly get the ammo before it dries up. SG Ammo are my guys but you can get it elsewhere too. Especially when they offer free shipping. SG Ammo has the best shipping rates without being free. About $25 for a heavy crate. This is a good site to find good deals on ammo. http://gun-deals.com/ammo Put in your zip code and make sure you filter for lowest cost per round shipped. Good luck and welcome to the 54r addiction.

Calplinker
11-12-2013, 1:01 PM
So is the tactical version with synthetic furniture come from the factory with tapco g2? I'd like to understand what my options would be from the factory.

Yes, the one from Atlantic has the Tapco G2 trigger installed. Not a bad trigger. That's the rifle I have that is at best a 3-4 MOA gun so far. Having said that, I've only tested it with one type of surplus ammo, so the jury is still out. It may do better with heavy ball or quality ammo. The PSL shot much tighter groups with the same, 147 grain spam can surplus stuff.

Cadre
11-12-2013, 1:18 PM
vepr.

Nrai2020
11-12-2013, 4:12 PM
I have VEPR in 16.5 .. I would love to get one in 20 or 23 inches..

grnt
11-12-2013, 4:16 PM
EAA use to sell a single shot rifle in this caliber. made by Baikal. then Remington import the same style of rifle. wish I bought one of these back in the days. nothing like a rifle with no sticky bolt syndrome that can shoot cheap ammo

robnletti
11-12-2013, 4:20 PM
If you can afford the VEPR, you can afford a VEPR and a Mosin

I agree, just get both!

454kahuna
11-12-2013, 8:16 PM
So is the tactical version with synthetic furniture come from the factory with tapco g2? I'd like to understand what my options would be from the factory.

It also has a flash hider a hogue grip and a quad rail hand guard. It really comes down to the hand guard. If u don't like it, it's better that u add the upgrades yourself. The only thing I didn't like on the "tactical vepr" is the Warsaw length ak stock, but I had a NATO length, going to try to make that work. If u plan to put a scope on it the Warsaw buttock is to short, for me.

autopro
11-12-2013, 9:06 PM
I just got my Vepr from AF a month ago. It does not like the light ball surplus ammo as far as accuracy goes 5-6" groups at 100 yards and I was very disappointed. Tried some PPU 182 grain heavy ball instant 2". Received my POSP 8x42 and mount from Kalinka today. Impossible to use with original stock, to short and no check weld at all. Threw on a Tapco stock with a snap on check riser I had laying around should work for now but not the final solution. I guess I will just have buy a Mosin to use up the 2 crates of surplus ammo I have.

Cadre
11-12-2013, 9:37 PM
here you go

http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/a458/seronian/DSC_0023_zpsb0042943.jpg (http://s1037.photobucket.com/user/seronian/media/DSC_0023_zpsb0042943.jpg.html)

atolax25
11-12-2013, 9:49 PM
That's one pretty lookin' gun you got there, Cadre. Where'd you get that stock from?

Cadre
11-12-2013, 10:59 PM
That's one pretty lookin' gun you got there, Cadre. Where'd you get that stock from?

rhineland arms. but do check out ironwood design IMHO its a better product.

jhj32883
11-12-2013, 11:11 PM
I have a question about 7.62x54r surplus ammo. It's all magnetic so, using it at an indoor range around me is a no-go. I also heard that it's either bi-metal or steel tip, which makes it a potential fire hazard which makes it a no-go at many outdoor ranges. I also heard that this makes it a no-go on BLM land. Can someone clarify if it's legal for me to shoot it on BLM land near San Diego?

r1ghtw1ng
11-12-2013, 11:58 PM
I had my finger literally on the trigger to buy an x54r VEPR if SB374 went into effect. That gun is still on my short list, but I have some time.

Atlantic Firearms.com
11-13-2013, 2:30 AM
FYI We expect more Vepr 762 x 54R base rifles with Russian wood stock sets in early next week we will also see some other models in 2-3 weeks .






http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/images/stories/virtuemart/product/VEPR54R.jpg

s2k1
11-13-2013, 5:35 AM
Are these factory configs, or were they modified? Is there somewhere that shows the different configurations?

atolax25
11-13-2013, 7:26 AM
What Atlantic has pictured is the factory configuration with the thumbhole stock and wood fore end. Anything else is aftermarket.

omnitravis
11-13-2013, 7:32 AM
Should I just slap some grip wrap on the polymer/get a brake, or get an ironwood and leave it maglocked?
What do you guys think? Anyone have a VEPR/SVD/PSL that is gripwrapped I can look at?
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/images/stories/virtuemart/product/54rtacdrag.jpg
^ I got one of these pretty ladies.

jhj32883
11-22-2013, 12:31 AM
I have a question about 7.62x54r surplus ammo. It's all magnetic so, using it at an indoor range around me is a no-go. I also heard that it's either bi-metal or steel tip, which makes it a potential fire hazard which makes it a no-go at many outdoor ranges. I also heard that this makes it a no-go on BLM land. Can someone clarify if it's legal for me to shoot it on BLM land near San Diego?

*crickets*

Anyone?

BTW, Atlantic Firearms has the 23" Vepr 7.62x54r back in stock

sl0re10
11-22-2013, 5:34 AM
*crickets*

Anyone?

BTW, Atlantic Firearms has the 23" Vepr 7.62x54r back in stock

I go a bit above the SD area and they don't want steel core.

I bought a mosin the other day; I was going to go with non surplus so I can take it to BLM.

I also have a 223 vepr and love it... very easy to break down and work on also.

Capybara
11-22-2013, 5:39 AM
With Mosins as cheap as $99.00, no excuse not to get both.

r1ghtw1ng
11-22-2013, 12:04 PM
After shooting 100 rounds out of my Mosin yesterday, I got the VEPR itch bad. I really want a 16.5" barrel though. Not too keen on the 23".

jhj32883
11-22-2013, 1:20 PM
I go a bit above the SD area and they don't want steel core.

I bought a mosin the other day; I was going to go with non surplus so I can take it to BLM.

I also have a 223 vepr and love it... very easy to break down and work on also.

Dirt cheap surplus is a major reason I want it.

What's the non surplus costing these day?

sl0re10
11-22-2013, 7:02 PM
Dirt cheap surplus is a major reason I want it.

What's the non surplus costing these day?

72-85 cents per round for the good stuff. Prvi Partizan; seems to be the most accurate... at least for mosin owners.

I've read on wikipedia the old east bloc countries are still making spam can / "surplus" ammo to sell us. Someone needs to pass on we like cheap ammo; not necessarily steel core cheap ammo...

AKSOG
11-22-2013, 7:27 PM
Is there a place in social with a good mosin selection?

jdouglas
11-22-2013, 7:38 PM
Is there a place in social with a good mosin selection?

Big 5 is where most people get them. Turners will sometimes have them too. $140-170 seems to be the new sale price. You probably won't be able to pick and choose, but really, all Mosins work, and most are decent shooters regardless of rarity/year/factory.

For the OP, GET BOTH! :D The VEPR is a great rifle, and everybody needs at least one Mosin (they're still fairly cheap, so you can't say no).

CK_32
11-22-2013, 7:44 PM
Mosin is a mosin. Almost a must have rifle in every collection.


Even tho I still feel like I haven't't hit **** with my cousins any time I've shot it lol

MrPlink
11-22-2013, 8:16 PM
So a Finnish Mosin is the same as a 91-30 PU or a Chinese Type53?
I learn so much here

Steve_In_29
11-22-2013, 9:58 PM
Since you are considering a bolt gun you might want to look into getting a Finnish Mosin. My friend gets MOA out of his with mil-surp ammo and even tighter groups with his handloads.

Steve_In_29
11-22-2013, 10:06 PM
So a Finnish Mosin is the same as a 91-30 PU or a Chinese Type53?
I learn so much here
Finnish Mosins are built on 1891 receivers that have among other things been re-barreled with a heavier/shorter barrel, new sights added and have a different stock.

viper37
11-23-2013, 6:22 AM
PSL if you can get a good price:
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee71/phschallenger/IMAG0062_zps0b0635f0.jpg (http://s229.photobucket.com/user/phschallenger/media/IMAG0062_zps0b0635f0.jpg.html)

If not VEPR. 7.62x54r is a very fun plinking round, especially in a semi automatic!