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semperfidelis354
08-19-2013, 10:38 PM
Just picked one up. I've wanted one of theses for a while now.

https://www.apexgunparts.com/product_info.php/products_id/3694

https://www.apexgunparts.com/product_info.php/products_id/3695

https://www.apexgunparts.com/product_info.php/products_id/3696

Didn't see n e one else post this recently... maybe I'm just waaaaay behind the times. But if not I thought I'd let ppl know.

N e one thinking of putting one of these together?

xsefan
08-20-2013, 12:40 AM
Just got my semi auto tube! Will have it done in a few weeks eks just need a barrel now

milw50717
08-21-2013, 11:53 AM
Pretty. Tempted by a Mk V kit ......

OldGeek
08-21-2013, 12:21 PM
So where do you get a barrel and receiver tube and how much do they cost?

SOAR79
08-21-2013, 12:58 PM
Just got my semi auto tube! Will have it done in a few weeks eks just need a barrel now

let us know how it comes out!

Jayruta
08-21-2013, 2:13 PM
I'm interested in doing one of these. But I'm not confident in doing one by myself. I need bplvr to walk me thru one of these in san diego. Im gonna buy 1 of each.

calaveras
08-21-2013, 7:35 PM
I'm interested in doing one of these. But I'm not confident in doing one by myself. I need bplvr to walk me thru one of these in san diego. Im gonna buy 1 of each.

Here's a tutorial written with help from bplvr (for a MKIII):

part one (http://www.humanevents.com/2012/06/19/sten-nation/)

part two (http://www.humanevents.com/2012/08/07/do-it-yourself-sten-part-ii/)

I'm really interested in doing one too. Especially since you can easily make them featureless!

starchiefus
08-21-2013, 7:51 PM
Here's another good build article for the mkIII....

http://www.webshooters.org/diy_sten_build.htm

johnyreb
08-21-2013, 11:11 PM
IO tubes/kits are good to go.
I had a blast building mine.

klewan
08-22-2013, 9:13 AM
http://aa-ok.com/sten-gun-parts/sten-spare-parts.html

semperfidelis354
08-23-2013, 2:20 AM
Ill probably buy my tube/barrel/bolt stuff from I/O inc. they have everything there. but I want to do a faux silencer on mine, like the special forces version so I can hide most of the barrel. hopefully to OAL will be sufficient.

http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/images/uploads/sten%20silenced/sten-silc-024379_9.jpg

MadRiverArms
08-23-2013, 8:41 AM
It's Indianapolis Ordnance not I.O. Inc.

http://www.indianapolisordnance.com/

And yes their parts are really good.

Jayruta
08-25-2013, 11:14 PM
Ordered a mk2, 3, 5 from apex. Should be a fun build. Thanks for the webshooters link. Lots of good information on what and how to demill stuff.

saki302
08-26-2013, 1:34 AM
Use the Indianapolis Ordnance semi kit- it's the only one that works right.

You want a bit of a funnel shape for the feed ramp too so it can feed the bullets smoothly, and you'll probably want to polish or smoothen up the bolt face as well.

APEXgunparts
08-30-2013, 11:21 PM
APEX is having a Labor Day Sale on STEN part sets, one of each model, MK2 MK3 & MK5.

https://www.apexgunparts.com/product_info.php/products_id/1453

https://www.apexgunparts.com/images/PartsKit/STEN_MK2_Parts_kit_RZ.jpg

https://www.apexgunparts.com/images/PartsKit/STEN_MKIII_Parts_kit_RZ.jpg

https://www.apexgunparts.com/images/PartsKit/STEN_MK5_Parts_kit_RZ.jpg

LABOR DAY SALE PRICE $325!!

Rooftop Voter
08-31-2013, 12:11 AM
Can the mk5 be built utilizing the MK3 build parts?

Simply115
08-31-2013, 12:24 AM
Can the mk5 be built utilizing the MK3 build parts?

No, it's more similar to the MK2.

ar15barrels
08-31-2013, 1:29 AM
Can the mk5 be built utilizing the MK3 build parts?

No.
If you want a Mk5, just buy the Mk5 parts kits while they have them...

Jayruta
08-31-2013, 6:28 AM
Anyone have a loop stock I wanna get another mk and slap a looo stock on there.

APEXgunparts
08-31-2013, 9:53 AM
Anyone have a loop stock I wanna get another mk and slap a looo stock on there.

APEX has loop stocks.
When I have a chance I have STEN parts to get posted on the web site, stocks are in that mix.
One delay, my advertising guy "lost" about 150 images in his APPLE workstation!
We have tech support in next week to recover them.

Richard

Jayruta
08-31-2013, 4:18 PM
APEX has loop stocks.
When I have a chance I have STEN parts to get posted on the web site, stocks are in that mix.
One delay, my advertising guy "lost" about 150 images in his APPLE workstation!
We have tech support in next week to recover them.

Richard

Richard if I call you and place an order over phone can I order a mk3 kit with a loop stock? If so how much?

E Michael
08-31-2013, 4:56 PM
Tag

Rooftop Voter
08-31-2013, 7:47 PM
No.
If you want a Mk5, just buy the Mk5 parts kits while they have them...

No I meant the receiver & barrel parts. Are all 3 models relatively compatible as far as building them up?

APEXgunparts
08-31-2013, 11:30 PM
Richard if I call you and place an order over phone can I order a mk3 kit with a loop stock? If so how much?

Your question about STEN loop stocks reminded me that we have them.
When I initially viewed the STEN part set shipment I selected the "T" stocks as they were what I saw the most of.
Until I get the listings up you can ask for the loop stock in the "comment" section of the invoice or call the sales office.
The Sales Office will be open again on Tuesday.
Until I discuss this matter with Jeff I am unsure if there will be an added cost for the STEN Loop Stock.

As an added note, I had a customer ask if the loop stock will fit a STEN MK5, and the answer is yes.

Richard

ar15barrels
09-01-2013, 2:04 AM
No I meant the receiver & barrel parts. Are all 3 models relatively compatible as far as building them up?

Bolts are likely the same.
The rear half of the guns are also real similar.
The mk2 & mk5 seem similar in how the magazine tower attached over the main receiver tube and in how the barrel nut holds the barrel in place.
The mk3 receiver is longer and the barrel is retained differently.
I believe that the mk3 magazine feed tower is welded directly to the receiver tube so its not possible to fold the gun flat for storage.

2DoorImpala
09-01-2013, 7:39 PM
Will these work?

http://stenparts.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5&products_id=5

APEXgunparts
09-01-2013, 9:32 PM
About the original full-auto bolts in the STEN's.
The bolts used in the MK2 & MK3 will not work in the MK5 SMG.
However, the bolt for MK5 will work in MK2 & MK3 SMG's.

The MK5 has its fire control parts moved forward.
That is how they get the grip in.
Also, the stamped steel cover for the MK5 fire control parts is shorter than is used on the MK2 & MK3.

Richard

nismobishi
09-06-2013, 4:28 PM
Sooooooo, has anyone finished theirs yet? I have a mk3 on the way!

ar15barrels
09-06-2013, 9:43 PM
Sooooooo, has anyone finished theirs yet? I have a mk3 on the way!

These things take TIME...

kcstott
09-06-2013, 9:49 PM
I wonder how hard it would be to convert to 45ACP then I'd be interested

ar15barrels
09-06-2013, 10:00 PM
I wonder how hard it would be to convert to 45ACP then I'd be interested

There is no feedramp besides what you machine into the back of the barrel.
The kits don't come with barrels so you have to make a barrel anyways...

The sten mags put the cartridge most of the way aligned with the chamber as the cartridge is pushed out of the magazine.
I believe that sten mag will fit 45acp with slight work, mostly opening up the lips.
At that point, it's really just a matter of making a proper bolt with the extractor moved out the appropriate amount and the bolt face opened up.
You could likely do that by simply making a different extractor.

kcstott
09-06-2013, 10:41 PM
There is no feedramp besides what you machine into the back of the barrel.
The kits don't come with barrels so you have to make a barrel anyways...

The sten mags put the cartridge most of the way aligned with the chamber as the cartridge is pushed out of the magazine.
I believe that sten mag will fit 45acp with slight work, mostly opening up the lips.
At that point, it's really just a matter of making a proper bolt with the extractor moved out the appropriate amount and the bolt face opened up.
You could likely do that by simply making a different extractor.

I was think there would need to be a lot more weight added to the bolt

ar15barrels
09-06-2013, 10:45 PM
I was think there would need to be a lot more weight added to the bolt

Maybe so.
No problem, just make the bolt heavier and slightly extend the receiver tube to accommodate the extra length.
If you are going to make your own bolt for compliance reasons, it's no problem to re-design it to fit the 45.

kcstott
09-07-2013, 6:48 AM
See now you have me thinking of another project. Randall you are an evil man :43::43:

APEXgunparts
09-07-2013, 5:31 PM
I think a .40 or .45 caliber STEN would be a very neat project to see.
When we first got the L2A3 Sterling kits up some interesting guns were made from them too.

Richard

ar15barrels
09-07-2013, 7:04 PM
See now you have me thinking of another project. Randall you are an evil man :43::43:

If you are re-designing the gun anyways, design it to work with greasegun mags...
It can't be too hard to fabricate a feed tower to fit greasegun mags.

kcstott
09-07-2013, 8:19 PM
If you are re-designing the gun anyways, design it to work with greasegun mags...
It can't be too hard to fabricate a feed tower to fit greasegun mags.

Yep. I'm going to see about funding

MadRiverArms
09-07-2013, 10:10 PM
Sterling mags would be better if you could get them to feed. Another option that the Chinese used was to convert the Stens to 7.62x25 and use PPS-43 magazines.

MadRiverArms
09-07-2013, 10:13 PM
Maybe so.
No problem, just make the bolt heavier and slightly extend the receiver tube to accommodate the extra length.
If you are going to make your own bolt for compliance reasons, it's no problem to re-design it to fit the 45.

Also if you look into the AR15 FCG builds to will see that they use a new bolt. As for weight without adding additional length you could probably slug the bolt with a Tungsten-Carbide weight and/or a different spring rate.

dmceuend
09-14-2013, 8:34 PM
BTT

bmacpolo
10-06-2013, 3:15 PM
I have just finished de milling all my sten mk3 parts and have got all my us parts from I/O. Does anyone in the San Diego area have experience building these. I don't have a tig welder and from what I know that's what you need.

REDHORSE
10-06-2013, 3:43 PM
Ordered a Mk2 kit, thanks for the heads up.

My STEN Mk3 build:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKBZ3sSvY3E

nismobishi
10-07-2013, 12:20 PM
Damn. I.o. is out of semi build kits. I got my barrel coming though. Any other sources for the mk3 build kit?

MadRiverArms
10-07-2013, 12:43 PM
IO is pretty much the only game in town if you want a trouble free build. I'm sure he will have them soon.

nismobishi
11-23-2013, 5:16 PM
Finally ordered the plain vertical feed tube and vertical feed build kit for my t-stock mark 3 kit. Im gonna be doing a german mp3008 replica with proper mp3008 front sight and sling loop on mag well. Gonna cerakote it matte black. It should look historically accurate in about 2 weeks from now! (Well, historically accurate accept for the cerakote lol).

Kiwi
11-23-2013, 5:32 PM
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o764/Kiwicustoms/Sten/003_zpsb43044ad.jpg

This is the STEN MKIIs that I produce. I fabricate the front end which wraps around the 16 inch barrel. The barrel is permanently installed into the tube so it becomes one part. I use the Indianapolis Ord. approved semi design and once tuned corrected runs like a champ. The mag has a block welded in to limit capacity to 10 rounds. Fun gun when its all done.

nismobishi
11-23-2013, 6:03 PM
That thing is sweet!

redcliff
11-23-2013, 7:43 PM
Anyone have a good source for Sten magazine rebuild kits?

Mongoos913
11-23-2013, 8:15 PM
Cool

nismobishi
11-23-2013, 10:20 PM
Anyone have a good source for Sten magazine rebuild kits?

Just ordered some from usmachinegun.com they are 35 each in the masterpiece arms section and the sten section. They are cali friendly.

APEXgunparts
11-24-2013, 2:57 PM
For anyone needing just pieces, I have been listing all the STEN parts separately.
I have finished up with the MARK 5 and still have a bit more work to do with the MK II & MKIII parts.
Here is the link to the STEN category, just click on the model you need at the top of the page:

https://www.apexgunparts.com/index.php/cPath/96

Richard

VIctor P
11-24-2013, 3:07 PM
Ok lets see if I can post this pict. I don't have a computer this is done with my phone. This is my MK 2 built using a dremel, drill press and files. I went with the IO semi build kit. All thats left is to weld it up. Oh ya I still need to learn how to weld.
http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac105/332vic/8EDE1826-79F0-488E-9FAE-CE9F8A656525-11858-00000D4307BE75CF_zpsb45e0c77.jpg

VIctor P
11-24-2013, 3:10 PM
Well doesn't look like it worked lets try this one. http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac105/332vic/8EDE1826-79F0-488E-9FAE-CE9F8A656525-11858-00000D4307BE75CF_zpsb45e0c77.jpg

marksmandowntown
11-24-2013, 8:43 PM
Thanks for sharing. It looks great. Grats.

nismobishi
12-03-2013, 8:29 PM
Finished my mp3008 clone. I just used the regular style front sight insted of the mp3008 style but i think it looks good. I welded a washer into the hole on the grip so its too small to fit a thumb into. Cerakote graphite black.

http://s18.postimg.org/c0l1n75yd/20131203_181335.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/c0l1n75yd/)

http://s18.postimg.org/7q6drm0v9/20131203_181411.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/7q6drm0v9/)

http://s14.postimg.org/esrf8zbxp/20131203_181354.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/esrf8zbxp/)

http://s14.postimg.org/5ifb5g17x/20131203_181402.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/5ifb5g17x/)